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2015-16 Performances

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5.7 Season Average Rating
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Big Andy said:
The thing that sticks out about Schneiderlin is that he seems reluctant to go forwards, even to pass it forwards...he's always passing it sideways or backwards...
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I'm putting that down to LVG, as he wasn't shy about passing forward etc at Southampton
 
Bwuk said:
Tactics. If you looked at recent matches, regardless of the midfield two combo it's the same.

Morgan is fine playing a bit further afield. He did it for Southampton with big Victor Wanyama holding.
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Yeah, he was great as a box-to-box midfielder for them last year, and I'd love to see him play like that for us. Van Gaal seems to prefer him as an out-and-out DM, though, so I'm not holding my breath.
 
Passing forward is not really a problem. The problem is more that there's absolutely no imagination, no penetration, no decisiveness in any of his passes. Needs to take more responsibility.
 
Halftrack said:
They obviously have different roles.
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They have different skillsets but the roles are quite similar. They're both playing as holding midfielders this season. In any case role has nothing to do with what he said - the idea that van Gaal doesn't want people to pass forward is an easy excuse for Schneiderlin. It's just not true.
 
Great buy but needs the proper players around him as he is only a small although vital part of the team.
 
Brwned said:
Yet Carrick's had no trouble passing forward all season....
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Mainly Carrick played with Morgan and Morgan has the holding role. Carrick didn't pass the ball forward well vs Arsenal when he played with Bastian.
I'm putting it down to role, Carrick is a better passer than Morgan, but Morgan can still pass the ball, seems to me hes not allowed.
Blind said something about one of the midfielders not being allowed to take any risk with the ball last season, usually the no6
 
Akash said:
Passing forward is not really a problem. The problem is more that there's absolutely no imagination, no penetration, no decisiveness in any of his passes. Needs to take more responsibility.
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That's exactly it for me, particularly the decisiveness.

It's not just that he more often then not picks the most unimaginative/least adventurous pass possible (and often a completely unneccesary one)... but also that he takes an absolute age to do it.
 
Liverpool 0:1 Man Utd
His performance thread was almost as hard to find as he is on the pitch. He's gone hiding again. He's absolutely useless at positioning himself to receive a pass in midfield. Our defenders have zero options when they're on the ball.
 
Horrendous. The moment where he received the ball from Smalling, pondered on it for about 10 seconds and then passed it back to DDG summed his United career up so far.

And I think he was the one to lose possession for the Liverpool chance early in the first half?
 
His passing has been awful today, those three to Young was horrible putting him in a very difficult situation all the time.
 
He's definitely not hit his Southampton-level yet. Underperforming.
 
Cassidy said:
Mainly Carrick played with Morgan and Morgan has the holding role. Carrick didn't pass the ball forward well vs Arsenal when he played with Bastian.
I'm putting it down to role, Carrick is a better passer than Morgan, but Morgan can still pass the ball, seems to me hes not allowed.
Blind said something about one of the midfielders not being allowed to take any risk with the ball last season, usually the no6
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People always refer back to that Arsenal game for the Carrick-Schneiderlin partnership but he played alongside Schweinsteiger in a few other games and passed it forward consistently better than any of our other midfielders this season. This whole "van Gaal doesn't like passing forwardW is an easy excuse. Carrick was one of our best players last season, in that holding role, and he passed it forward all the time. That's part of the reason he was first choice when fit. As van Gaal said...

"He is a midfielder who can play the ball forward and that I like. Our aim is always to pass the more forward rather than sideways or backwards."

I've no idea why people are making excuses for Schneiderlin.
 
Brwned said:
People always refer back to that Arsenal game for the Carrick-Schneiderlin partnership but he played alongside Schweinsteiger in a few other games and passed it forward consistently better than any of our other midfielders this season. This whole "van Gaal doesn't like passing forwardW is an easy excuse. Carrick was one of our best players last season, in that holding role, and he passed it forward all the time. That's part of the reason he was first choice when fit. As van Gaal said...

"He is a midfielder who can play the ball forward and that I like. Our aim is always to pass the more forward rather than sideways or backwards."

I've no idea why people are making excuses for Schneiderlin.
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Pretty sure that's what my post, which you quoted, said....

EDIT: As for what LVG said, well since when has he done anything which he has said he would on the pitch in terms of our play
 
Cassidy said:
Mainly Carrick played with Morgan and Morgan has the holding role. Carrick didn't pass the ball forward well vs Arsenal when he played with Bastian.
I'm putting it down to role, Carrick is a better passer than Morgan, but Morgan can still pass the ball, seems to me hes not allowed.
Blind said something about one of the midfielders not being allowed to take any risk with the ball last season, usually the no6
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Get off that train.. How can blind be allowed to and Morgan not allowed to? It's simple he takes ages to make that pass and when pressure is applied he looks awful. He just needs to work on quicker releases and seeing gaps before they are closed.
 
Brwned said:
I've no idea why people are making excuses for Schneiderlin
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People get very invested in signings and then find it difficult to acknowledge they haven't been as good as they thought they'd be. It's happened with Schweinsteiger and Depay too.
 
Cassidy said:
Pretty sure that's what my post, which you quoted, said....

EDIT: As for what LVG said, well since when has he done anything which he has said he would on the pitch in terms of our play
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You need to read the next 5 words...

If van Gaal wanted him to pass backwards and sideways he would. It's Carrick we're talking about here. The fact is he doesn't. He passes forward whenever possible in almost every game. Fellaini and Schneiderlin don't because they can't.
 
Is he making it his goal to be utterly anonymous? Once again, done absolutely nothing. Think it was about 20 minutes in when I had to think as to whether he'd actually done anything.
 
acnumber9 said:
His performance thread was almost as hard to find as he is on the pitch. He's gone hiding again. He's absolutely useless at positioning himself to receive a pass in midfield. Our defenders have zero options when they're on the ball.
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Literally only comes alive when we are hunting the ball. When his other midfield partner is Fellaini, this shows up even more. When we bought him, I liked the fact that he was combative midfielder who can also play a bit, but he seems to have forgotten how to play this year.
 
Brwned said:
You need to read the next 5 words...

If van Gaal wanted him to pass backwards and sideways he would. It's Carrick we're talking about here. The fact is he doesn't. He passes forward whenever possible in almost every game. Fellaini and Schneiderlin don't because they can't.
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I suppose Bastian can't too...
 
KikiDaKats said:
Get off that train.. How can blind be allowed to and Morgan not allowed to? It's simple he takes ages to make that pass and when pressure is applied he looks awful. He just needs to work on quicker releases and seeing gaps before they are closed.
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When Blind played in midfield last season, he wasn't allowed to, he said so himself.
Gary Neville even did a big piece on Blind on SkySports saying he doesn't pass the ball forward, and then Blind made the comment in his response
 
BTW I'm not even making excuses for him, I think hes been poor. However similar was said about Carrick when he first arrived and played along side Scholes...
On top of that I think the manager is the biggest issue, I have watched Morgan (before he came to United), and to say he can't pass forward is not correct
 
Not think he's been that bad, he's on his own in midfield and has made some pretty important interceptions and tackles. Possession wise he's been poor but who hasn't been poor in possession?
 
It wasn't even that he did much wrong; he just offered nothing whatsoever.
 
Since coming back he's been really off. Before he was constantly shielding the defence but now I barely ever notice him. Is it the lack of Schweinsteiger?
 
KikiDaKats said:
Get off that train.. How can blind be allowed to and Morgan not allowed to? It's simple he takes ages to make that pass and when pressure is applied he looks awful. He just needs to work on quicker releases and seeing gaps before they are closed.
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its pretty normal that cbacks have more time on the ball than DMs, they are pressured much more and play with their back to the goal.

Schneiderlin has been poor today, dont udnerstand what happened to him but hes restricted to playlike himself, saying this gotta admit that hes been quite late to every tackle he made lately, he doesnt focus enough
 
He is really average, I can't understand the caf's love for him.

His passing is awful for a defensive midfielder, he either plays it to our defenders, and when he is not doing that he is playing most unintelligent passes you'll see. Sometimes we do some decent piece of play, and the ball comes to him and lot of times he picks the worst option to pass to, usually resulting in that player either losing the ball few seconds after or being forced to play it back because he was tightly marked and not available to pass to in the first place.
 
Amar__ said:
He is really average, I can't understand the caf's love for him.

His passing is awful for a defensive midfielder, he either plays it to our defenders, and when he is not doing that he is playing most unintelligent passes you'll see. Sometimes we do some decent piece of play, and the ball comes to him and lot of times he picks the worst option to pass to, usually resulting in that player either losing the ball few seconds after or being forced to play it back because he was tightly marked and not available to pass to in the first place.
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This is wrong. A lot of our players have dropped off, over the last month or so. Funnily, they're all defensive players. Smalling, BFS, Morgan, Blind, Darmian (a long while back). Schneiderlin was actually really good for us, earlier in the season and it's no surprise that we've still only been beaten once with him in the team. Is it really a coincidence that we lost three in a row since (Norwich, Bournemouth and Stoke) without him and have won 2 and drawn 2 with him back in the side? I don't think so.
 
Has a lot of improving to do if he's to be anywhere good enough for United
 
I thought he was worse than anonymous today. Lost too many challenges, gave the ball away cheaply, looked off the pace through-out. First half he was atrocious.
 
He started the season in average form, then got into good form for a while, then went off the boil and is currently having a bad spell.

That pretty much wraps up his season so far.

Having Fellaini as his partner can't be helping, but today Fellaini actually did quite well and Schneiderlin was still quite poor. I think once Carrick gets back we'll see him start playing better again, but we signed him to remove our reliance on Carrick and he hasn't really done that. I'm confident he'll come good, but hopefully it'll happen sooner rather than later.
 
Invisible, sums it up. Didn't do much wrong, but as others pointed out, he doesn't position himself to receive the ball. He looks as mobile as Carrick atm.
 
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