Schmidfield 
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No idea why he get's benched every other game, not like he's 34 and needs a rest every other week, should be starting every game.
He hasn't won over LVG yet. It's the same with Herrera, and it was the same with Mata and Smalling.
I really wish we'd at least try partnering him and Herrera in the middle with Mata as the number 10.
We haven't lost a game with him in the team this season. However, LVG will take no notice.
Should be a starter in every game imo and I think he could hold down the middle on his own.
Really!? Impressive if true.
We hardly ever scored with him in the team either. It's not really that impressive when you look through the results with him in the team, but it's quite obvious we are better defensively though.
And yeah, we lost against Swansea with him as a starter I think.
It's nuts how teams concede far less when this guy plays. It was the same with Southampton. Their defence looked unbreachable when he was still there and now they are conceding like that's the key to success.
I forgot about Swansea. That criticism would be valid if his job was to attack. But he's in the team to make us solid and make sure we control the middle of the park. No one else in our squad comes close to him in fulfilling those duties. Our failure to score when he's in the team or isn't is down to the lads infront of him and the manager.
Thought he was really good yesterday.
Why he didn't play at Stoke baffles me but hey it's Van Gaal, logic goes out of the window.
Why he didn't play at Stoke baffles me but hey it's Van Gaal, logic goes out of the window.
It's all thanks to the new baresi
Thought he was pretty poor against Chelsea if I'm honest, he slows down our play far too often and is far too negative on the ball. Sure he offers more defensive cover but that's not enough at a club like Utd, to often he turns backwards instead of driving the ball through midfield or playing that killer ball into the strikers. He's got a hell of a long way to go to become Utd quality.
I think that is a bit of fear. I thought he has played decently all season and then he finds himself benched. Clearly Van Gaal responds well to possession which is why so many of our players refuse to take risks with the ball. Even low percentage risk. That won't change unless LvG changes his stripes or is replaced. Schneiderlin is required for our team to function properly. Now stick on an actual forward and a right winger and I think we see different results.
He and Herrera are massive parts in helping out with that and it'd be ace to seem them together in every game their fit with Schweinsteiger when he can play.
Goals conceded per 90 mins when he is on the pitch: 0.52
Goals conceded per 90 mins when he's NOT on the pitch: 1.39
Goals conceded per 90 mins when he's NOT on the pitch: 1.39
couldn't agree more
Really? I thought he was class against Chelsea, especially in the first half. Such a great defender.
We would get cut open in seconds. Herrera is not a 2 man midfielder
Most wouldn't say scholes was if he didn't play for United in one
Best signing and shame that we haven't found the right formation to make the best of this quality footballer. We have have some quality players, and yet some first team players that are nothing better than squad players
Scholes had a different skill set to Herrera though. He could dictate the play and tempo from deeper positions and was probably the best passer in the Premier League. Herrera on the other hand is basically a #10 or at the very least an advanced midfielder in a 4-3-3. Herrera in a 2 man combined with having Mata at #10 who is weak with the ball and doesn't have the energy or work rate (of a Rooney for example) would be a disaster defensively
Probably the same genius reason he didn't play at Arsenal!
Not really. Herrera does quite a bit of defensive work, has a great work rate, and is a very good tackler. Next to Schneiderlin he'd be excellent in a 2 man midfield IMO, or Carrick. Both have the great defensive awareness to cover for Herrera if he's out of position, but Herrera has the energy to make up for not having the best positional sense. In a two man midfield, you need one of your midfielders to be adventurous and more offensively minded, like Herrera is. They can't both be defensive mids. Schneiderlin and herrera could both basically be box to box players, just one is more defensive, while Herrera is more attacking (as it should be in a partnership like that). Van Gaal most likely won't ever try it, but you can be perfectly sure that under Fergie it would be brilliant. After all, look at the players that Fergie made work in a 2 man midfield over the last few years. Cleverley, Anderson, Giggs, etc... Are you going to tell me they are more suited to a 2 man midfield then Herrera? Nonsense really.
On the ball he can improve a lot, and has shown he has it in him on occasion to be better. But defensively he does so much that he just has to start. When he plays, we hardly ever concede goals, let alone lose games. He just makes it all work from a defensive viewpoint.
Disagree. Obviously I'm not suggesting this for big matches, but in games we're expected to dominate possession Schneiderlin is good enough to protect the back 4 by himself and Herrera is no slouch in midfield either.
Perhaps but Utd have never had a defensive mentality and I don't think we should need to either, maybe that is just a sign of the times. Schniderlin is a player you use when your worried about the opposition but I still beleive that the best of of defence is to attack.
Man Utd 2:1 Swansea
Good work defensively but not one of his better days on the ball, don't think he's helped by playing as a midfield 1 a lot of the time.
He's not good enough on the ball for a United midfielder.
United midfielder with the best pass completion rate over the course of the season and also today. He's doing what he's supposed to do and considering it's his first season at this level, it's good enough. He should definitely improve, but Schweinsteiger's and Carrick's performances have been the bigger problem. He enables them to do what they are supposed to do, control the game and start attacks, but they've both been disappointing for the most part by their standards. If we had Gündogan, Verratti, Thiago, Cazorla or Modric next to him, we'd look a lot better.
You can't have seen him for Southampton last season, then. He was amazing as a box-to-box mid who contributed a lot to their attack. Just because he hasn't really done so for United (yet) doesn't mean he isn't capable of doing so. I'm more inclined to put his relative lack of attacking contribution down to LvG preferring to use him as a shield for the defense rather than him not being United quality.
I'm inclined to say "don't bother". I've pointed to stats showing that he's no worse than our other midfielders (hell, his stats are comparable to similar players in other big teams) in terms of pass completion, length or direction, but others will simply hide behind the ol' "stats don't tell the whole story" ( I know they don't, but they can, sort of, prove that a lot of people are talking complete bollocks).
I know a lot of fans are (naturally) judging him based on his performances for us, but it actually pains me when it's obvious that they've never actually taken note of how he's played before he joined us (and in some cases, it's obvious that they knew nothing about what kind of player he was), and criticizes him for being unable to do things he had no problems doing before arriving here.
Pass completion means diddly squat. He lacks awareness and the passing to play there. Even today there were a couple of occasions where he got caught out and it's something that's happened throughout the season.
at the bit in bold. If we had those Schniederlin wouldn't make the bench.He should be judged on how he plays for United, now how he did at his previous club. His current level is not good enough.
Pass completion means diddly squat. He lacks awareness and the passing to play there. Even today there were a couple of occasions where he got caught out and it's something that's happened throughout the season.
One of them obviously. Why is Wenger insisting on playing Coquelin alongside Cazorla? Coquelin has basically the same role Schneiderlin has with us. If he's not good enough, then what about Schweinsteiger, Carrick, Herrera and Fellaini?
Coquelin has been clearly better than Schneiderlin and has improved loads this season. Also a better and more incisive passer.
He's not good enough? FFS people need to stop with his overreactions. He's not Roy Keane but he's not Djembax2 either
We bought him to protect defense, as other people have said we need a dynamic player who can dictate play besides him. He is decent on the ball and can definitely hit a long ball, but a playmaker he will never be.
I think LvG misses a trick by leaving him out for matches where he thinks we're going to dominate possession. Those are the games where we're most vulnerable to counter-attacks. The Norwich game is probably the most depressing example. Schneiderlin needs to play every game, but especially the ones where we're camped in the opponent's half. It's counter-intuitive, but that's when we've dropped the most points and needed the most pace in midfield.
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