He cost Liverpool 55m when the easy add ons are included
Moises Caicedo | Chelsea agree £115M fee | signed for Chelsea
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Who would have thought the 3 most expensive British transfers ever would be 3 defensive midfielders!
The overall cost of Caicedo will likely be much lower than the overall cost of Bellingham though. It's like pretending that Erling Haaland cost less than Nunez. Transfer fee is not the only factor to take in to account.
If this works, they have the midfield sorted for 10 years. This still stands.
If he's a good player for them and another club wants to sign him, they will easily get the money back.
The only bad scenario is he's shit for Liverpool. Might be the case but unfortunately I think it'll be the opposite.
It was to save face. Bellingham didn't want to join.
Absolutely. Would've worked out much better not getting Champions League so we could've sacked Ten Hag and got in a manager who would've prioritised this signing instead of spending a similar amount on Mason fecking Mount.
This place would have exploded if we bid the same amount as Scousers. Young player with a huge price tag. He will not be the first one to crumble under such pressure
How are the scousers going to try and bring this price down ? Every report I've read says it 110m.
Caicedo will literally go anywhere that’s a top 4 contender. He isn’t selective at all.
This doesn't sound true. Check Caicedo thread, he was getting a lot of praise way before (especially by United fans as he played very well against us).
Its just madness. They saw how a dm transformed our midfield and somehow they are baffled that Arsenal and Liverpool are spending big on that position.
They've basically bought Brightons midfield for £150m crazy days.
Price is ridiculous for a kid who had 1 decent season, may prove worth it in the long run but these are crazy days I am not sure I would be happy if we were looking at paying this sort of money for him
feck it.
No one are underrating DMs, but £110m is too much. No one has ever paid £110m for a DM. The closest is Declan Rice who has played DM in Premier League for 5-6 seasons now. Caicedo has played one. We paid £60m for Casemiro, Madrid paid £85m for Tchouameni who had shown more than Caicedo (and is better), Chelsea's limit was £80m for Caicedo and Arsenal are just out of their minds. I'd get it if he was contributing heavily in attack as well, similarly to how Rodri does for City, but he doesn't, and it's almost a purely defensive signing.
Attackers generally go for more than midfielders/defenders, and it has always been like that. Lukaku cost us more than Højlund, and that is 6 years ago. It's really not that bad when you consider his potential.
Too expensive? Yes.
Great player? Yes.
Is he as good as Case? No.
I don't see why there appear to be irreconcilable differences in this thread.
Great player? Yes.
Is he as good as Case? No.
I don't see why there appear to be irreconcilable differences in this thread.
He’s shit anyway.
Thats my take on big fees. If the player can reach his potential and help the team to trophies the fee does not matter. Same with Antony and Rasmus if they become important parts of a team that wins us trophies no one will care about their fees.
That’s a mental amount of money. Considering Bissouma only went for £25m a season ago and he looked pretty handy for Brighton at the time who has struggled at Spurs since.
But that is the issue, he improves them hypothetically. We have to wait to see if that happens in reality, football is not played on paper and the whole sorted for 'x' amount of years thing rarely works.
He is just as much risk as the other, and I am not saying that it is not a logical transfer. I am just not getting the stupid reactions to this.
Good player, should hypothetically improve them, stupid money thrown around.
This place never fails to amaze me, now comparing Caicedo to Casemiro.
Casemiro, five time champions league winner and three league titles in his career. Came to United and was comfortably out best player despite people writing him off the moment we signed him, it showed every single game he missed just how good he was. Caicedo meanwhile has never won anything, never done it for a big club or felt the pressure of playing for a big club. Not even going to downplay him as there’s potential there for him to be absolutely quality and deliver for Liverpool, long way to go though and there’s levels to the game, which Casemiro has been playing and performing at the absolute highest level. Let Liverpool sign their player without being silly and comparing him to ours.
Casemiro, five time champions league winner and three league titles in his career. Came to United and was comfortably out best player despite people writing him off the moment we signed him, it showed every single game he missed just how good he was. Caicedo meanwhile has never won anything, never done it for a big club or felt the pressure of playing for a big club. Not even going to downplay him as there’s potential there for him to be absolutely quality and deliver for Liverpool, long way to go though and there’s levels to the game, which Casemiro has been playing and performing at the absolute highest level. Let Liverpool sign their player without being silly and comparing him to ours.
Every player can transform the midfield if they're fecking world class who has won 5 Champions League titles and been part of one of the greatest teams in existence ffs
He wasn't just any DM who had barely played professional football.
He might be young but's hes already proven over a season. And this is the pricing at the minute it seems.
Yes, a DM. Not 110m on a DM.
Nobody is saying it’s not an important position but there’s a difference between spending big on a position and paying a fee that leaves him as the 5th most expensive player of all time surely?
£110m for a right-back.
Just woke up this morning.
Fah King Hell!!
Fah King Hell!!
The big benefit he’ll bring to Liverpool is he’ll be able to cover the spaces Trent leaves as Caicedo is used to playing RB as well.
Like seeing Armstrong give Ulrich the look on Alp d'Huez before jetting away from him, after feigning a tough ride in the saddle all day.
Feck me that was cold.
These fees are madness. Every decent player will command a £100m from now on.
Agreed. Also, some easily forgetting our most successful European era coincided with Carrick replacing Keane. A lesser player than Keane, but better at screening defence.
Why didn’t they just go for Bellingham?
Why didn’t they just go for Bellingham?
He didn’t want to play for them.
Is Simon Stone a Liverpool fan?
Shit sideways passing glorified right back.
Bissouma was in the last year of his contract and we knew he wouldn’t sign a new one. Caicedo signed a new one in Feb this year, he’s also a much better player.
Also Bissouma’s fee was closer to 35 if you include the add ons.
I think this is such a key point, Cucurella is another.
Brighton have been so well coached over the last few years that all players know/knew there roles and how to fit in. It must make a player look way better than he would in a badly coached team (to prevent arguments let's say under Ragnicks United).
Can Klopp get the best system to work for MacAllister and Caceido ... probably but it could take time which at £100M+ fans and media may not afford him.
Stone saying that is so laughably embarrassing. They’ve taught Chelsea absolutely nothing, they know all about spending over the odds on players already.
£165m
If it was United bidding Sky Sports would be talking about it in Yen figures
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