Moises Caicedo | Chelsea agree £115M fee | signed for Chelsea

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LordSpud said:
I do admire Liverpool's ability to storm in and do a deal in seemingly hours. They did it with Konate, with Nunez, with Gakpo, now with Caicedo.
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Anyone can steam in and offer a feck tonne more money than the other side bidding. Nothing about that is at all impressive.
Brighton have said their price all along, was the same with Gakpo and with Nunez. If Chelsea had simply paid what Brighton asked, Liverpool would’ve missed out on him by twiddling their fingers.
 
duffer said:
Is this a thing? I've genuinely not noticed (other than one quote from years ago).
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Maybe not then.

Maybe it's me, I tend to glaze over as soon as he opens his mouth and I see his teeth.
 
LordSpud said:
I do admire Liverpool's ability to storm in and do a deal in seemingly hours. They did it with Konate, with Nunez, with Gakpo, now with Caicedo.
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Well in the case if Nunez and Caicedo they have overpaid by at least £20m. Makes it pretty easy when you do that.
 
Wow BBC reporting £111m. Crazy money I guess we did really well in this transfer window so far. Like many said Liverpool win a trophy or get back in the champions league that fee won’t matter. Glad we didn’t get pull into that mess
 
Borys said:
I can agree Casemiro is a better player but he is and will be declining while Caicedo has a few years from reaching his prime. Same way as we paid over the odds for Hojlund - not because he's worth that money now, but he might be in some time. The difference is Caicedo has already been one of the best DMs in the league.
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Caceido will never be as good as Casemiro and there isn’t a chance that he even stays at Liverpool for much longer than Casemiro stays at United.
He comes across as a little rat. He’ll be fecking Liverpool over for a move elsewhere within 2 seasons.
This price is ridiculous, there’s no talking around it no matter how hard some fans try
 
mav_9me said:
Wait a minute. Buying a whole new central midfield is not good squad planning. Buying young is not the only thing right? That amount of change is not good obviously. While Fabinho and Henderson leaving came out of nowhere, most people would have said they needed replacing anyway. Actually how they've let their midfield get to this is an example of poor squad building. For example they've bought 4 attackers before buying midfielders. Hence this splashing to get a new midfield

Agree for Arsenal, but don't forget there's as many questions on Havertz as on Mount, if not more.
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Poor squad planning is the reason they're in the Europa this season.
 
£110m is an insane fee for a DM that has played one season at a high level. Should have gone for Lavia for £50m and used the rest to strengthen their squad. I'm not concerned at all about them mounting a title challenge, they'll be in a battle for top 4.
 
I think Klopp probably looked at Real Madrid - naturally as they have beaten them about 5 times in the CL and decided he needed to invest heavily in midfield. £200m on 3 new midfielders in one window. I reckon they may still go for Lavia as well.
 
You'd think they were signing prime Xavi based on the reactions by some of the posters here. It's Caicedo who's had one good season in the PL, and they're paying £110m. He's a good player with great potential, but come on..
 
mav_9me said:
In 3 years our midfield will be Mainoo (21), Mount (24) and another (25). Who knows. We can't worry about 3 years from now when we have so much to fix with our squad for this season. We are just at a different stage of squad building compared to them. That's just the reality.
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Mason Mount is 24 now, how can he be 25 in 3 years time. Or have you signed Benjamin Button?
 
Shouldn’t Klopp be retired by now. I thought he was a man of his word and of impeccable honour?
 
fergosaurus said:
£110m is an insane fee for a DM that has played one season at a high level. Should have gone for Lavia for £50m and used the rest to strengthen their squad. I'm not concerned at all about them mounting a title challenge, they'll be in a battle for top 4.
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I don’t agree, Caicedo is generational. The closest thing to Kante since the man himself. If they win say 2 PL’s and a CL in the next 5 years - which I could easily see, then this will be the signing that everyone talks about as the watershed moment.
 
rpitroda said:
I don’t understand the “this makes the Casemiro signing shit” argument. People seem to operate in a little bubble as if footballers are robots and computers who follow an algorithm without deviation. A year ago we were a club with a squad without winners, no proper leaders, no confidence, no mental resilience and coming off a decade of chaos. Casemiro wasn’t just a key target because he was a good midfielder. He was a key target because he was a good midfielder and came with a huge amount of experience and mentality to help start the process of rebuilding the culture within our team. Simply incomparable situation.
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It's insane. Casemiro has been an absolute top signing for us. People have lost their marbles over this big time.
 
When did DM’s become the most valued players on the market haha.

Bonkers to spend 130 million on a DM after 1 decent season at Brighton.
 
BaguetteBoy said:
Wow BBC reporting £111m. Crazy money I guess we did really well in this transfer window so far. Like many said Liverpool win a trophy or get back in the champions league that fee won’t matter. Glad we didn’t get pull into that mess
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Why?? It’s not your money or mine. I would have loved to trump them it’s prob about 10m a season if he stays and slots into the team. With a very good chance of sell on for serious ££ given where the market is now and will be going. Fans just haven’t yet caught up with things and by the time they do this deal won’t look anything other than spendy at the time but a solid investment.
 
cyberman said:
We weren’t even involved in this transfer and stole a midfielder off them that Klopp wanted as first choice.
Calm down, there’s Chelsea fans shitting themselves less this morning than you lot
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I’m hardly “shitting myself”.. I’m expressing an opinion. Something that seems to annoy a lot of people on here when that opinion is different to that of their own.
 
Understandable why we never looked at Caicedo as a realistic signing considering the fee he's gone for. I thought Brigton would sell for £80m a few months ago tbh. £110m is a lot, especially for Liverpool who still need at least 1 new defender. I think he's a really great player though, he definitely improves them massively.
 
cyberman said:
Caceido will never be as good as Casemiro and there isn’t a chance that he even stays at Liverpool for much longer than Casemiro stays at United.
He comes across as a little rat. He’ll be fecking Liverpool over for a move elsewhere within 2 seasons.
This price is ridiculous, there’s no talking around it no matter how hard some fans try
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Caicedo is the guy who looks closest to top DM prospect out there. He has loads of potential and already played key role for well drilled side. Two top sides were after him this window.
I don't even know why we're discussing Casemiro vs Caicedo now. IMO there isn't much between them RIGHT NOW, apart from one being 21 and the second 31. This is how high I rate Caicedo.
 
Think we'll have a good idea after the upcoming season whether this move was worth it or if we had been better off signing Lavia for £50m weeks ago and use that £60m elsewhere to invest in our squad, you can still buy some absolutely quality players with that kind of money.

Also annoying that we left it this late to get a deal done for a DM, the season literally starts tonight. He should get a period of a month or so during which he needs to adapt to our style of play, his role is pivotal for our team, but after that he should be up and running, little to no excuses for him to have a huge season for us.

I saw this kid play live at Beerschot two years ago for 1.000 fans, now he's one of the most expensive players in history, crazy money man.
 
Idxomer said:
Liverpool have been the only team able to go the distance with City over the last 5 seasons.

I think with this signing they will do it again.
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Their defence is very average now. That midfield could be incredible in a couple of seasons but I think they’re a bit away and by then Salah has gone. It is worryingly moving back to what in my opinion made Pool so good though - that technical high energy midfield that will outrun everyone and just feed a pacy front line.
 
MUFC OK said:
I don’t agree, Caicedo is generational. The closest thing to Kante since the man himself. If they win say 2 PL’s and a CL in the next 5 years - which I could easily see, then this will be the signing that everyone talks about as the watershed moment.
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You're going way over the top. Mbappé and Haaland are generational players. He's also not shown anything close to Kanté's level yet.
 
Don't know why fans get so worked up about transfer fees. He's a class player and he'll improve Liverpool a hell of a lot. I think as others have said, he could easily have a Kante impact.
 
Borys said:
Caicedo is the guy who looks closest to top DM prospect out there. He has loads of potential and already played key role for well drilled side. Two top sides were after him this window.
I don't even know why we're discussing Casemiro vs Caicedo now. IMO there isn't much between them RIGHT NOW, apart from one being 21 and the second 31. This is how high I rate Caicedo.
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See, you went way too far here. Casemiro is definitely on a completely different level to Caicedo at this point in their careers
 
MUFC OK said:
I don’t agree, Caicedo is generational. The closest thing to Kante since the man himself. If they win say 2 PL’s and a CL in the next 5 years - which I could easily see, then this will be the signing that everyone talks about as the watershed moment.
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Generational. fecking hell, man.
 
Ace of Spades said:
We paid over the odds because the striker market is not that good. Yes, Caicedo is younger, but there are no guarantees in football. He might become great or he might end up shit.

The market for a DM is nowhere near as bad as a striker that you need to spend that amount, especially on a DM who only has one really good season under the belt.
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But Caicedo goes to Liverpool and improves them instantly by a high margin. If this works then they are sorted for 10years.
Liverpool needed a DM and we needed a striker, each club adressed their issue. But let's not make it sound like Caicedo is more of a risk than Hojlund.
 
rajds89 said:
I’m hardly “shitting myself”.. I’m expressing an opinion. Something that seems to annoy a lot of people on here when that opinion is different to that of their own.
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No, you’re flapping to be honest
 
Borys said:
Loan whoever for half a season and then get Toney, for example. It's not like Hojlund is expected to hit the ground running in the first season. All I'm saying is we had options and could take different strategies. If you spend 200m+ in one window than you can't complain about not being able to afford X player IMO. It's a matter of how you want to build your squad.

I'm OK with the choices ETH/club made, there was no scenario in which we are title contenders even if we used the whole budget for Kane.
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Why would we have prioritised him over any of the gaps that we didn't have players for at all, when we have Casemiro? When we need a new DM, there will be plenty of other options available.
 
cyberman said:
No, you’re flapping to be honest
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You do know you’re under no obligation to engage with me don’t you? If you don’t agree with my opinion fine, you don’t have to make a big song and dance about it which you quite often do.
 
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