Mohammed Kudus

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Brighton have identified the right players provisionally when looking at this window. I believe Chelsea acquired some of their employees in key operations but it seems like the hierarchy are efficient with their approaches because players join the club and they are increasing in value due to good performances and adaptation to the league.

This is ideally the type of development that would be good to see at United with the jury still out with Murtough and co.
 
Crimson King said:
€40m for a top 15 player? Not sure it's a big loss then.

He'll probably start for Brighton as well, not sure he would for us, at least not straight away.
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not sure i would condemn it as not a big loss if you consider thsi guy a top 15 player in the squad. He'd probably start half the time on the wing ahead of Antony and be a first guy off the bench of real quality

we aren't City who has €100m players on the bench or €50m players on the bench like Phillips who never play....we can't afford that nor can we afford to make that type of mistake in our transfer business
 
Redstain said:
Brighton have identified the right players provisionally when looking at this window. I believe Chelsea acquired some of their employees in key operations but it seems like the hierarchy are efficient with their approaches because players join the club and they are increasing in value due to good performances and adaptation to the league.

This is ideally the type of development that would be good to see at United with the jury still out with Murtough and co.
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I think you have got your increases and decreases mixed up.
Chelsea have been rinsed in the market and the only good business they did last season was not signing Felix on a permanent basis.
 
Bondi77 said:
I think you have got your increases and decreases mixed up.
Chelsea have been rinsed in the market and the only good business they did last season was not signing Felix on a permanent basis.
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Perhaps I didn't word it effectively what I mean was despite Chelsea poaching Brighton's staff it still hasn't impeded Brightons ability to identify and acquire good players they have scouted etc. Oftentimes when a team does well in recruitment it's easier to tailor it to an individual in the hierarchy who heaps the praise (typically a DOF). Despite the loss of key staff in those positions Brighton are still making shrewd moves for players.

I reckon Pedro will be a fantastic player for them on the premise of his talent and a decent season in the championship. Kudus likewise is an exciting versatile player, both young and both have much to prove which is the perfect profile to embed into an optimistic team. When I contrast this approach with United it feels like the team is being put together as opposed to being built. There's already an objective view for a Casemiro replacement which really isn't sufficient for a 70M signing signed less than a year ago.

I think it's important for any club to have a long term directive and thus far United's approach to the market for players is questionable. Two windows and it's hard to identify what the strategic long term approach is which is something that has to be planned beyond the position of the present manager.
 
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bosskeano said:
not sure i would condemn it as not a big loss if you consider thsi guy a top 15 player in the squad. He'd probably start half the time on the wing ahead of Antony and be a first guy off the bench of real quality

we aren't City who has €100m players on the bench or €50m players on the bench like Phillips who never play....we can't afford that nor can we afford to make that type of mistake in our transfer business
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We'll have 40m, 50m, 70+m, and 80m bench in VdB, Fred, Sancho and Maguire next season. And if Hojlund won't be our starter, that's another 70+m bench player.
 
Redstain said:
Perhaps I didn't word it effectively what I mean was despite Chelsea poaching Brighton's staff it still hasn't impeded Brightons ability to identify and acquire good players they have scouted etc. Oftentimes when a team does well in recruitment it's easier to tailor it to an individual in the hierarchy who heaps the praise (typically a DOF). Despite the loss of key staff in those positions Brighton are still making shrewd moves for players.

I reckon Pedro will be a fantastic player for them on the premise of his talent and a decent season in the championship. Kudus likewise is an exciting versatile player, both young and both have much to prove which is the perfect profile to embed into an optimistic team. When I contrast this approach with United it feels like the team is being put together as opposed to being built. There's already an objective view for a Casemiro replacement which really isn't sufficient for a 70M signing signed less than a year ago.

I think it's important for any club to have a long term directive and thus far United's approach to the market for players is questionable. Two windows and it's hard to identify what the strategic long term approach is which is something that has to be planned beyond the position of the present manager.
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Brighton's recruitment has been spot on...I thought you were referring to Chelsea's.
 
Woziak said:
I think we could still hijack that deal ?
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I'm sure you could, if you moved quickly, but why? You guys are pretty stacked in midfield, and while Kudus was great for us at right wing, that's not his preferred position.

RDCR07 said:
Ajax's squad is being gutted. So many players leaving. Are they struggling financially?
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I think we've been mismanaged financually the over the last years. Our squad is big and expensive, we rely heavily on selling and CL. Last summer window was an absolute farce, we spent 120+ million on players that didn't work for us. This summer window is mostly about setting things right
 
AjaxNL said:
I'm sure you could, if you moved quickly, but why? You guys are pretty stacked in midfield, and while Kudus was great for us at right wing, that's not his preferred position.



I think we've been mismanaged financually the over the last years. Our squad is big and expensive, we rely heavily on selling and CL. Last summer window was an absolute farce, we spent 120+ million on players that didn't work for us. This summer window is mostly about setting things right
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He’ll score more goals than Mount so yep at £37m I’d take him
 
AjaxNL said:
I'm sure you could, if you moved quickly, but why? You guys are pretty stacked in midfield, and while Kudus was great for us at right wing, that's not his preferred position.



I think we've been mismanaged financually the over the last years. Our squad is big and expensive, we rely heavily on selling and CL. Last summer window was an absolute farce, we spent 120+ million on players that didn't work for us. This summer window is mostly about setting things right
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IF we ship out Scott, Fred and possibly Donny....that leaves us with Bruno, Casemiro and Mount as our only recognized senior midfielders. We certainly, even with the 3 mentioned for sales, still lack some quality in midfield. The added bonus is that he can play on the wing and he does a pretty damn good job of that as well. For £37m that is a bargain buy that we should be jumping all over.

Issue simply is we haven't sold Scott, Fred, Donny or Maguire yet to raise funds needed to bring in a guy like Kudus or Amrabat.
 
Woziak said:
He’ll score more goals than Mount so yep at £37m I’d take him
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Mount's highest scoring campaign equals Kudus' and he got far more assists and that was clearly at a much higher level in the PL. Kudus' high scoring season was also where he was being played at CF a lot. Mount's also far more physically robust than Kudus who, last season aside, hasn't managed 1000 minutes in a season since joining Ajax.
 
Woziak said:
He’ll score more goals than Mount so yep at £37m I’d take him
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Good thing Mount wasn't brought in to primarily score more goals.

Even though Mounts goal record is pretty impressive, as is his assist record in a far harder league.
 
This lad is a talent, but far from a sure thing for numerous reasons. hilarious seeing people who’ve probably never watched him, doing that typical routine when another team signs basically anyone and claiming he’s the next big thing this club is a JOKE for not signing him etc.
 
Judas said:
This lad is a talent, but far from a sure thing for numerous reasons. hilarious seeing people who’ve probably never watched him, doing that typical routine when another team signs basically anyone and claiming he’s the next big thing this club is a JOKE for not signing him etc.
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I mean he's not some unknown quantity like some of the other examples of what you described :lol:

He was linked to us last summer and had some really standout performances in the CL last season that got attention. Not to mention he was easily Ghana's best player at the World Cup and looked like one of the brightest young talents overall at the tourney.

Haven't seen anyone really stating the club for not signing him, just that he ended up being a cheaper alternative to a pos
 
WeePat said:
Fall out from the Caicedo saga?

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Is a release clause that can be activated after 2 years for a 5 year contract that double the initial transfer fee reasonable for both parties? So in this case £74m?
 
Fortitude said:
Interesting impasse. Very correct of the player to protect his interests and set his terms, but also a challenge to Brighton's structure and methodology. I wonder who will yield in this situation.
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All the agents for the high potential young players should have similar structured release clause in their contracts just like Haaland. These players need game time to develop so it is best for them to join clubs they can play regularly, and at the same time after 2 years of service if they perform really well they can leave for bigger clubs, and the clubs who own their contract can be compensated fairly.
 
ThierryHenry14 said:
All the agents for the high potential young players should have similar structured release clause in their contracts just like Haaland. These players need game time to develop so it is best for them to join clubs they can play regularly, and at the same time after 2 years of service if they perform really well they can leave for bigger clubs, and the clubs who own their contract can be compensated fairly.
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I agree. It's prudent of those handling their careers to set these clauses and provide the smoothest transitions possible for their client. I think we'll see more of this in England.
 
ThierryHenry14 said:
All the agents for the high potential young players should have similar structured release clause in their contracts just like Haaland. These players need game time to develop so it is best for them to join clubs they can play regularly, and at the same time after 2 years of service if they perform really well they can leave for bigger clubs, and the clubs who own their contract can be compensated fairly.
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Yeah, completely agree. The arguments against are pretty tenuous- no-one's saying they have to be 15m releases clauses for, say Ferguson or their young South American wingers. They got big money for Cucurella, so something like that or Haaland at Dortmund style clause.
 
Berbaclass said:
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I don't think it's karma or anything of the sort. What a load of nonsense.

It's just players and clubs acting for themselves, as they've always done. They use the leverage they have for their own benefit.

The reason this player is probably doing it is Brighton are not plucking a player out of Colombia or Venezuela with this one where they hold all the cards. If anything he is taking a sideways move with the profile of club for the benefit of reaching a major league. It's not like Brighton are doing him a big favour here. If he doesn't get this move he'll get another so he holds power in this equation. I don't think it's some massive play against Tony Bloom.

Brighton will continue buying other players with no release and demanding top money. They can and do sell players at a valuation, absolutely nothing wrong with it. How many have they sold now? Just because they don't wilt on Caicedo and some players want a clause doesn't change the merit of their overall approach.
 
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Is this guy a Chelsea fan? :lol: think "keeping him prisoner" and "massive karma" is a bit of a stretch. The players are the ones that sign the contract. God forbid someone is looking out for their teams best interest. They'll sell Caicedo eventually, they just want what they think he's worth and what they know a desperate team will pay.
 
It’s funny. I recall people on here calling Raiola a virus because he demanded a release clause in Haaland’s contract to us, but now it’s what more players should be getting their agents to do? Almost like he was a great agent…
 
Cee90 said:
It’s funny. I recall people on here calling Raiola a virus because he demanded a release clause in Haaland’s contract to us, but now it’s what more players should be getting their agents to do? Almost like he was a great agent…
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He was an amazing agent. Also a huge cnut.
 
Cee90 said:
It’s funny. I recall people on here calling Raiola a virus because he demanded a release clause in Haaland’s contract to us, but now it’s what more players should be getting their agents to do? Almost like he was a great agent…
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Raiola was a great agent for his clients.
 
AFC NimbleThumb said:
I should have put in the 3rd choice. Low budget Rory Jennings, which is saying something. . .

Terribly biased take that one.
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I've no idea why it's been posted in two separate threads on here. It's just a fan posting a silly, bitter take.

I've posted enough dumb Chelsea fan takes over the years I'm kinda insulted people are looking for more. Maybe I need to ramp up the dumbness or pay for a blue tick.
 
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