Mo Salah

united for life said:
I actually do not see a better player at the moment. Salah has been pivotal to what Liverpool has achieved over the last 3 years. He is their star player and is a consistent performer. He is smart on the ball, his decision making in front of goal is also excellent. he is world class
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I would still have to put Lewa above him. He's been insane for the last 3 years consistently without any dips in form.

Man's already got 40 goals for the season at this point of the season. Surely, he's better currently and career-wise than Mo?

Salah is the number 2 for me currently. He's totally world class without any doubt!
 
TenonTen said:
I would still have to put Lewa above him. He's been insane for the last 3 years consistently without any dips in form.

Man's already got 40 goals for the season at this point of the season. Surely, he's better currently and career-wise than Mo?

Salah is the number 2 for me currently. He's totally world class without any doubt!
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i wouldnt just base it on goals. Lewa plays in an easier league and is actually a striker. Mohamed has been the key to liverpool’s success over the last years. For me it’s the other way around; salah then lewa. But probably “experts” will say Messi is currently still better than both
 
He is 29. I feel like once age starts to catch up with him, Klopps era will be close to over.
 
Had to laugh the other day watching Liverpool v Chelsea PL classic on sky sports from 2014 (the Gerrard slip game) and seeing Salah in Chelsea shirt. Just sat thinking you have no idea how good this guy is going to be in a few years time.
 
When he retires would people have him higher than Ribery or/and Robben?
 
mjstokes85 said:
Had to laugh the other day watching Liverpool v Chelsea PL classic on sky sports from 2014 (the Gerrard slip game) and seeing Salah in Chelsea shirt. Just sat thinking you have no idea how good this guy is going to be in a few years time.
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I had the exact same feeling when I watched Wenger's 1000th game a while ago that ended 6-0. Salah scored the 6th goal and I thought it's hard to even fathom the current Salah is the same player as that scrawny little kid.
 
Is he still an honorary citizen of Chechnya and friend to Kadyrov?
 
Steve Bruce said:
He plays for Liverpool, that gives him a head start.
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Is it?

I feel like Gerrard is underrated, rarely mentioned when talking about best midfielders of 2000s, i suspect this is because he underachieved with Liverpool and underperformed with England, but i guess Salah is a different story, he already seems more successful in Liverpool than Gerrard in much less time.
 
Bebestation said:
When he retires would people have him higher than Ribery or/and Robben?
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General consensus probably yes. But I'd say Robben is better though. Played at a high level at every club he was at (when not injured), won everything there was to win, and in general a better footballer than Mo.

Ribery is more similar to Hazard in that he didn't score enough goals to be remembered with those players.
 
Wolf1992 said:
Is it?

I feel like Gerrard is underrated, rarely mentioned when talking about best midfielders of 2000s, i suspect this is because he underachieved with Liverpool and underperformed with England, but i guess Salah is a different story, he already seems more successful in Liverpool than Gerrard in much less time.
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Are you serious? When talking about best 11s he's frequently their. One thing Gerrard isn't, is under rated.

Liverpool players have always been over rated throughout the premier League years. At one stage claimed they had the best keeper, defender, midfielder and striker in their team.

Henderson is apparently world class but I'm truth he's got average ability, great leadership and determination to do the best he can and fair play to him, he's had success
 
TheReligion said:
He’s off in the summer I’m pretty sure
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It's actually kinda sad how far they're taking this moneyball approach and not giving players ~30 big money, lengthy contracts.

I can understand if it were other players, maybe even Mane, but Salah is the face of the club, hard to imagine that they'd kick him out like that.
 
Teja said:
It's actually kinda sad how far they're taking this moneyball approach and not giving players ~30 big money, lengthy contracts.

I can understand if it were other players, maybe even Mane, but Salah is the face of the club, hard to imagine that they'd kick him out like that.
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It's the first time in forever that we have to negotiate a contract extension for a genuine superstar, top 5 player in the world. I'm guessing our wage structure would be blown up if we pay Salah market value, and it's not sure that he'll keep playing at this ridiculous level for the entirety of the contract given he's almost 30 and probably wants a 3 or 4 year deal.

I think it's obvious that we do want to keep him, but there's more in play here than the club playing moneyball. I'm still confident / hopeful both sides are having constructive conversations and a deal will be done which would keep every party happy. I also think Salah definitely wants to stay at Liverpool but he also wants to get paid according to his performances, and rightfully so of course.
 
Random Task said:
You'd call me anything but regular if you knew what was in my coat pocket right now.

As for Mo being a "hell of a player", I wholeheartedly disagree. He's a top-notch scorer of goals, of this there is no doubt, but his overall ability is barely adequate. I won't go too deep on the guy in case he reads this, but yeah, I think he's one of the worst footballers in PL history, no better than a Sunday Leaguer. You might think I'm crazy or delusional, but I don't think he's any better than me.

Yeah, I said, so what. I'm as good as Mo Salah.
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Are you still active? I think a fair few clubs would love to sign you - maybe as a midfielder if your goalscoring is a little weak. It pays pretty well you know, I think you should consider it!
 
RobinLFC said:
It's the first time in forever that we have to negotiate a contract extension for a genuine superstar, top 5 player in the world. I'm guessing our wage structure would be blown up if we pay Salah market value, and it's not sure that he'll keep playing at this ridiculous level for the entirety of the contract given he's almost 30 and probably wants a 3 or 4 year deal.

I think it's obvious that we do want to keep him, but there's more in play here than the club playing moneyball. I'm still confident / hopeful both sides are having constructive conversations and a deal will be done which would keep every party happy. I also think Salah definitely wants to stay at Liverpool but he also wants to get paid according to his performances, and rightfully so of course.
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Yep, don't get me wrong, I don't think giving him 350k p/w or whatever he wants until he's 34 is a good idea.

Is there any club in the world that would pay him that right now? Maybe PSG (to replace Mbappe for a couple of years), Juve (they're shit and want to win in Italy again) and Barca (also a bit shit)?
 
Teja said:
Yep, don't get me wrong, I don't think giving him 350k p/w or whatever he wants until he's 34 is a good idea.

Is there any club in the world that would pay him that right now? Maybe PSG (to replace Mbappe for a couple of years), Juve (they're shit and want to win in Italy again) and Barca (also a bit shit)?
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I think Salah deserves to be the highest paid player in the league and top 5 in the world. Whether its with Liverpool or not, I cannot say
 
I’m not sure where he’d go and get 350-400k p/w other than perhaps PSG. But with them needing to replace Mbappe this summer, I suppose it kind of makes sense. But I’m still hopeful we manage to keep him.
 
City wont mind a free transfer or a swap with Grealish
 
HTG said:
Is he still an honorary citizen of Chechnya and friend to Kadyrov?
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I didn't realize he had a personal relationship with that guy :(

That's really horrible that he would choose to associate himself with someone like that.

How far do they go back? Was Kadyrov living in Egypt at some stage while Salah was growing up?

That's unbelievable, I'm surprised more hasn't been made of it since this all kicked off.
 
adexkola said:
They could always ask him to test the waters elsewhere and come back with an offer. Liverpool can then match it or send Salah along with no hard feelings
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If i am the player I will feel disrespected by the club. My effort and achievement over the years are not valued and appreciated. What he asked for is just market value which is fair and deserved. There is always a risk like Auba situation in Arsenal but Salah seems has a professional attitude.
 
RacingClub said:
I didn't realize he had a personal relationship with that guy :(

That's really horrible that he would choose to associate himself with someone like that.

How far do they go back? Was Kadyrov living in Egypt at some stage while Salah was growing up?

That's unbelievable, I'm surprised more hasn't been made of it since this all kicked off.
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I don't think its that deep. The Egyptian National team were "invited" to Chechnya by Kadyrov himself with Salah being the star attraction. I say national team but from the videos that were released you can tell they were only interested in Salah being there.
 
1905 said:
I don't think its that deep. The Egyptian National team were "invited" to Chechnya by Kadyrov himself with Salah being the star attraction. I say national team but from the videos that were released you can tell they were only interested in Salah being there.
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Ahhh ok so the other guy is just spreading Chechen propaganda to points score on a football forum.

I thought the events of recent days would stop that sort of petty behaviour but I guess I was mistaken.
 
RacingClub said:
Ahhh ok so the other guy is just spreading Chechen propaganda to points score on a football forum.

I thought the events of recent days would stop that sort of petty behaviour but I guess I was mistaken.
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To be fair he wasn't lying when he said he was made an honorary citizen, that bit is true. It's not a good look at all but obviously they were paid to be there.
 
ThierryHenry14 said:
If i am the player I will feel disrespected by the club. My effort and achievement over the years are not valued and appreciated. What he asked for is just market value which is fair and deserved. There is always a risk like Auba situation in Arsenal but Salah seems has a professional attitude.
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How would he know what market value is? Surely competitive offers from other clubs would form that baseline for what the market is pricing him at?

I'm sure Liverpool appreciate and value his contribution, but they have a high wire to walk here; between satisfying their best player, and the interests of the club in the long term.
 
adexkola said:
How would he know what market value is? Surely competitive offers from other clubs would form that baseline for what the market is pricing him at?

I'm sure Liverpool appreciate and value his contribution, but they have a high wire to walk here; between satisfying their best player, and the interests of the club in the long term.
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You can find out what equivalent players are on at other clubs. Gary Neville didn’t have an agent and all he would do was go to the PFA ask them what the Arsenal/Chelsea/Liverpool right backs were on and then get the club to at least match it.

It doesn’t need to be based on what other clubs are going to offer but parity with star players as well as a representative proportion of the clubs revenue.
 
1905 said:
General consensus probably yes. But I'd say Robben is better though. Played at a high level at every club he was at (when not injured), won everything there was to win, and in general a better footballer than Mo.

Ribery is more similar to Hazard in that he didn't score enough goals to be remembered with those players.
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But what is better? if you had a 25 year old Robben and a 25 year old Salah who would you take? If you have to answer this question, you cannot overlook injuries since he never managed to play a whole season injury free. In contrast, Salah nearly never gets injured. So perhaps Robben has a higher peak but objectively having Salah in your team increases objectively your chances of winning the league than if you had Robben.
 
Earvin Johnson said:
But what is better? if you had a 25 year old Robben and a 25 year old Salah who would you take? If you have to answer this question, you cannot overlook injuries since he never managed to play a whole season injury free. In contrast, Salah nearly never gets injured. So perhaps Robben has a higher peak but objectively having Salah in your team increases objectively your chances of winning the league than if you had Robben.
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If you factor in the injury record then it is a no contest.

The only real thing that Robben has over Salah is that he looked more "Majestic" than Salah when he attacked.

I can understand people "Liking" Robben more , he was a fantastic footballer, but part of being a truly world class footballer is being available to perform.
 
I'm a Bayern fan but I will pick Salah because He's rarely injured
 
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