United_We_Stand
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According to La Gazzetta dello Sport newspaper, the Slovakia international is absolutely not for sale.
According to La Gazzetta dello Sport newspaper, the Slovakia international is absolutely not for sale.
According to La Gazzetta dello Sport newspaper, the Slovakia international is absolutely not for sale.
This post doesn't make sense...also GuarinFor someone who is a legend at Inter, Jose has struggled to sign any top and 'current' player from there since he left. I don't want to count oldies like Zlatan and Etoo whom he signed long after he (and they) left the club. Maybe because ownership has also changed in the club. I'm sure things would have been different if Massimo Morrati was still there.
Koulibaly is 1.95m, that should help.
This post doesn't make sense...also Guarin
Confused at people saying he'd be a terrific buy and vidic esque then a fair few saying he's not even that strong in the air!
Vidic was one of the best in the air ever
I've heard the same thing from people who watch him week in and week out. Despite being a big dude, he's meh in the air.He's about 1.87 (his height has been incorrectly recoded in some outlets) and pretty poor in the air. Very good defender and great on the ball though. Would be a really good partner for Smalling.
He's aggressive, rugged and has a shaved head. Must be Vidic-esque.
Yes, and it makes little sense. Mourinho has good relations with Inter, but doesn't mean Inter will pull their pants down everytime he comes callingThought I was pretty clear. Jose is a legend at Inter and he left pretty well. One would think that could be an advantage in recruitment. Of course, not necessarily so but it's a scenario that occurred to me, hence the post.
He's like Vidic in the sense that he's very aggressive and loves to get stuck in. A proper, "pure" defender. Not as good as Vidic in the air of course, and far, far better on the ball. Like Vidic he's more of an enforcer rather than a leader/organiserConfused at people saying he'd be a terrific buy and vidic esque then a fair few saying he's not even that strong in the air!
Vidic was one of the best in the air ever
Yes, and it makes little sense. Mourinho has good relations with Inter, but doesn't mean Inter will pull their pants down everytime he comes calling
Thought I was pretty clear. Jose is a legend at Inter and he left pretty well. One would think that could be an advantage in recruitment. Of course, not necessarily so but it's a scenario that occurred to me, hence the post.
Inter didn't sign a Mourinho player since he left too. When it comes to negotiations there's no friendship in football.
Anyway if there's a player that will not leave Inter at least this summer is Skriniar, wasted time.
Were you happy when we sold SkriniarSo basically Jaap Stam.
I really wonder what the feck does our scouting team do, this guy just moved to Inter last season for peanuts, why couldn't they have signed him sooner, it's not like his skills magically quadrupled in a year.
Whatever just get rid of a couple centre backs please. Fare too many!
Were you happy when we sold Skriniar
No he is not. Don't see Toby is better on the ball, at defending or in the air. Not dominant in the air as of Vidic doesn't mean one can go on the extremity and say meh. He can still improve every part of his game to higher level, and improving he has done since last few years. With Toby, you're getting what you see and while it's consistently among the best in PL, it's not something a beast mode Smalling, Bailly, even Rojo or Jones couldn't match or eclipse. While we don't expect our guys (younger ones) to suddenly deliver consistency over night, it's not the same at we would throw big money for slight improvement.I've heard the same thing from people who watch him week in and week out. Despite being a big dude, he's meh in the air.
Alderweireld is the perfect CB we can buy IMO,he's a bit old yes but he's better in the air and better on the ball than any other CB available
I disagree on the part of " rather than a leader/organizer". Vidic is the leader and organizer of the defense. He is one of the better captain for our team under SAF since Keane left for a reason. He left his post to follow his mark doesn't mean he acted without thinking and left the rest of the defenders without a clue. Can vary is as much an organizer as he is an enforcer. If not I am baffled to the idea of Materazzi was organizing the defense during WC06 after Nesta was out injured during the tournament and Cannaravo still had to carry with his previous job.He's like Vidic in the sense that he's very aggressive and loves to get stuck in. A proper, "pure" defender. Not as good as Vidic in the air of course, and far, far better on the ball. Like Vidic he's more of an enforcer rather than a leader/organiser
Being a good captain has nothing to do with being the brain of the defence. The bolded part, that's being a good defender. All good defenders aren't clueless morons who act without thinking of course. To be more specific, not saying Vidic couldn't be the brain of the defence, but he was better amd more effective when following Rio's lead. Skriniar is the sameI disagree on the part of " rather than a leader/organizer". Vidic is the leader and organizer of the defense. He is one of the better captain for our team under SAF since Keane left for a reason. He left his post to follow his mark doesn't mean he acted without thinking and left the rest of the defenders without a clue. Can vary is as much an organizer as he is an enforcer. If not I am baffled to the idea of Materazzi was organizing the defense during WC06 after Nesta was out injured during the tournament and Cannaravo still had to carry with his previous job.
It's the partnership with a superior organizer which elevate the performance of already high level individuals, sure. Your initial point I read as Vidic's organizing skill is meh, and he's better off doing his own job, hence my response. Vidic's organizing skill is underrated. While there are better organizers out there, he is himself at a high level organizer of a defense. It's not like Rio was always playing, and this club had a single season without injury plague in the defense. Vidic played with makeshift defenders too and not up to task GKs, yet the defense was organized and limited most of the damage had these guys played on their own (without him and Rio, it showed)Being a good captain has nothing to do with being the brain of the defence. The bolded part, that's being a good defender. All good defenders aren't clueless morons who act without thinking of course. To be more specific, not saying Vidic couldn't be the brain of the defence, but he was better amd more effective when following Rio's lead. Skriniar is the same
I would sign him because I like the name
My point was Vidic was better playing as the enforcer rather than the leader. Never said Vidic was a poor defensive brain. No great defender can be bad at itYour initial point I read as Vidic's organizing skill is meh, and he's better off doing his own job, hence my response.
I really wonder what the feck does our scouting team do, this guy just moved to Inter last season for peanuts, why couldn't they have signed him sooner, it's not like his skills magically quadrupled in a year.
While I agree with most of your point, I get his own too. We got Lindelof after a year of scouting through Europe, while Inter bought a better player for less money, there are other examples too.Just because his value quadrupled doesnt mean his ability is also quadrupled. It's just that it's harder to sign from Inter.
Btw this is just silly post, you can ask the same question about any player, this isn't FM where you use game editors and sign all the best possible players for future.
While I agree with most of your point, I get his own too. We got Lindelof after a year of scouting through Europe, while Inter bought a better player for less money, there are other examples too.
That is right also, but we've had lots of flops on our own, and that's part of the point, we need to improve on that. Hopefully Ribalta's appointment will help.Of course, Inter also signed Gabigol, Kondogbia and Jao Mario for more than 120 million too, so like always you sign some good players and you sign few flops.
When it comes to transfer in Italy it can be more complicated than it looks. I meant Inter was to balance their book and something happened behind the scene for them to be able to offload Gianluca Caprari for 15 euro, which was a catalyst for Skriniar deal. There were plenty of complicated deal between Italian clubs in the past. ITK with Italian job like Ribalta may help us in the future.While I agree with most of your point, I get his own too. We got Lindelof after a year of scouting through Europe, while Inter bought a better player for less money, there are other examples too.
Yes, I remember there were some rumblings and generally Inter are badly run club if my memory serves me right, maybe now it's changed since they have a solid squad and got into top 4. In spite of that, my comment was more referring to our scouting and choice more than theirs, since they generally do some awful transfers.When it comes to transfer in Italy it can be more complicated than it looks. I meant Inter was to balance their book and something happened behind the scene for them to be able to offload Gianluca Caprari for 15 euro, which was a catalyst for Skriniar deal. There were plenty of complicated deal between Italian clubs in the past. ITK with Italian job like Ribalta may help us in the future.
It's the old "we need to cook the books, let's throw in a player swap at an overinflated price" trick. Used to happen all the time with in the early 00s. If you look it up, some of the players being moved i'm not even sure actually existed in the first placeWhen it comes to transfer in Italy it can be more complicated than it looks. I meant Inter was to balance their book and something happened behind the scene for them to be able to offload Gianluca Caprari for 15 euro, which was a catalyst for Skriniar deal. There were plenty of complicated deal between Italian clubs in the past. ITK with Italian job like Ribalta may help us in the future.
I meant the Italian clubs seem to have some secret between their dealings. Some good players move between Italian clubs for price that would never be possible for foreigner clubs. It may not just ice as I did remember rumor about us with Skriniar back before his move to Inter.Yes, I remember there were some rumblings and generally Inter are badly run club if my memory serves me right, maybe now it's changed since they have a solid squad and got into top 4. In spite of that, my comment was more referring to our scouting and choice more than theirs, since they generally do some awful transfers.