That's the dream. Along with the Hammers.
Mike Phelan | Sacked by Hull. No shorts, no job.
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That's the dream. Along with the Hammers.
We do need a Reserve team boss.
Wtf Mickey you are the man..
Bob Bradley is free
Bob Bradley is free
He would have been better going to a Championship club, trying to build then get promoted, then joining Hull. They were doomed from the start of the season and would be a miracle for them to stay up with no investment. Snodgrass will probably leave in Jan, which will compound their chances of survival
I wonder who is stupid enough to take that job now.
Like I thought at the beginning of the season, Hull was and is Bruce's team. The owners shot themselves there by letting Bruce walk.
His legacy played a big part in their form under Phelan and even today their stye of play/formations.
His legacy played a big part in their form under Phelan and even today their stye of play/formations.
Incredibly unfair to Mike and it comes at a weird time.
Joke of a club.
Joke of a club.
Getting that shambles of a set up to 13 points should genuinely be enough to land him a decent Championship or lower league club. He's better off rid of them to be honest.
The thing is he was already there as caretaker, did well so the club promoted him. Is he gonna say no, don't promote me?
He never should have stopped wearing shorts.
Stick to what got you there
Stick to what got you there
I hope I'll be there to watch United knock 5 or more past them in Feb.
We'll play them in league cup within the next week... Prepare your trip
Not even Pardew would be interested in taking them. They are dead set for relegation and I doubt any manager who has built a decent reputation would be interested in taking that job.
Maybe Giggs as there is very little to lose or Sherwood maybe?
Maybe Giggs as there is very little to lose or Sherwood maybe?
While his sacking is harsh, it won't finish his career. He'll get another chance soon enough. I'm sure club chairman will appreciate the job he's done at Hull under difficult circumstances, while his association with Alex Ferguson and Manchester United will open some doors I'm sure.
Feel sorry for Mike as he actually had them playing good stuff, they've competed in most of their games but suffered late collapses a lot of the time.
Part of the problem is you can rarely play your way out of a relegation, you need to get in the trenches and fight.
Be interested in seeing him at a good championship club
Part of the problem is you can rarely play your way out of a relegation, you need to get in the trenches and fight.
Be interested in seeing him at a good championship club
No part of their problem is their squad is full of inexperienced or Championship standard players. In the Championship you can get away with defensive mistakes or missing the odd glorious chance, but most teams in the Premiership will punish you for those. They're going down whatever their style of play unless they can get a bit of quality in.
I don't know if it's been posted yet but worthy of a repost if not:
well yeah i don't disagree i was merely pointing out that phelan actually had them playing decent football. Phelan became a bit of a joke figure on here with the 'what does phelan do' and such like i just think he deserves a little credit for clearly being capable of setting a team up to play good football. Hull were doomed the second they binned Bruce and went into the new season with about 2 senior pros on their books
Harsh on Phelan, though I don't think the owners really wanted to give him the job anyway to begin with. It would be a brave manager or one with nothing to lose to take this job now.
Has Alan Curbishley been linked yet?
Has Alan Curbishley been linked yet?
He probably burst a balloon in the boardroom.
apologies if someone's done that one already
apologies if someone's done that one already
Appears that Marco Silva is a leading contender (former Sporting and Olympiakos coach) for the job
Its always unfair when they sack our former players or coaching. Their Ability has nothing to do with their sacking.
Portuguese média has this as almost done deal. Surprised by that move. From Inter/Valência/Porto rumours to Hull. I rate Marco Silva. I expected him to get a bigger job than Hull. If it goes wrong, he may dent his reputation. Risky choice but if he does well perhaps he can get more interesting choices.
That is brilliant, to be honest!
I've had "when I get that feeling, I want, sexy Mike Phelan" in my head for about 4yrs as well.
Their squad was atrocious in both quality and numbers. Put Mourinho as manager with Pep as assistant and Moyes as mascot, and they would still go down.
As said, its never our people's fault. But why, oh why can't Real, Bayern and Juventus sack their managers and appoint Gaz, Phelan and Giggs instead?
Excelent replacement by Hull. I doubt he'll be able to do with them what he did with Estoril and put them in Europa League contention but I think he'll be enough to save them from relegation. Marco Silva knows what he's doing and you can expect Hull to start playing some better football.
Well why did Bruce leave to end up joining a championship club? The club is destined to be relegated, with the owner intent on selling and putting in no investment in, in the meantime
You're talking out of your arse again with your tiresome agenda.
Hull has no quality in their team, and they started the campaign with 17 or so players. They gave him no money to improve on that. On quality and numbers they are right there with a midtable Championship club.
SAF kept overachieving in any club he lead from St Mirren to Aberdeen. Jose did pretty much the same thing at União de Leiria which ended up attracting the attention of Porto. Antonio Conte took Bari out of relegation zone in the Serie B to Serie A promotion. He did pretty much the same thing with Siena, which then attracted Juventus attention.
There are cases where managers were handled a top club from day 1 but these cases are somehow rare. Most had to grind their way to the top, working with teams much worse then Hull and with far less money. No one expected Phelan to win the treble with Hull. However, if he's truly a good manager, then he should have overachieved with them. That's how many top managers became that way.
He is neither Fergie, not Mourinho. He did an okay job considering the circumstances.
It was a club that people predicted will get less points than any other club in the history of EPL. They were/are in a terrible state and will be relegated regardless of the manager.
Btw, Fergie got sacked from St Mirren.
You literally have no idea how good/bad is Phelan as a manager, no one does, but just because he is former United man you are glad he's sacked. Actually, I have seen comments from many non United fans on this news that he didn't do a bad job at all, and that he deserves better chance somewhere else.
You are one of the most miserable fans I have seen on United boards, why do you act always like that towards players/staff that have been here over our most successful periods I have no idea.
You are now literally blaming Phelan for not doing Fergie, Jose or Conte - 1. one of the best managers ever, 2. probably the best manager 2000s, 3. and one of the best managers of this generation. Incredible.
SAF wasn't the Sir Alex Ferguson when he was at St Mirren. I dare to say that the SAF in his last years with us wasn't even the SAF we enjoyed during the treble. He had mellowed alot by then, he became more tactical but he also lost most of his ruthlessness and hunger. Young SAF who sold Incey to make way to a young Scholes would probably smack old SAF who insisted on 40 years especially since he had a mega talented Pogba sitting on the bench. I can say the same about Mourinho. Anyway people change, so I would never say for certain that Phelan or anybody really will never be a top manager. Who knows what the future reserve?
Hence why I disagree with managers who retreat to punditry like some cowards after 1 bad stint. If I was a championship side owner Id rather give Gaz the job now when he's bruised and know what the job entails rather then when he was considered the new Pep by clueless fans and media alike. Experience change people and rookie mistakes are normal. SAF, Mourinho, Simeone...all these people got sacked in their early stage of career.
Two things pisses me off though
a- this obsession of going for top jobs. Its less relevant for Phelan who carried his share of dirty work but it still apply for the class of 92 who seem only interested for top jobs. Its stupid for both parties really. Its stupid for the club as a rookie should never lead an EPL side and its stupid for the manager who needs to make his mistakes away from the limelight
b- this obsession to always defend the manager. Phelan knew what the job entails, he knew it was going to be tough and he's being paid handsomely well to do well. Id say the same with Mourinho. He knew that kicking a hornet's nest at Chelsea by asking new talent to replace the old guard could turn sour unless managed properly. He failed to do so and that costed him the job. Is that fair? Maybe not but the buck stops with the manager.
erm....where have I said that I am glad that he was sacked?
You are now literally blaming Phelan for not doing Fergie, Jose or Conte - 1. one of the best managers ever, 2. probably the best manager 2000s, 3. and one of the best managers of this generation. Incredible.
erm where I am blaming Phelan for not doing Fergie, Jose or Conte - 1 * 2 /34?
1) You managed to make a thread that has nothing to do with class of 92, into a thread about class of 92. Kudos!
2) Phelan is quite experienced and he took by far the worst side in the league. It is hardly Guardiola getting a championship club. Hull's job is not a top job, it is actually a quite low job.
I was replying to those who keep on making excuses about his sack. Managers manage period. If they fail to reach expectations they have to carry the responsibility for it. Its that simple.
I don't think that there's any low job in the EPL TBH. FFS there's a CL winner managing in the championship
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At best they can get half a starting eleven team that are PL quality if all fit. The rest of them simply aren't good enough for this league. Then you look at their strikers and no wonder goals are hard to find. No chance you'll survive with that, no matter the manager.
Yes. And at times they get sacked for not doing miracles. Which in majority of cases harm the club more than if they let the manager continue.
The problem of Hull is not Phelan, but the owners. Same about Valencia as was shown by Prandelli.