Alternative doesn't necessarily equate to better or funnier, though. It's not the fact that Lee's a bit different that makes me dislike him, it's the fact that I don't think he's very funny.
Michael McIntyre vs Stewart Lee
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Alternative doesn't necessarily equate to better or funnier, though. It's not the fact that Lee's a bit different that makes me dislike him, it's the fact that I don't think he's very funny.
You mistook the intent of my post. I was responding to someone stating that "if that's what Lee's stand-up consists of, I'll stick to McIntyre", or smth to that effect. I meant to imply that if he thinks he can extrapolate what Lee's comedy is about from a 30 min episode of his Comedy Vehicle, then he's been damaged by other comedians and their samey approach to comedy.
Any other implications were unintended or the figment of your imagination.
Silly me. It's obvious now you mention it.
It does have that effect, to be fair.
If only the people who read the Daily Mail used their time better, they could get near the 110/115 charity gigs a year that Stewart Lee does.
I don't know how anyone can have a go at someone like Stewart Lee, doing 120-130 charity gigs a year is worth some slack?
I'm sure Stewart Lee was preparing for one of his 140-150 charity shows a year as he wrote that.
I went to 150-160 of his charity gigs last year! Still didn't find him that amusing.
Charity's a load of bollocks, to be fair. Make your own money, you scrounging, homeless Biafrans.
All very well Brophs, regardless of the effects, the goodwill in doing over 150 - 170 charity shows a year is not to be dismissed.
You're all cnuts.
Terry Christian's let himself go.
Yet still finds time to do 170-180 charity gigs a year.
Most of those references went over my head, not being a Brit and all, but I made do with Leo DiCaprio and Morrisey having let themselves go
No, I just find don't find Stewart Lee even remotely funny.
Bizarre, since your posts make it seem like you've never watched anything Stewart Lee has ever done.
You must have misunderstood the meaning of the word if in my sentence. What I've seen of him does not amuse me.
Ah
You seem to be inferring from Cassius' post on the context of one point that you objected that you prolly prefer McIntyre to him. Either you've been fibbing a fair bit or you're making a judgement on Stewart Lee based on a strongly condensed summary of one of his episodes of the Comedy Vehicle... after which you fibbed.
At any rate you're being a bit rubbish.
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...and not too good at reading comprehension... that post wasn't aimed at you.
Bizarre that you've waded in without thinking. When I entered this debate I watched some of his You Tube clips to see if I could see what other people were seeing. I didn't. Like I said if 'jokes' like his charity gig one are an indication of the wider quality of his work I'd prefer McIntyre.
I never pretended to have a wide knowledge of his work but what I've seen I don't find funny and based on what was supposed to be a witty article. Maybe I should give him more time to see if he grows on me bt I don't really want to work to enjoy somebody. Ultimately your point is a little bit rubbish.
So like any good footballer the key to finding out their work is to watch youtube, when has youtube been heavily edited to a channel's taste eh?
You should probably go back and read the post again.
No, you pretended to have no knowledge and that you could infer from somebody's summary that you wouldn't enjoy his stand-up... Or at least so it seemed.
Secondly, the article didn't seem to be all about getting you to roar with laughter, but rather to expose shambolic shoddy writing for what it was.
At least that's how I read it.
I'll take your second to last point on faith; no doubt you'd rather not strain your grey matter.
lol no u.
What a horrible comparison. Really poor work. A joke is either funny or not, or hav they edited out th punchlines?
"Either a librarian is funny, or he isn't... and he isn't a funny librarian"
Actually it's quite apt, without watching a full show you pick up very little, Lee for instance often builds up a show leading to a crescendo at the end, just the end will not seem that funny on its own, neither will the build up when on it's own. A full show on the other hand is fantastic stuff.
No pretending was required. I was honest with the fact that I wasn't fully qualified to judge and said if that is an indication of the kind of joke he does I would stick with McIntyre. The very important word there is if. That should give you all the clues you need. I don't need to have seen a lot of his work to state I don't find him funny. How often do you watch somebody you don't find funny?
You still don't seem to understand you referenced me in your post and failed to understand what the word if means. If you want to keep talking about others grey matter then be my guest.
I'll take your word for it. Again if jokes abcutoff ruth gigs are the kind of crescendo you're referring to I'll probably give it a miss. Some comedians can have a recurrig theme that builds while being funny in between.
"If" means that you didn't have enough knowledge about his show to say otherwise, so you went by his summary of a show to extrapolate what his shows are generally like.
I don't watch somebody I don't find funny again if they seem to lack nuance... if there's nuance and if the build-up of the show might have a central theme or a thought out change of pace or a crescendo to build to, which are all useful tools for a comedian looking to be more than just a jester, knocking out one-liner after one-liner, then I might be more patient.
KD Lang's let himself go
I met Michael McIntyre when he was recording Desert Island Discs. He was a top bloke, who complimented me on my manners, before greeting Kirsty Young with a proper kiss on the cheek. I got him some orange juice, and he thanked me. Just sticking that out there.
The lead singer of UB40's let himself go.
Darren Clarke's let himself go
You're still struggling with the meaning of the word if. I never judged the quality of his full show, I said if that was an indication of it's quality. If it isn't then that's fair enough. What I've seen hasn't left me wanting to watch a full show as I haven't found him funny.
Again if you don't understand what this means then I can't help you. I can judge if I find somebody funny based on what I've seen. Just as you seem able to do when you've admitted you won't watch somebody again if you don't find them funny.
There are an awful lot of people who seem completely unable sit back and say "I don't really like Stewart Lee" like they would with most other things, but instead simply have to trot out lines about him being "smug" or "arrogant", and his fans not really finding him funny but instead putting on some show to prove how high-brow they are, via their taste in comedians. To be frank, when I want to pretend to be intelligent I talk about my taste in philosophy or opera, but maybe I'm just missing a trick and stand-up is the real indicator of high culture. I'm annoyed you lot ran the chairty gigs joke into the ground, I really wanted in on it...
Ratko Mladic's let himself go
Further to the point about Stewart Lee fans 'faking it', as it were, I've loved Stewart lee since I was 11 years old, because of TMWRNJ. I guess I was just trying to impress all the other year 6 kids with how highbrow I was...yeah?
I think there is something about Stewart Lee that rubs people the wrong way. He doesn't make a good first impression and he isn't the Peter Kay type you want to laugh with. When I was first exposed to his stand-up my initial reaction was disapproving, perhaps I reacted hastily against what I initially dismissed as pretentious liberal nonsense.
That was my initial reaction but in my experience he's a comedian that seriously grows on you. I enjoy his deconstruction of stand up, having watched my fair share I understand the references and the points he make ring true with me. Personally there are few comedians whose work I would rather watch, in terms of stand-up he's a unique talent amidst an army of poor man's Jerry Seinfelds.
That was my initial reaction but in my experience he's a comedian that seriously grows on you. I enjoy his deconstruction of stand up, having watched my fair share I understand the references and the points he make ring true with me. Personally there are few comedians whose work I would rather watch, in terms of stand-up he's a unique talent amidst an army of poor man's Jerry Seinfelds.
Pedantic semantics... When people say what you said, they usually mean "from this sample I gather it's not worth my time". If you really meant "if" like you say, and are going to have a go at getting to like Stewart Lee and looking up more of his material, then fair play... If not then you've effectively done what I thought you to mean by that sentence, you've made a judgement call based on a tiny sample from a second-hand source.
That's all I meant.