If he carries on like this it would make great sense as he perfectly fits fa's no thrills type manager that won't bring any scandals to their doorstep and is well respected for what he achieved as a player.Next England manager right here.
Were they 22nd when MC took over? Or was it 23rd. Now 5th. Really pleased for him
Old United connection for the Birmingham goal too - Tahith Chong, who seems to be doing well for them this season.
On the England thing: Southgate’s previous proper managerial gig was for Middlesbrough? Seem to remember he was Doing well despite being thrown in at the deep end, and then Gibson had a bit of a panic and replaced him causing them to fall out of the playoff spots. Selling their best player in Adam Johnson (yeah, the ex city fiddler) obviously didn’t help.
He got Middlesbrough relegated in the first place tbf
I'm not sure about him being 'stitched up' at Boro tbh - it was a squad of strong, experienced personalities and Southgate couldn't lead them out of the trouble. The bulk of the team got to the UEFA cup final under McClaren as I recall.
Again, memory is sketchy but the whole spine of the team left, including himself, and was never adequately replaced. The replacement of the forwards was disastrous. Hasselbaink, Yakubu and Viduka were replaced by Mido and the Turkish fellar whose name I’ve forgotten, made Carragher look daft one match if I remember rightly. My old fellar is a Middlesbrough fan since the 40s/50s and I went to many games in the late 80s early 90s, don’t think I know or have met many boro gabs who blame Southgate. Rumour was Gibson realised he could no longer financially compete so was having a reset. He’s done it a few times!
Carrick wasn’t in charge when the loan took place initially, and it’s never the best idea to reloan a player in the same season (see Ethan Laird going from Swansea’s main player to barely playing after January with Bournemouth).Isn’t it better to loan Hannibal to Boro instead?
Since we never see him, yeah perhaps not.Carrick wasn’t in charge when the loan took place initially, and it’s never the best idea to reloan a player in the same season (see Ethan Laird going from Swansea’s main player to barely playing after January with Bournemouth).
I think there was some links for Iqbal to go to Boro on loan, but it sounds like we’ll be keeping him around for the full season to train with the senior squad and such. (Not the best idea, in my opinion)
Obviously wasn't the problem. Players respected and played their hearts our for him to the final day. Was gobsmacked that the goldbridge gang were laying into him. If only he had a season with ETH to aid in his coaching development. Such is life.
Yep we should have.Obviously not doing his credentials as ten Hag's eventual successor any harm! We would have been fine if he had stayed on for the rest of the season instead of hiring that fecking fraud Wreck-It Ralf.
Yep we should have.
I completely understood we needed to get another manager for the last 6 months to fight for 4th. But I thought they’d hire an actual manager. If they had Ralf in mind, they were better off sticking with Carrick
Yep we should have.
I completely understood we needed to get another manager for the last 6 months to fight for 4th. But I thought they’d hire an actual manager. If they had Ralf in mind, they were better off sticking with Carrick
Dunno about that. Our board are really really dumb. If Carrick did well they’d probably have given him the Job full time as he’s a United legend and all that. Great to see him doing well though.Yep we should have.
I completely understood we needed to get another manager for the last 6 months to fight for 4th. But I thought they’d hire an actual manager. If they had Ralf in mind, they were better off sticking with Carrick
Yep we should have.
I completely understood we needed to get another manager for the last 6 months to fight for 4th. But I thought they’d hire an actual manager. If they had Ralf in mind, they were better off sticking with Carrick
This forum was very guilty of that. And it pre dates any voices on Twitter.Too many toxic voices, especially one on YouTube, constantly poisoning the well talking badly of Carrick and McKenna for him to have even got a chance.
Goldbridge and co ranting to make a few quids was expected. It was actually Scholes and Keane on TV that disappointed me the most that time.Too many toxic voices, especially one on YouTube, constantly poisoning the well talking badly of Carrick and McKenna for him to have even got a chance.
Not really. There were plenty on here who found the notion of the coaching staff being even remotely responsible for the team’s woes absurd, and said so repeatedly.This forum was very guilty of that. And it pre dates any voices on Twitter.
Yeah. I love Scholes and Keane, but that’s appalling.Goldbridge and co ranting to make a few quids was expected. It was actually Scholes and Keane on TV that disappointed me the most that time.
I rated them while they were here, McKenna especially was an extremely highly rated coach. They’re doing well now at their respective clubs BUT they could easily have been part of the problem. More because they were both quite young and inexperienced coaches under a not too great manager. There were rumours the players thought McKenna was too ‘school masterly’ etc - ETH is the same but he has the gravitas - our players were rotten and up their own arses but they needed someone to come into to lay down the law of the land. Now they’re both managers at lower league clubs they can command ultimate respect, but they couldn’t when managing United under Ole.Both Carrick and McKenna seem to be doing pretty well at their respective clubs, so they certainly have some knowledge of football. The problem within the set up was obviously not those two.
I haven't looked at Goldbridge's site for a year or so, I find him quite irritating.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on that. It dates back to Phelan himself under Fergie, through Phil Neville, Ryan Giggs and on. Whining about our coaching staff has been an ongoing theme on here.Not really. There were plenty on here who found the notion of the coaching staff being even remotely responsible for the team’s woes absurd, and said so repeatedly.
The number slagging off Carrick and McKenna was very small, and there were widespread rumours that those two tried to implement a progressive brand of football, but were thwarted by Phelan (and Ole, possibly).
Ole has been and is still being shamed here. It’s not a small number here picked out Carrick and McKenna at that time.Not really. There were plenty on here who found the notion of the coaching staff being even remotely responsible for the team’s woes absurd, and said so repeatedly.
The number slagging off Carrick and McKenna was very small, and there were widespread rumours that those two tried to implement a progressive brand of football, but were thwarted by Phelan (and Ole, possibly).