His endurance seemed to fall off a cliff midway through the 2nd. We were clearly lacking depth there today.
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In an ideal world he'd play once a week, we just have no cover for him atm.
Perhaps a tad controversial, but he should probably consider retiring from International football too.
Perhaps a tad controversial, but he should probably consider retiring from International football too.
It's amazing how much we still depend of his performance, he was class in the first half and we were dominating, but as soon as he slowed down we looked much worse.
Really need Blind to be fit so he can be rotated with Carrick and allow him a rest. Was a little slow on the ball a few times as he got fatigued. Still probably deserved an assist though, that ball to RvP was quality.
Hit a couple of excellent passes over the top, which is a good sign. Agreed that getting Blind back and having them rotate will be good for him.
Not sure if it can all be attributed to him but Eriksen totally pulled a Cleverley.
He should have stuck the fingers up to England and Hodgson years ago. Ridiculous he couldn't get in over Gareth Barry et al.
Agree completely.
Could be wrong but I thought he didn't play well after that tackle, its unlike him to stay down and he was down for about 30 seconds and after that he went missing.
his lack of pace and mobility drives me crazy, his positioning and crisp passing is good but his movement oh god.. The midfield didn't exist for another time and it was only poor Tottenham side. I know we played twice in 48 hours but so did others.. We can cope with him this season and Blind but I expect we buy someone better to this very important position and finally make the MOSt important replecement of all replacement after some years as I always thought we need mainly defensive minded midfielder.. Give carrick his 20matches per season where he is fully fit and he will excell. I think he would also be killer if he played as CB against some low table sides but I doubt starting him against high pressing teams such as Soton and other world class teams in midfield would be wise. When you see Matic in that blue shirt you are thinking about replacement because it is unreal how good he is, how much better he is than Blind and Carrick who should be backups for the top club which wants to win champions league one day soon.
Bizarre post. Have you forgotten the times we reached (and won) the UCL with that man Carrick in the side? Just because Blind and Carrick aren't as strong or crunching as Matic doesn't make them poor players. They're two of the very best holding midfielders in the league. Matic is currently wank-fest flavour of the month, but there's nothing he's doing at the minute that Carrick at his best would do. I don't know why people are disillusioned with this view that your defensive midfielder must be a massive unit who solely tackles and imposes himself. Intercepting, reading and recycling play are just as important, and the two we have are the very best at it in the league. Plus, they fit the philosophy, so if you're not happy with them, you better be ready for a player in the same ilk to replace.
I thought Carrick mobility is an huge issue, but now I’ve changed my mind. With right players around him, and better movement (surely we’ve already improved in that regard) he will blossom.
Comparing Matic to Carrick of old makes no sense at all though, he’s 34 now and we can’t expect him to do the same amount of running as he used to do in our glory days. That’s a mistake Moyes did IMO, and that’s why Carrick looked so shit last year- too much was demanded from him.
Yeah, I guess that part of my post was a bit suspect. But still, I retain that he and Blind are good enough for competing. We're quite far from UCL challenging but there's quite a few position that need amendments first.
this is what Matic does also and I would say that he is even better at this than Carrick. You are living in the past.. Shall we play Fletcher than who sadly missed out on the final but helped hugely to get there? I only say to keep our standards high not okay which both players are - OKAY. I say it again midfield has been the biggest problem for us past 3 years or more and Carrick being the best midfielder says it all. Not all the players need to be world class of course. but we have too many pllyers that rely on other players to supplement them. Blind is suddenly someone extraordinary, yes comparing him to Anderson, Cleverley or Gibson yes he is, but to the top bracket... Which of top teams around the world does have worse holding midfielders than us? None.. Look at Arsenal they have got Flamini, Arteta, similar bracket to Blind/Carrick and they play for fourth year after year. Not that this is their only problem but surely they need to strenghten at this position more than anywhere else.. We are really not 2008 mate .-)
Are you seriously stating that Carrick and Blind aren't better than Flamini and Arteta?
I'd take Carrick and Blind over Fernando too.
they are quite the same level, Flamini is really underated , I think I've seen a lot of Arsenal games this year and he isn't that bad. Arteta didn't have the best season last campaign but neither had carrcik who really highlight season came the last fergies season two season before that he was quite average but yeah everybody will claim that he was in the shadow of Scholes.. And Arteta was brilliant from the time he arrived there, after all he is the captain now.. Well maybe it is time get back to reality, time to burst that United bubble and look out of the box a little, don't you think? or maybe thisAre you seriously stating that Carrick and Blind aren't better than Flamini and Arteta?
I'd take Carrick and Blind over Fernando too.
is better I know.. Fernando is completely different player from both of them but I think he does the job really well so does fernandinho and their game seems pretty much faster and secure at the back due to their anchoring, but they have different approach to this.. do you really not have any other examples to compare? but maybe don't even try, I guess we are done here then.. good day and at least think about it .-)Ah the new flavour of the month - Nemanja Matić..
they are quite the same level, Flamini is really underated , I think I've seen a lot of Arsenal games this year and he isn't that bad. Arteta didn't have the best season last campaign but neither had carrcik who really highlight season came the last fergies season two season before that he was quite average but yeah everybody will claim that he was in the shadow of Scholes.. And Arteta was brilliant from the time he arrived there, after all he is the captain now.. Well maybe it is time get back to reality, time to burst that United bubble and look out of the box a little, don't you think? or maybe this
1. Blind and Carrick vs Flamini and Arteta is a no contest
2. Fernandinho has been shite for the majority of the season
actually no they are only overrated by their fans(United) and it goes the same within the other clubs. I believe you didn't even watched them play(the other players) and live in this United bubble. The emoticon you used actually tells a lot about you and your stance where you don't even accept the possibility of being wrong or think about other options but for some people life is easier like that and I think I would waste my time explaining you anything while you wouldn't be even listening. But I was almost like that when I was younger so don't worry it will change..
1. Blind and Carrick vs Flamini and Arteta is a no contest
2. Fernandinho has been shite for the majority of the season
they are quite the same level, Flamini is really underated , I think I've seen a lot of Arsenal games this year and he isn't that bad. Arteta didn't have the best season last campaign but neither had carrcik who really highlight season came the last fergies season two season before that he was quite average but yeah everybody will claim that he was in the shadow of Scholes.. And Arteta was brilliant from the time he arrived there, after all he is the captain now.. Well maybe it is time get back to reality, time to burst that United bubble and look out of the box a little, don't you think? or maybe this
No he is not, hes fecking shite!
Yeah, Flamini's gash. Was quite good in his first stint with Arsenal but piss poor this season. Something even die-hard gooners would agree with.
Can't believe people are saying that Carrick is on the level with Flamini. The Flamini from the 07-08 season?
Flamini's more mobile and puts himself about but he's fecking gash on the ball and a liability.
Flamini's more mobile and puts himself about but he's fecking gash on the ball and a liability.
If you say so mate.
Oh come on, stop being so patronising, you're the guy who said that Zaha's performance against us this season was shit.
they are quite the same level, Flamini is really underated , I think I've seen a lot of Arsenal games this year and he isn't that bad. Arteta didn't have the best season last campaign but neither had carrcik who really highlight season came the last fergies season two season before that he was quite average but yeah everybody will claim that he was in the shadow of Scholes.. And Arteta was brilliant from the time he arrived there, after all he is the captain now.. Well maybe it is time get back to reality, time to burst that United bubble and look out of the box a little, don't you think? or maybe this
Even Arsenal fans would laugh at you for saying that.
Should have said the same about Cleverley and maybe I shall say this about Keane too once we play Burnley and then maybe it will take a couple of weeks and some people will get it, come on it's so obvious, you don't mean it right? :-)
btw I am not being any sarcastic in my posts in this thread
I believe your reaction was dedicated to me as I mentioned Flamini and Carrick in one post but never compared the two between themselves. I rather compared Falmini to Blind who is obviously Pirlo sright away here... and Carrick to Arteta even they are very different players they mean about the same to their teams in terms of performances. I gave an example of Arsenal because I think they are one of the "big teams who doesn't sorted out their holding midfielder position, That is what their fans are calling for some time after Song's departure even he wasn't really a holding midfielder. I didn't say by no means that Carrick is worse than Flamini, they are completely different players, but both do their jobs right for their teams. Maybe that is why Flamini played the most minutes for the team from all midfielders. Maybe they don't have any more players for the position but neither we have...
Blind + Carrick = Arteta + Flamini, more or less in terms of performance and neither couple is good enough for the very top club which wants to win the champions league. I don't believe Real Madrid would play or depend on 34 old carrick or Blind who is really overrated here. Neither would Bayern or Barcelona depend on them and pick them as their NO1 option. I believe we bought blind as there were no other options in the market that's why he came in so late. Carrick should play like 20-25 games a season to give his everything not to start every game. Both could do the right job with the right players around them but I would rather find someone who we want to build on and who will get the players around him better.. Flamini is doing pretty good job considering their defense is shite and he is the only defensive minded player in their midfield and as you stated he is mobile, can stuck in, but I don't agree he is liability on the ball. It's called dirty job and not everyone can see this or rate this, and every player is quite different in this particular position as holding/deep laying midfielder..
but I guess this is all useless as I am on Michael Carrick's fanpage where everyone can only see him doing it right and the way it is
I believe your reaction was dedicated to me as I mentioned Flamini and Carrick in one post but never compared the two between themselves. I rather compared Falmini to Blind who is obviously Pirlo sright away here... and Carrick to Arteta even they are very different players they mean about the same to their teams in terms of performances. I gave an example of Arsenal because I think they are one of the "big teams who doesn't sorted out their holding midfielder position, That is what their fans are calling for some time after Song's departure even he wasn't really a holding midfielder. I didn't say by no means that Carrick is worse than Flamini, they are completely different players, but both do their jobs right for their teams. Maybe that is why Flamini played the most minutes for the team from all midfielders. Maybe they don't have any more players for the position but neither we have...
Blind + Carrick = Arteta + Flamini, more or less in terms of performance and neither couple is good enough for the very top club which wants to win the champions league. I don't believe Real Madrid would play or depend on 34 old carrick or Blind who is really overrated here. Neither would Bayern or Barcelona depend on them and pick them as their NO1 option. I believe we bought blind as there were no other options in the market that's why he came in so late. Carrick should play like 20-25 games a season to give his everything not to start every game. Both could do the right job with the right players around them but I would rather find someone who we want to build on and who will get the players around him better.. Flamini is doing pretty good job considering their defense is shite and he is the only defensive minded player in their midfield and as you stated he is mobile, can stuck in, but I don't agree he is liability on the ball. It's called dirty job and not everyone can see this or rate this, and every player is quite different in this particular position as holding/deep laying midfielder..
but I guess this is all useless as I am on Michael Carrick's fanpage where everyone can only see him doing it right and the way it is
There is a very good reason why most Arsneal fans have been calling for Wenger to sign a real DM for a few seasons.
Can you tell me which Flamini you're watching? Flamini is an useless midfielder, he's rash, has no tactical awareness, can do nothing with the ball and in top matches, he is never competent enough to do the job, how the heck can you compare him with Carrick? Arsenal are screaming for a new DM for years, that's not just a coincidence.I believe your reaction was dedicated to me as I mentioned Flamini and Carrick in one post but never compared the two between themselves. I rather compared Falmini to Blind who is obviously Pirlo sright away here... and Carrick to Arteta even they are very different players they mean about the same to their teams in terms of performances. I gave an example of Arsenal because I think they are one of the "big teams who doesn't sorted out their holding midfielder position, That is what their fans are calling for some time after Song's departure even he wasn't really a holding midfielder. I didn't say by no means that Carrick is worse than Flamini, they are completely different players, but both do their jobs right for their teams. Maybe that is why Flamini played the most minutes for the team from all midfielders. Maybe they don't have any more players for the position but neither we have...
Blind + Carrick = Arteta + Flamini, more or less in terms of performance and neither couple is good enough for the very top club which wants to win the champions league. I don't believe Real Madrid would play or depend on 34 old carrick or Blind who is really overrated here. Neither would Bayern or Barcelona depend on them and pick them as their NO1 option. I believe we bought blind as there were no other options in the market that's why he came in so late. Carrick should play like 20-25 games a season to give his everything not to start every game. Both could do the right job with the right players around them but I would rather find someone who we want to build on and who will get the players around him better.. Flamini is doing pretty good job considering their defense is shite and he is the only defensive minded player in their midfield and as you stated he is mobile, can stuck in, but I don't agree he is liability on the ball. It's called dirty job and not everyone can see this or rate this, and every player is quite different in this particular position as holding/deep laying midfielder..
but I guess this is all useless as I am on Michael Carrick's fanpage where everyone can only see him doing it right and the way it is
I wouldn't bother bringing Flamini to Old Trafford, if offered that option, even as a squad man. He's just not the same player he once was and for Arsenal us as much a liability as an asset.
To in any way equate Flamini and Carrick is ridiculous.
Carrick has been worked pretty hard and needs some rest. Ideally, we'd bring in a solid box to box man in January who can give us that option. I'm good with Blind, but he's not where Carrick is just yet.
To in any way equate Flamini and Carrick is ridiculous.
Carrick has been worked pretty hard and needs some rest. Ideally, we'd bring in a solid box to box man in January who can give us that option. I'm good with Blind, but he's not where Carrick is just yet.
Stoke 1:1 Man Utd
Looked tired again. Really hope we see Blind soon.
He was average today, and that was probably because of fatigue. Hope we can have some Blind return so we can give him some rest.
I thought so as well, it's difficult at his age to be thrown in at the deep end immediately after an injury at the busiest time of the season, he didn't get a chance to ease back into the team with Blind's injury and then all the other CM's getting injured around him.
Thought he looked tired and average too. Wish Blind was back.
It's not easy being the only midfielder in the starting line-up.
He's just so laboured in possession at times. Far too slow.
I'd rather we played them both to be fair, though I agree Carrick does need a rest.
Man Utd 0:1 Southampton
Thats got to be the worst he's played in years. I can't ever remember his passing being so off.
Was crap for the goal too.
Was crap for the goal too.
Was terrible today. Misplaced a lot of passes.
He was very poor today but I don't think it helps him having to fill one for one of our 3 centre backs every time they run down a blind alley. It's a waste of our best passer.
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