Hasnt been perticularly good in all the top matches so far except Liverpool , twice vs Southampton, off vs Spurs and off the pace vs Arsenal.
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He was definitely off today. I can't help but wonder if he could use a short break, particularly given how important he will be later in the season.
Agreed and with Blind back he should be given some time off to rest. He has been playing a lot since coming back from injury and he isn't getting any younger so some time off will do him good.
Didnt play badly but he slows us down.
I think his presence this season has been overstated. He's not playing badly but I haven't been all too impressed. I think his return and our unbeaten run was actually something of a small coincidence, something that could have been achieved had, let's say, Blind played ahead of him all that time instead.
With that said, he's played reasonably well this season in a horrible formation. If he had some pace ahead of him and some players to link up with then I think he would be even better. Blind, Herrera and Di Maria could build good relationships with him if Van Gaal allowed it to happen.
With that said, he's played reasonably well this season in a horrible formation. If he had some pace ahead of him and some players to link up with then I think he would be even better. Blind, Herrera and Di Maria could build good relationships with him if Van Gaal allowed it to happen.
Q.P.R. 0:2 Man Utd
Hasn't looked right the last few games, very lethargic and not really getting into the games much.
Needs a bit of rest. He has played every minute since his injury comeback besides a 30 minute break against Newcastle.
Did okay, but looks tired. With Blind back, I hope he gets a rest soon.
This 3-5-2 is pathetic for him, he can play the central defender but it makes no sense to have 3 defenders behind him because he is not young enough to be pressing from the front. We end up playing incredibly deep rather than putting pressure on the other team
It's verging on pointless having Carrick sit in front of 3 centre backs.
Sure, he appears when Evans et al go missing but it doesn't allow for the passing he is capable of because we are literally just knocking it about with little purpose. And trying to play balls into Di Maria's feet with his back to goal against bigger and stronger players, again verging on pointless.
Sure, he appears when Evans et al go missing but it doesn't allow for the passing he is capable of because we are literally just knocking it about with little purpose. And trying to play balls into Di Maria's feet with his back to goal against bigger and stronger players, again verging on pointless.
Cambridge 0:0 Man Utd
Very dissapointed with him today. Cold and windy night against a lower league side who gives 100%...THESE are the games your veteran players should grab by the neck and take control over. Except one good pass, he did nothing else besides pass it sideways and hide from the ball.
I'd like to see Blind returned to the #6 role next game and just see how we do with a more urgent player at the base.
Don't think Carrick could do much more tonight. Movement in front of him was very poor and centre midfielders played way too high up. Blind wouldn't have done anything different.
He's been average this season. He looks pretty much the same as he did last season.
He's good at those drilled balls along the ground to the front men, a few more wouldn't go a miss. Show Jones and Rojo what a ball over the top is supposed to looks like. He can do more than he is when we're camped outside the oppositions half like tonight.
He's good at those drilled balls along the ground to the front men, a few more wouldn't go a miss. Show Jones and Rojo what a ball over the top is supposed to looks like. He can do more than he is when we're camped outside the oppositions half like tonight.
I would really appreciate if Mr Consistency was used as squad player ffs, not as the key player who he is not for a long time and never was apart the last fergies season where he was brilliant and deserved that chant with Scholeses name included, I admit..
but I strongly suggest we finally invest some money in great defensive midfielder or use the ones we have in a more defensive shape, Real doesn't need one also, why shouldn't we try to play with Herrera (he looks much more solid and accurate in his tackles than Fellaini) and di maria in midfield, Blind is about okay but still no world class defensive minded midfielder in club like Manchester United. I am very sceptical about it.. That Lucas Silva is a bargain imo, we will see soon, Schneiderlin, Strootman, even Wanyama would improve us massively.
But well maybe there was really no one availible on the market in the summer considering we bought another future back up option in Blind in last few days of the window, maybe we are waiting for strootman but I don't think it is good enough state right now.. It is as big problem as our ageing overrated attack or our unstable error prone and injury prone defense. Hopefully we will asses this soon because I can't imagine us outplaying any of the big teams atm let alone clubs like Soton which are dozens around the world... with what we lined up today - 34 yo legless Carrick included..
but I strongly suggest we finally invest some money in great defensive midfielder or use the ones we have in a more defensive shape, Real doesn't need one also, why shouldn't we try to play with Herrera (he looks much more solid and accurate in his tackles than Fellaini) and di maria in midfield, Blind is about okay but still no world class defensive minded midfielder in club like Manchester United. I am very sceptical about it.. That Lucas Silva is a bargain imo, we will see soon, Schneiderlin, Strootman, even Wanyama would improve us massively.
But well maybe there was really no one availible on the market in the summer considering we bought another future back up option in Blind in last few days of the window, maybe we are waiting for strootman but I don't think it is good enough state right now.. It is as big problem as our ageing overrated attack or our unstable error prone and injury prone defense. Hopefully we will asses this soon because I can't imagine us outplaying any of the big teams atm let alone clubs like Soton which are dozens around the world... with what we lined up today - 34 yo legless Carrick included..
The worst I've seen Carrick in a few years. Weird, his worst performance came against Cambridge United. He was obviously not fit. After 3-4 horrible first touches and passes (!!) by him he lost courage and wouldn't come for the ball or make himself available, causing Jones and Rojo having to bomb forward. He should have been subbed, but simply because he didn't look sharp to me. Having said that, his one pass almost won us the game...
That ball for Falcao.Didn't have his best day but he was marked hard and crowded out. Cambridge left Jones open to bring the ball out so Carrick couldn't get on it. He just couldn't get the space to turn and look up the field. Poor day but credit to Cambridge for marking him out of the match and leaving Jones free to try start attacks which didn't work for us and worked for them.
But Carrick is better than all of those players...
on this forum and in this particular thread, of course, overrated player by united fans at the end of his playing days. Some people will never wake up
He'll go down as one of our club's best ever midfielders, certainly one of the most decorated. A mainstay in our team during the most successful period in our history. I suggest you are the one that needs to wake up.
I don't say he had a bad career at United, not at all he was great. He was consistent, professional long-serving midfielder, I just don't think he was never even close to world-class say Scholes brackett in terms of ability (and I know he was a different type of player), in terms of personality and career he will definitely be there, I don't argue with you but I just don't rate him as footballer as highly as other united fans which are simply biased. And all I wanted to say is that we shouldn't consider him as the player who we build a new-era team around. Next year when we should be competing for the premier league title and good run in the champions league. He will be 35 and the next season 36 and not even now he is up to the tempo of mid table clubs like Soton. We should have a replacement for him a long time ago, that is all.
While he may have dropped off he is certainly better than Wanyama. Probably needs a squad role though. I'd like to see Blind get another go in that position.
He's had a few poor games, it can happen to everyone. And he's certainly been one of our best players over the past decade and one of Fersuson's most successful signings ever, there's no need to start that debate again.
First things first, he will always have my respect because he was thrown in at the deep end by Sir Alex from day one. He was chosen to replace a player with completely different skills and attributes who could cover a lot of yards on the pitch with his running and stamina. Carrick, while not mobile or physical enough, was asked to cover the same areas on the pitch as Keane and he quickly adopted to that role. He was an integral part of our 2006-07 team that played some fantastic football in England and in Europe. It's really a shame that he had to wait till 2013 to finally get some recognition among United fans when it was obvious that he was trying to hold our midfield together all by himself.
There's no point comparing him to Wanyama or Schneiderlin either because they are different players who can offer different things on the pitch. In a possession based football team the best role for a holding midfielder like Carrick is at the base of a reverted triangle (or diamond) with two box to box midfielders slightly ahead of him. Two midfielders who, during the build up phase, are comfortable enough to get on the ball in deeper positions and carry it forwards but also able to push opposition players away from our half with their off the ball movement.
Unfortunately, we don't have the players who can operate as deep lying play makers. The closest we have to that is Herrera, who is quick and quite physical, but he hasn't become familiar with the role yet. He used to play in more advanced positions in the midfield and you can see that he's still feeling nervous whenever he gets on the ball in front of our box. His first though is always to pass the ball and not keep it and run with it in order to open up spaces in the midfield. The same thing could be said about Di Maria, he had a more or less free role at RM in front of Modric and Alonso and now we're trying to turn him into Modric. And i don't even want to discuss Rooney being utilized in that role
In yesterday's game the box to box midfielders where Januzaj and Fellaini. Neither of them is a ball carrier and that resulted to Januzaj staying up and away from the midfield battle and Fellaini staying deep (but away from the ball) to provide cover. We actually had Carrick-Fellaini in front of the back four with Januzaj and Di Maria ahead of them in an awkward 4-2-2-2 that made us look static and unimaginative.
Now, one can say that Carrick had a bad game yesterday because he saw a lot of the ball and he was provided with enough space to pick the right pass and all we can remember is that forward pass towards Falcao. Imo we must take into consideration that we had Januzaj, Di Maria, Valencia and Blind to do that. All they managed to achieve is a good pass for van Persie's chance (from AdM) and a nice one two between Januzaj and Blind.
My point is that you can't expect Carrick to play the superman role. He is a good distributor of the ball with exceptional positional awareness which means that he provides cover for the others to move forwards and can pick the right pass that will initiate an attacking play, but that's it. Yesterday, after the 30th minute we pretty much controlled the tempo, we had zero problems at the back and we could get our creative players on the ball in the attacking third. Of course Carrick won't get praise for that because it was only Cambridge but it's certainly not his fault that our WBs and CMs couldn't get past their markers or/and link well with the forwards.
We're pretty much covered in the holding CM position with Blind and Carrick, we just need to sign that one player who will be able to carry the ball and connect the lines.
First things first, he will always have my respect because he was thrown in at the deep end by Sir Alex from day one. He was chosen to replace a player with completely different skills and attributes who could cover a lot of yards on the pitch with his running and stamina. Carrick, while not mobile or physical enough, was asked to cover the same areas on the pitch as Keane and he quickly adopted to that role. He was an integral part of our 2006-07 team that played some fantastic football in England and in Europe. It's really a shame that he had to wait till 2013 to finally get some recognition among United fans when it was obvious that he was trying to hold our midfield together all by himself.
There's no point comparing him to Wanyama or Schneiderlin either because they are different players who can offer different things on the pitch. In a possession based football team the best role for a holding midfielder like Carrick is at the base of a reverted triangle (or diamond) with two box to box midfielders slightly ahead of him. Two midfielders who, during the build up phase, are comfortable enough to get on the ball in deeper positions and carry it forwards but also able to push opposition players away from our half with their off the ball movement.
Unfortunately, we don't have the players who can operate as deep lying play makers. The closest we have to that is Herrera, who is quick and quite physical, but he hasn't become familiar with the role yet. He used to play in more advanced positions in the midfield and you can see that he's still feeling nervous whenever he gets on the ball in front of our box. His first though is always to pass the ball and not keep it and run with it in order to open up spaces in the midfield. The same thing could be said about Di Maria, he had a more or less free role at RM in front of Modric and Alonso and now we're trying to turn him into Modric. And i don't even want to discuss Rooney being utilized in that role
In yesterday's game the box to box midfielders where Januzaj and Fellaini. Neither of them is a ball carrier and that resulted to Januzaj staying up and away from the midfield battle and Fellaini staying deep (but away from the ball) to provide cover. We actually had Carrick-Fellaini in front of the back four with Januzaj and Di Maria ahead of them in an awkward 4-2-2-2 that made us look static and unimaginative.
Now, one can say that Carrick had a bad game yesterday because he saw a lot of the ball and he was provided with enough space to pick the right pass and all we can remember is that forward pass towards Falcao. Imo we must take into consideration that we had Januzaj, Di Maria, Valencia and Blind to do that. All they managed to achieve is a good pass for van Persie's chance (from AdM) and a nice one two between Januzaj and Blind.
My point is that you can't expect Carrick to play the superman role. He is a good distributor of the ball with exceptional positional awareness which means that he provides cover for the others to move forwards and can pick the right pass that will initiate an attacking play, but that's it. Yesterday, after the 30th minute we pretty much controlled the tempo, we had zero problems at the back and we could get our creative players on the ball in the attacking third. Of course Carrick won't get praise for that because it was only Cambridge but it's certainly not his fault that our WBs and CMs couldn't get past their markers or/and link well with the forwards.
We're pretty much covered in the holding CM position with Blind and Carrick, we just need to sign that one player who will be able to carry the ball and connect the lines.
we've won some ugly matches with him back in the team. but we've not played great football.
This exactly, his comeback (whilst hes been good) has been so overhyped. Hes also had some poor games himself.
he hasn't been a force of change for attacking football. we've won and gained points but the footballs been dire. we as supporters don't get medals or trophies we get entertainment. which isn't happening. we are a bore fest and he's not the problem nor the solution so far. the dipper's game is an example. we scored 3 but DDG was MOTM because he had to stand on his head , if the had an in form striker we would have been beaten.
I don't think he will. Most decorated yes, but not one of the best. I think he will go down as the best of a bunch of players who were never quite the replacements for Scholes and Keane the club hoped they were.
Right now however I agree with others that is being overrated heavily on here. He is no longer capable of being the deep lying midfielder on his own.
I could of sworn his contract is up in the summer, can anyone confirm?
It is true. But i'm pretty sure LvG wants to give him a new one.
Needs to do it pretty soon!!
This. People need to understand that having a great career doesn't mean you are a great player. Carrick was a decent player but at the moment he is being massively overrated by us, United fans. Of course receiving praise by SAF will always bolster your reputation but SAF was sometimes, especially towards the end too loyal to his players even to a fault.
Pretty sure we can just trigger an extension, and he can do the same.
For me there's not much in between Carrick and Xabi Alonso in terms of quality. Now if you would say the same about Xabi, I would perhaps agree with you.
I think you underestimate the type of player that Carrick is. There is nothing deluded about saying he is a great player. Together with RvP he carried us to win the League in 12/13.
How long a contract will he be given? I doubt he's got more left in him than one more season at this level. Used to be extremely underrated and went to become quite overrated (SAF the latest example), I jumped on both bandwagons. He's a clever player with a great passing range. But like anyone at his age, he's getting on a bit and we could do with more dynamism in our midfield next season. A great option off the bench for next season and maybe that's it..
Our policy for players over 30 is to give them a 1 year contract. I agree he is starting to loose the last bit of mobility, but he is a great player to have in the squad.
Considering Blind is coming back from a knee injury, and Carrick himself is not long back from an injury, i'm surprised they have both played so many minutes recently. I'd prefer them to share the minutes at the base of the midfield.
Don't get me wrong, I believe Carrick is a good player but he is not a top or great player. Most of Carrick's and the rest of the players' performances in 12/13 were down to Fergie. He is a centre midfielder and he hasn't created much in the last couple of seasons-yes he has had some good moments especially against Chelsea in the CL but there were so many times our midfield our midfield was overrun and non-existant. It wasn't entirely his fault but he wasn't the type of player who would pull the strings either. And he is not a defensive midfielder, just remember all those times we moaned when Fergie used him in that role and begged for a real defensive midfielder.
Agree on this one. He is fine midfielder, with his limitations. Looks suberb when his role is to slow down play. Doesn’t look that good when we are trying to quicken things. But this year and last year we were asking him to do too much. It’s bizzare that he plays there on his own.
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