So touching (if Marquez touched Robben) the opponent's toe gives you the leeway to go down like an olympic diver? Robben well could have kept on going but no, slightest hint of contact = Instant penalty. I guess next time Ashley Young senses the opponent's toe touching his toe calling it a penalty should be entirely justified.
Mexico at World Cup 2014
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So touching (if Marquez touched Robben) the opponent's toe gives you the leeway to go down like an olympic diver? Robben well could have kept on going but no, slightest hint of contact = Instant penalty. I guess next time Ashley Young senses the opponent's toe touching his toe calling it a penalty should be entirely justified.
If he's smart: yeah.
Shame to see Mexico go, they were a quality side. Obviously as a Dutchman I'm happy with the outcome, but had it been a different match draw I'd liked to have seen Mexico in the tournament still. Some great football overall. Last night's weather conditions didn't do either side any favours.
Shame to see Mexico go, they were a quality side. Obviously as a Dutchman I'm happy with the outcome, but had it been a different match draw I'd liked to have seen Mexico in the tournament still. Some great football overall. Last night's weather conditions didn't do either side any favours.
He certainly made the most out of it but most players would have done the same thing. In the end it was a costly mistake by Marquez to put his foot down like that. The most remarkable thing about this entire discussion is that so many people forget that Holland were denied a stonewall penalty in the first half when Robben was kicked, not once but twice. The referee's position at that moment was very bad though but the linesman should have helped him. I thought the officials did a really poor job in general during yesterday's game by the way. Furthermore, I think we can all agree that Holland were bound to win after Sneijder's goal. Mexico were about to go into extra time with all their subs used and had just one striker on the pitch while Holland had outplayed them pretty much the entire second half, had a sub left and momentum on their side.
I've never said that Robben's theatrics are justified but the way in which he falls really has nothing to do with whether or not the incident warrants a penalty. Look, people need to face the music here. It was a bad challenge and in making the contact he does, way after the ball's gone, Robben was always going to go down to make sure of the penalty, especially after he was denied a stonewall pen in the first half. It's a penalty and if that was RVP going down from that contact, we'd all be saying it was a stonewaller. Stupid, stupid challenge. That's where Mexican ire should directed, not at Robben or the referee who had no option but to give the penalty.
Lads, if Ochoa doesn't win player of the tournament there's no justice. Three cheers for Ochoa !
You've sat and stewed over that a long time haven't you?
You shouldn't have bothered.
If you find offensive, me calling Jesus a zombie, as he is alleged to have risen from the dead, then you need to get over yourself. Not everyone places such importance on such things. Or is it the Jewish bit that prickled?
What the hell?
I really don't know what to say there. I should believe what I'm told because someone else believes it? Or just suspend my disbelief because of the importance to someone else?As for whether anybody should respect my views on religion, I really don't give a shit.
I used the analogy I did because it is a familiar one, and i felt comfortable using it to question, whether people think taking the piss of someone else's beliefs, might want to look at more common religious practise(perhaps their own), and consider at what point one becomes worthy of ridicule.
For the record, I'm not part of a plant-waving cult either.
Anyway, not hijacking the thread any further. If you want to get anything else off your chest, you can PM me. Although I can't promise that I'll get back to you.
Great tournament from him (though our commentators gave him more credit for not getting out of the way at times)
Herrera was the highlight of watching Mexico for me.
Terribly unlucky, and along with Costa Rica and Chile etc, they showed how little we get to know about the progress of other National teams.
Mention for Dos Santos too. I didn't think he could play football from what I saw of him in the Prem.
You've sat and stewed over that a long time haven't you?
You shouldn't have bothered.
If you find offensive, me calling Jesus a zombie, as he is alleged to have risen from the dead, then you need to get over yourself.
Not really and I do find your comment about Jesus offensive and won't be told by you where my sensitivities should lie. The fact that you continue to liken the Resurrection to zombification just demonstrates your mental age.
What you do and don't take seriously is your prerogative. The fact your responses demonstrate your hypocrisy and immaturity is another matter.
You are right not to be told where your sensitivities should lie, but don't expect me to care if you find what I say offensive.
You question my maturity, and yet you are the one defending the premise that a dead man came back to life and ascended to skies?
For your info I don't believe in zombies either.
I find your lack of support for the people in that video to be hypocritical. Not very Christian of you.
You question my maturity, and yet you are the one defending the premise that a dead man came back to life and ascended to skies?
For your info I don't believe in zombies either.
I find your lack of support for the people in that video to be hypocritical. Not very Christian of you.
robben dives and the ref takes the bait. never a penalty, marquez makes no contact on robben.
robben dives. if you can't see that, then you are clearly blind and biased. that was a never a penalty, marquez makes no contact.
First of all the penalty was a penalty. Also, in the first half Robben got hit twice at once in the box and nothing was given.
The sole reason the Mexicans lost yesterday was because they stopped playing.
They were clearly the better team until they scored. Had the kept playing the way they did I think they'd have convincingly beaten Holland and advanced.
Instead the invited the Dutch to attack and well.. eventually you will concede.
The sole reason the Mexicans lost yesterday was because they stopped playing.
They were clearly the better team until they scored. Had the kept playing the way they did I think they'd have convincingly beaten Holland and advanced.
Instead the invited the Dutch to attack and well.. eventually you will concede.
You are right not to be told where your sensitivities should lie, but don't expect me to care if you find what I say offensive.
You question my maturity, and yet you are the one defending the premise that a dead man came back to life and ascended to skies?
For your info I don't believe in zombies either.
I find your lack of support for the people in that video to be hypocritical. Not very Christian of you.
I question how well placed you are to determine just how Christian my response has or hasn't been.
How to show a fool his folly.
Alright. This is not going to get us anywhere. You refuse to see the obvious contact so I won't convince you and I won't continue to waste my time when you suggest I am blind AND biased. What hope do I have? Lol.
I don't get why people are still complaining about the ref I'm mexican and clearly we lost because we stopped playing, taking gio out of the pitch was a mistake, switching to a defensive 5-4-1 was suicidal against Holland.
If people are saying Mexico lost because of the ref they are mental... if so, the ref didnt gave a clear peno in the 1st half.
If people are saying Mexico lost because of the ref they are mental... if so, the ref didnt gave a clear peno in the 1st half.
that was never a penalty. everyone can see robben exaggerates dives and the ref takes the bait. it was never a penalty. CTPM robben !
That is exactly why they lost. Never should have taken him off. Everything went just fine the way Mexico were playing. Holland couldn't create anything and had trouble stopping shots from the Mexican players.
Sitting back and inviting the Dutch to attack was a very very stupid mistake.
Jim Morrison, we get it, you are crying your eyeballs out that Mexico lost. Penalty or not a penalty it doesn't matter, they lost because their manager is a fool for switching tactics when they score.
Now go outside and eat an icecream, you little girl.
yes it was, but Piojo chose his tactics but in the end they did not work.
that still does not justify, the ref awarding robben and holland with a free penalty. robben dived and the ref took the bait.
not crying, lol. CTPM, Essaux, you little girl.
If that was Mexico getting the penalty in that way, you'd be here right now defending it and one of us would be telling you some Mexican dived and the ref took the bait.
Problem is, it was the opponent who got awarded a penalty and you are having a hard time accepting the fact that it was a just penalty. Robben should have gotten one in the first half anyway.
Adios Amigos!
Sorry that's not how it works, but you got tagged a little girl first, little girl.
Here is a kleenex to wipe off your tears with
Football. Oh what it does to a man.
Speaking of resurrections, it is amazing how Robbwn was able to celebrate with his teammates. I assumed he was dead from the way that he fell down just moments before. Truly, He Is Risen.
Mexico really played great but some tactical mistakes and they took too much risk with tackles and slidings in their own goal area. Its a nice way to prevent chances but every time there is a % change the ref sees something and gives a penalty. They got Lucky at one decision en unlucky at another. It doesnt matter which ones where real penalties which werent. You should prevent does situations and if you cant, the opponent forced you to make mistakes.
This photo leaves no doubt whatsoever that it was never a correct pk call.
That said, Robben was denied a clear pk in the first half. If anyone wants to call the second have dive a makeup call, fine with me.
Sorry that's not how it works, but you got tagged a little girl first, little girl.
Here is a kleenex to wipe off your tears with
@ essaux CTPM, you little girl. don't need a kleenex since no tears were spilled. STFU newbie.
robben dives and the ref takes the bait. photo @ Gannicus, clearly shows marquez foot is on the pitch and not stepping, tripping, or contacting robbens cleat.
IT NEVER WAS PENALTY. the match should have gone to extra time and possibly penalties.
it was just a penalty. CTPM con esas chingaderas. that was penalty in the final added mins of the game that decided who passed on to quarters, so don't give me that bullshit.
robben dives and the ref takes the bait. game should have continued into extra time and possibly penalties.
This photo leaves no doubt whatsoever that it was never a correct pk call.
Ok. I don't get that at all. Marquez has his right leg impeding where Robben wants to go. One second later: contact - Robben goes over -penalty.
Am I missing something blatant here? I mean, where does Robben's right leg go from this point?
robben trips on himself, look at the play in slow motion you will see how robben uses his right leg to trip his left leg,drags it, and dives.
robben dives and the ref took the bait. it was never a penalty.
Dear Lord...Perhaps we should just start agreeing with jim so this discussion can die the death it deserves.
Meanwhile..the world keeps spinning.
Meanwhile..the world keeps spinning.
Jim has to be the most annoying person I've seen in the caf.
STOP saying CTPM in every reply... It's stupid, 99% of the people here don't even know what that means, you're making a fool of yourself.
For those who are curious CTPM means chinga tu puta madre... (Go feck your wh*re mother)
STOP saying CTPM in every reply... It's stupid, 99% of the people here don't even know what that means, you're making a fool of yourself.
For those who are curious CTPM means chinga tu puta madre... (Go feck your wh*re mother)
Ah, glad to hear he's being mature about it.
Robben is in forward motion here. Law of physics.
I don't know why but I find that really funny (probably not the affect he was going for though).
Robben is in forward motion here. Law of physics.
and you can clearly see Marquez is not stepping, tripping or contacting robbens foot. robben dives and the ref took the bait. it was never penalty. the game should have gone to extra time and possibly to penalties.
forward motion, mis huevos, look at the play Robben trips his foot, drags it behind, and dives. NEVER A PENALTY.
@jimorrison As a fellow Mexican, ya güey, get over it...
sorry to disappoint but not Mexican. I am Chicano.
pues si ellos le siguen yo tambien.
Does this mean 'the ref took the bait'?