You been to Andy Tate's university I take it?
Mesut Ozil SHOCKING transformation
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Man is more stacked than a 14 year old @Pexbo
I mean it's pretty clear he's juicing...
You're just insecure and feel threatened by his raw sex appeal
It's a definite statement, it's either true or not. There can't be some truth to it, if either a man who has ever been in shape or a woman who has been able to attract men in good shape prefer a less muscly physique then it's wrong.
It's a really fecking dumb statement.
You got me. He's just so damn VASCULAR
Give it steroids till end of theh seasn?
That's not the point. Point is even if he's juicing and he's trening like a mofo, it still doesn't negate the work one needs to put in to get that physique. People make it seem as if you take steroids and automatically will look like that. It's nauseating.
It's up there with the worst non-political statements on here in a good while
That's a naturally fit and toned physique. Good on him if he likes the new look and it makes him feel better though.
For reference here he is in 2014
Wait. So you're saying the thing that is nauseating is people claiming that you don't need to work hard while talking steroids to get a good physique?
Question: do you juice?!
Lots of people on steroids work really, really hard, but you do get a lot for free. Sitting on your ass, injecting TRT while never working out, will build more muscle than working out naturally.
I was actually surprised because in my mind he was much thinner.
I'm a Pharmaceutical Scientist, I know what steroids do and the effects and would personally never do them, I train 3 days a week and have been for the last 13 years straight and I have a decent enough physique i'm happy with but I train with a lot of dudes that use steroids and they train hard as hell and yes the steroids enhance the process exponentially but it's not as if they still aren't training as much as the natty guys and that's my point.
I'm not sure if you've met many players but he probably was quite thin there. He's a shade under 6 ft and probably weighed about 11 stone. Considering he will have less fat than the average person that is very small in overall size.
It's one of the thing that always surprises me when I've seen active players. They are waifs
Rules vs exceptions, so it’s not a case of being absolute. Not a difficult thing to comprehend. I can understand if his harsh way of putting it comes off a type of way to you and others. The actual dumb comment is “I will never understand why some women are thinking that so many muscles is hot” as if it takes a rocket scientist to explain why women tend to like a man who’s fit.
No amount of juice will fix that face.
Aren't there studies out there which say that some people, who don't train still gained more muscle than some who go to the gym regularly because of the roids?
Of course eating right, good genetics, hard training and roids would be optimal eg. Mike Thurston, but the advantage which roids give some people has to be outrageous, imo.
Yes, it is a case of being absolute. It was an absolute statement, and it was really really dumb.
I don't get why you're trying to twist it by bringing up something as vague as "fit". No one was talking about that. It wasn't you who said it, I don't get why you're batting for some Tate bullshit when you have to completely change the statement to do it.
justice for the juice-crew
This is definitely not true. You still have to put the work in either way.
I don't believe this is remotely true.
I'm sure he looks at his wife and his bank balance and is really, really worried about this.
Juice or no juice still have to put the work in.
Nah. It'll platou at some point, but it's completely free gains.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejm199607043350101
Yeah there’s no cure looking like an insect.
Precisely. Anyone who has been on the journey knows the deal.
Lads, you lot will argue about absolutely anything, won’t you?
It isn’t. My brother is a powerlifter and used to use them, and sell them. They don’t just make you ripped by sitting on your arse.
That study is incredibly flawed.
Firstly 10 weeks is nowhere near an appropriate amount of time to factor in the diminishing returns.
As does the sample size.
Secondly using fat free body mass and muscle almost interchangeably makes it meaningless.
I know a fair few who have tried their best, some have done well others less than so.
Thank goodness he has those, because yikes.
I have to say, on him it's not a good look. On others, maybe so - but he looks kind of weird
Pre-existing condition
He's not even particularly ugly he just has exophthalmos.
Personal trainers HATES this one trick!
Not a lot of footballers in Canada, no.
When I played I was a shade under 6ft and a little over 12 stone myself. These days I'm a little thicker.
That’s usually the case for most given that the same variables that are at play for natty folks (diet, water, sleep, intensity) also apply to TRT folks (therapeutic dose to restore natural testosterone levels) and full on steroid users (competitive dose to alter one’s appearance).