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Messi or Ronaldo

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Speaking seriously, he is doing one of his best recent individual seasons and is miles ahead of what any player did this season.
I agree but I also know it’s circunstancial Ronaldo just changed leagues countries teams new players new coach new system. But Messi has been phenomenal no shame in saying that.
 
The tables have turned in here. It's now the Messi fans turn to be insufferable tits.

It's almost like we're all the saaaaame.

Messi'd pretty good though.
Oh ya.... FECK AJAX! .....feckin twats.


Am I doing this right ?
 
The same way you said Messi was better after he choked 3 finals and Ronaldo won. What’s your point?

Please show evidence/proof of that. You literally said a few pages back that Cristiano has been better since 2014.
We don’t do alternative facts here.
Show me the proof of what you speak.
 
I didn't take it like that. It was an uneducated dig and it made you look like an utter prick.
If you don’t know how to stay on a topic and resort to that type of statement it’s your problem not mine. Of course I wasn’t insulting you and your country ffs.
 
I agree, ridiculous to compare international performances. So many variables. If you’re going to bring into play though, there’s far more to a functional side than great players - Argentina are frankly wank without Messi, regardless of their quality

Obviously Portugal is also not nearly as good without Ronaldo, but neither of those players were the deciding factors in winning a final for their nations.
Like I said everyone is entitled to there opinion. I think Ronaldo and you think Messi and that’s FINE but the issue on why this thread sucks is because you see things like “so far ahead” “not even close “ and quite frankly those people are either blind or slow.
 
He live on another planet compared to every player I saw in my lifetime with the exception of Brazilian Ronaldo.

On a side note, the poll on the top of the page is irritating. A moderator should remove it especially since it was fixed and doesn't represent the consensus on redcafe.
 
Please show evidence/proof of that. You literally said a few pages back that Cristiano has been better since 2014.
We don’t do alternative facts here.
Show me the proof of what you speak.
When did I say 2014. Find that post right now and tag me in it.

I said last few years. Quite frankly implying 2016,17,18.

I do think he was better 2014. Not 2015 though.

Read then respond.
 
If you don’t know how to stay on a topic and resort to that type of statement it’s your problem not mine. Of course I wasn’t insulting you and your country ffs.
Give it a rest, you are the one who decided to give it all 'billy big balls' and brought my country in it for me daring to suggest Messi is better than Ronaldo. Pathetic.

This and clearly not knowing feck all about my country and the players we had. you just assumed you could say shit like that because of pure arrogance
 
He live on another planet compared to every player I saw in my lifetime with the exception of Brazilian Ronaldo.

On a side note, the poll on the top of the page is irritating. A moderator should remove it especially since it was fixed and doesn't represent the consensus on redcafe.
They put it there because there is a lot of bias on red caf leaning one way.
 
I agree but I also know it’s circunstancial Ronaldo just changed leagues countries teams new players new coach new system. But Messi has been phenomenal no shame in saying that.
No circunstancial isn’t really, reality is he still can play at this level for more 2 or 3 years without problems. He is the most complete player. No problem with that.
 
Give it a rest, you are the one who decided to give it all 'billy big balls' and brought my country in it for me daring to suggest Messi is better than Ronaldo. Pathetic.
Last time I will say something. It was only based on football nothing more than that. If you didn’t liked it no problem and sorry. But next time also think twice before replying with stupid language. And it ends here. Apologies to all Northern Ireland posters or Best fans. But for me Ronaldo is better.
 
Last time I will say something. It was only based on football nothing more than that. If you didn’t liked it no problem and sorry. But next time also think twice before replying with stupid language. And it ends here. Apologies to all Northern Ireland posters or Best fans. But for me Ronaldo is better.

Apology accepted.
 
Imagine years and years of being second fiddle to the best in the world and then finally being able to win his competition now that he is not there.

Believe me I understand the excitement. It’s been years and now they get to finally enjoy it. You guys can have this moment. Enjoy!
Best post ever:lol:
 
5th best player in the world making a big jump to win the Ballon D'Or for the first time ever.

Oh wait no it's his 6th. The fact he wasn't shortlisted last year was a disgrace.

Just give him the Ballon D'Or. No one has been near him this season/year.
 
It's the first time in a few years that Messi has stood up in the knockout rounds isn't it?

Ronaldo has dominated them the last few seasons.
 
The guy basically tried to demean my country whist not knowing my wee country had the player Pele himself was the best in the world at the time. People like him need a good clash.

'Country'. :D
 
Imagine years and years of being second fiddle to the best in the world and then finally being able to win his competition now that he is not there.

Believe me I understand the excitement. It’s been years and now they get to finally enjoy it. You guys can have this moment. Enjoy!

Salty, very very salty.

It’s not just CL that matters. Just watch the games and admit it. You will enjoy the game even more after.
 
Salty, very very salty.

It’s not just CL that matters. Just watch the games and admit it. You will enjoy the game even more after.
Why would I be?

Their are just factors that make it that Messi simply is not better though it’s very closer. His whole career has been in Barca for many years in the greatest team of all time (also due to him) we have never seen him tried and tested in other leagues and teams like Ronaldo. In Argentina we know how he is. I’m sorry but I just can’t see it. Ronaldo has more “credentials” to being the best.
 
Tonight is a good game for me to describe why I will always prefer Messi, besides the goals, you can feel his impact and importance. Their entire attacking and a big part of their possession depends on him.
Yeah agree, even the chance he set up at the very end for dembele had Ronaldo been in that position no way would he of passed.

If Messi plays well Barca invariably win the man is the ultimate team player and quite frankly we're honoured to be alive to watch Messi and Ronaldo in their prime.
 
I know you wish that was the case but it simply is not.

I accept you having an opinion that he is better. Everyone has there own opinion. But the moment you say “so far ahead” you lose all credibility and is why this topic gives me cancer.

To be fair, you lost your credibility when you said Cristiano was better in 2015. You haven’t recovered from that.
 
Ronado really did a lot in recent years to get himself around Messi's level again, so fair feck to him on that, it was really a great achievement, but it's Messi again who is in front by mile now.

What are part of Ronaldo's game that he is better than Messi these days? Apart from heading I can't see any. Messi is clearly better on free kicks than Ronaldo ever was, and weren't there some stats that showed that he is nothing worse with his weaker foot when it comes to scoring too?
 
After what? You mean just like when Ronaldo eliminated Atletico on his own?

Or how about the past THREE CL in a row ?

I get it your all a bit excited because Messi will finally win again. Nonetheless I won’t be spending hours arguing the same points again and again.

Never a problem in commending greatness this end. Please don’t @ me again in this baiting.

Are you sure I am part of this discussion? I mean the most ridiculous thing I had the chance to read this week was some media trying to create the narrative this was a Van Dijk vs Messi and the winner would win the Ballon D’or.

They don’t live on the same planet, and the only one who tried to challenge this on the last decade never played on Liverpool.

Give me a break, I have to laugh at the innocent Rawk posts this week imagining a player like this fears their pace. :lol:

I was just jesting lads :lol: sorry for being jokingly provocative :D
 
Ronado really did a lot in recent years to get himself around Messi's level again, so fair feck to him on that, it was really a great achievement, but it's Messi again who is in front by mile now.

What are part of Ronaldo's game that he is better than Messi these days? Apart from heading I can't see any. Messi is clearly better on free kicks than Ronaldo ever was, and weren't there some stats that showed that he is nothing worse with his weaker foot when it comes to scoring too?

His movement is probably better(though Messi's always been more economical).

But yeah nothing else.

I don't see how anyone with a straight face can argue against Messi being the best this year. Ronaldo isn't even close to him. The gap has never been this big IMO.
 
I won’t single out a poster because he’s being bossed at the moment - but he is so salty it’s unbelievable :lol:

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Period.
But feck me, I just can’t imagine being able to look at both players and not being able to realise who the GOAT is, let alone the better player of the two. For me, it’s painfully easy.
 
His movement is probably better(though Messi's always been more economical).

Yeah, I wanted to include it too, but then Messi scores more goals so I am not sure I can say even that is important when you look at it. Messi's movement is obviously better considering he is both creating and scoring more goals with his movement.
 
His movement is probably better(though Messi's always been more economical).

But yeah nothing else.

I don't see how anyone with a straight face can argue against Messi being the best this year. Ronaldo isn't even close to him. The gap has never been this big IMO.

Don't know about how their stats compare in that season but in terms of their quality of their games, the gap was just as big as now in 2010-11 IMO. Both Messi & Barcelona were unbelievable that season and played Real off the park every time they played each other bar the Copa del Rey final in which Ronaldo scored the winner. 5-0 El Clasico, Messi making a fool of Real's defence in CL game at Bernabeu, them winning probably the easiest CL Final they had :( IIRC, even Ronaldo had accepted at the end of that season that Messi is the best player in the world.
 
He's the greatest footballer ever.

It'll be a sad day when he retires, for the game, and Barca imo will never get over losing him. They'll still be able to attract the best players but they won't have him to go into unplayable mode in such crucial games.

I doubt we'll see anyone like him in the foreseeable future unless someone genetically engineers some wonderkid without us knowing.

The most interesting debate is who takes the 2nd best ever place.

They'll be fine. Barca is weirdly good at having the currently best player in the world in their squads. Before Messi, there was Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Laudrup, Romario, Maradona, Cruyff, ... It is incredible how many best of their generation level of players they had. Most top clubs have only one or two players of such quality through their entire history.
 
It really is quite cute how the CL is nothing more than a glorified cup competition which takes a lot of luck to win in the previous 3 seasons and has suddenly become the premier competition in the world once again. :lol:
 
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