Wrote this post in the La Liga thread but it didn't belong there, so I decided to post it here..
Yeah, of course you weren't talking about Ronaldo. Who are you trying to kid, honestly? In every fecking post of yours one can extract some argument that in one way or another makes Ronaldo look better or Messi look worse. You subtly sneak in those arguments again and again and at some point in the future you bring them up in the actual discussion as if they were facts (something like "Rakitic, ancient-Iniesta and Busquets are a better midfield than Kroos, Modric and Casemiro", "Alba is a better left back than Marcelo" or "Messi's playstyle makes his teams extremely dependent on him" or something along those lines). I'm annoyed of myself that I again took the bait and started this argument with you because it (rightly) annoys many users in here that this discussion is so omnipresent but it is simply impossible to resist the irk to call you out for this kind of stuff.
Your posts in this thread are perfect examples of how you are again and again twisting, turning and bending arguments until they fit your narrative. Messi has played in countless different setups, successfully occupied much more different roles and positions than Ronaldo, can outplay defenses in many more ways than CR7 and so forth, so what's your point? You are completely superficial in one direction ("Argentina and Barca's whole approach consists of giving the ball to Messi and this is of course his fault, he simply makes it incredible hard for tactical geniuses like Martino or Maradona who immediately had unimaginable success once they coached teams in which he wasn't there") and super in-depth in the other ("Yeah, of course Real Madrid struggles now that Ronaldo is gone but here are 7 essays consisting of 63 pages with 547 different reasons why that is actually not the case and everyone who doesn't agree with my argumentation has no clue about football and I will answer them with 50 laughing smileys that document my and Ronaldo's superiority").
By the way, a good description of how versatile Messi actually is this video:
This illustrates how ridiculous those things you claim actually are. Really, I can only repeat what I said in the last post. From time to time one has to reflect what you are actually arguing in this very moment in order to understand how far from reality your claims are. You constantly criticize Messi for being too good for his team. When Barca recently performed underwhelmingly your first instinct was to criticize Messi although he wasn't even on the pitch. You suggested that Rakitic was a better midfielder than fecking Toni Kroos and argued he had a better world cup for Croatia than Luka Modric. You criticized Messi for not being compatible with Dybala yet since Ronaldo plays for Juve the guy can't score for his life and has a siginficantly less important role in the squad. But of course you, and only you, know the true reason for that (which of course isn't the far too obvious explanation that Ronaldo has changed the environment for him but the supposed "fact" that the midfield around Pjanic has coincidently degressed the very moment Ronaldo joined the team). But do you know what my favourite part of that essay was? You said that Dybala scored less because he had to drop deep in order to build up the play from the midfield, the exact role Messi is executing in Barcelona without any negative effect on his productivity. So when the team performs bad, Messi falls back and takes over the responsibility and still manages to finish attacks while Ronaldo stays up front, scores less and leaves the task of initiating attacks to another team mate (who then scores less, too) but somehow this makes Ronaldo more versatile and Messi a challenge for the manager. What the actual f*ck? Unbelievable.
Yet the very moment a Barca fans says something negative about a player other than Messi you are immediately pointing your finger on him and are all like "THERE! Did you see that? He again criticized a Barca player in order to make Messi look better! These Barca fans are completely mental!"
You are really, truly incredible.
