Did I say he was poor in the CL final 2015?
No but you insinuated that he has been off form in the CL latter stages since 2013. Which is BS.
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No but you insinuated that he has been off form in the CL latter stages since 2013. Which is BS.
Poor Uefalona.
"Messi has not scored a single CL QF goal since 2013, rarely off form?Did I say he was poor in the CL final 2015?
"This strongly insinuates that you believe a lack of scoring translates to a lack of form. So yes, yes you did.
You mental gymnast you.
...and like I’ve previously said, doesn’t that show how much Ronaldo has picked it up and Messi has stalled that even after such a horrendous start to the year he still has more goals than Messi? And again, just hysterical Barca/Messi fanbois are trying to argue success in the league vs mid table clubs should be held to a higher standard than Ronaldo scoring round after round whilst carrying Madrid at a historic pace/level never before seen in the CL vs the top European clubs in the world. This really is the twilight zone considering this is what the fanbois are grasping on to as an argument - at least in their eyes
Are you seriously arguing that Real Madrid prioritize La Liga over the Champions League?
He's been off form 4 out of 5 seasons, unless you think that the QF is the round Barca should be getting knocked out at.
No, I was pointing out that he's been off form 4 out of 5 seasons."Messi has not scored a single CL QF goal since 2013, rarely off form?
This strongly insinuates that you believe a lack of scoring translates to a lack of form. So yes, yes you did.
You mental gymnast you.
Unless you think a on-form Messi is only CL QF level.
its a team sport after all
Are you seriously arguing that Real Madrid prioritize La Liga over the Champions League?
He's been off form 4 out of 5 seasons, unless you think that the QF is the round Barca should be getting knocked out at.
Okay then, so Barca prioritise the league and Real the CL. Because Barca have won more league titles and Real the CL in the last 5 years.
Maybe that is why Messi has been better in the league over them years and Ron the CL. Because they put most of their focus on the one they prioritise.
Sounds to me like a very poor excuse to cover up why Ron was so poor before Christmas.
You can’t just use a player being better in the CL as your argument over who is better.
Benzema is the 5th top scorer in CL history, RVN is 4th.
But Henry and Zlatan were better than them.
Zlatan and Buffon have never won the CL, but you wouldn’t argue that lesser players that have won it are better than them.
It is ridiculous to base your whole argument on the CL.
This whole CL is the priority argument is so selective. That’s what I’d preach about too if I wasn’t as successful as I should be in the league. Real Madrid set out to win everything, not winning the league is absolutely a failure for them.
Exactly mate, also see my above post for that.
If you can’t win everything, what’s the best thing you can win? The BIGGEST thing.
CL > League.
aka
Kings of Europe > Local champions.
...why am I even having to explain this...
Anyways I’m off and gonna get some shuteye, Holy Trinity seems to have just ignored what I’ve mentioned to him since he probably can’t think of a response that suits a narrative for him. Maybe he responds by the time I come back here
Anyways I’m off and gonna get some shuteye, Holy Trinity seems to have just ignored what I’ve mentioned to him since he probably can’t think of a response that suits a narrative for him. Maybe he responds by the time I come back here
Hopefully you don’t. Some of the most deliberately antagonizing posts I’ve seen in my time on the caf.
The way you worded it, made it seem there was a connection between form and goals scored. It's not my fault you worded it wrong and try backpedaling in your next post.
I don't even disagree, I'm just allergic to fallacies.
You seriously think Barca prioritize La Liga over the CL?
Anyway, so what if Ronaldo was in bad form for a few months? Is that really the key issue in the discussion of the GOAT?
It's even more ridiculous to base your argument on the league and brush off the bigger competition.
He hasnt progressed past the QF stage for three years now, suggests a dip in performance in the CL.
Just because you don’t agree doesn’t mean they are “antagonizing”. That’s not how arguments work but sure.
You seriously think Barca prioritize La Liga over the CL?
Anyway, so what if Ronaldo was in bad form for a few months? Is that really the key issue in the discussion of the GOAT?
It's even more ridiculous to base your argument on the league and brush off the bigger competition.
Also, argue later. writup now.
By the same logic, continually getting knocked out at the QF is worse for Barca.
The point is that IF you can win one of the league or the CL, every club will go for the CL.
How am I supposed to agree or disagree with stuff like “fanboi” or “hehehe” or your just blatant attempts at winding people up?
I was actually doing just that until I got sidetracked by this thread again.
I’m literally stating my stance and view. If that winds you up, I don’t know what to say really other than it’s an argument from both sides so don’t let it get to you or take it personally or anything just as I don’t.
Sorry, next time I’ll say fanboy...on my phone and autocorrects to that, didn’t even realize until now. And last I checked I’m allowed to laugh at things and have a chuckle at things I deem funny, jeez.
You don’t know that. It’s an assumption. Besides i didn’t mention barca, it should just be clear that Real Madrid set out to win everything. They should be going for the treble every year and anything less has to be held against them.
Your posts make you seem like one of the biggest wankers on this forum. The fact that you’ve spelt it “fanboi” so many times that your phone autocorrects to it is the icing on the cake. I hope you wake up a better poster after your shut eye. At the very least, grow up and use respectable language
You'd say the same about Barca. No?
If you cnuts hate each other so much use the ignore button
100% though I do think real have the better side and such is their CL dominance they really should be winning that league.
I like everyone around
Except whoever changed my tagline and @oneniltothearsenal for suggesting this one.
Intervention is my preferred approach. He’s been a good poster before and I’m sure he can be again.
He won us a lot. He wanted to go to Madrid but still gave us an extra year. Cheats?
and you must know him personally to think he is a narcissist?It’s only this thread I get this passionate about, anywhere else on the forum I’m nowhere as dialled in or riled up for.
And I have been using respectable language. It’s probably the disagreeing with strong opinions part which rubs the wrong way which I get but like I said, no need to take things personally or anything...it’s an internet debate afterall and just passions going after one another.
But yea thanks for your $0.02, I’ll definitely take into consideration moving forward.
I like everyone around
Except whoever changed my tagline and @oneniltothearsenal for suggesting this one.
"The Donald Trump of CR7 fans"
He won us a lot. He wanted to go to Madrid but still gave us an extra year. Cheats?
Weird, isn’t it?
best post I've read in this thread since ... ever?
unfortunately for most kids football these days is all about scoring, doesn't matter what else you bring to the table. Ronaldo is a great scorer, not Gerd Müller like but probably the best of this generation. Messi isn't a scorer, he's scoring a lot too but that's more of a bonus. It's the other things he does that distinguish him from Ronaldo and everybody else in football today. tbh I kinda feel sorry for people that can't see that because - as I said- for most kids it's just about scoring. They can't recognize what Messi is able to do on the pitch and it's especially these things that make him one of the very best of all time. In that regard Messi is on the same level as Pele, Maradona, Cruyff. Ronaldoisn't that kind of player. And that's not a knock on Ronaldo. He's simply a different kind of player, a clinical finisher. That's why I always have a hard time regarding this thread. It's almost impossible to compare Messi and Ronaldo because they're so different yet when people do, they always focus on scoring. Guess that means Rogerio Ceni is the best keeper and thus the best player ever. Doing it all on both sides of the pitch :P
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