Gehrman
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Damn looking up Riquelme's best passing on youtube its not hard to see where Messi got his style from
I'm sorry, did something in my post offend you or are Leicester fans just assholes?Anyone coming with stats to prove a point and compare radically different football eras isn't worth a serious conversation.
Ridiculous thing to say. It's not everything but of course it's importantAnyone coming with stats to prove a point and compare radically different football eras isn't worth a serious conversation.
I've given up arguing across eras. Maradona was the best player of the 80s. Messi is the best player of the 21st century, or the last decade at least. Messi v Ronaldo is a fair debate, because they are dealing with the same circumstances. Maradona v Platini is a fair debate because they were dealing with the same circumstances. Messi v Maradona is not a logical debate. Football in Messi's time is completely different from what it was when Diego was playing. The whole world was completely different.
Your response their is fair. But you were saying you obviously you haven't watched Maradona. Nobody said anything about levels above. They're both the 2 best players ever but there was nothing Maradona was clearly better at than Messi
In terms of ability with the ball, their dribbling is almost identical but passing wise, Messi is a few levels above IMO.
FriedClams did: In terms of ability with the ball, their dribbling is almost identical but passing wise, Messi is a few levels above IMO.
Well he did it twice with Napoli to begin with, and if you watched him in his prime you'd sing another tune.
I absolutely love Messi and there's no doubt
in my mind that he's up there with the best footballers to ever grace a football pitch. Anyone putting him as the greatest of all time wouldn't have any complaint from me.
But seeing people trying to downplay what Maradona was and what he achieved is absolutely hilarious.
Ridiculous thing to say. It's not everything but of course it's important
Which was ridiculous to be honest.
You can prefer Messi's passing over Maradona's, but there's no shot it's levels above. They're both in the same tier.
The fundamental lack of understanding of the era Maradona played in and what 80's Serie A football represents (that being the apex of the sport's defensive organisation, negativity and difficulty to score) is probably acting as a trigger.I'm sorry, did something in my post offend you or are Leicester fans just assholes?
Thank you.The fundamental lack of understanding of the era Maradona played in and what 80's Serie A football represents (that being the apex of the sport's defensive organisation, negativity and difficulty to score) is probably acting as a trigger.
You have to weight attacking contributions in that era and league differently, or factor them into what you're presenting otherwise it becomes redundant because, like it or loathe it, there will never ever be a 1:1 ratio between that league and it's difficulty for attackers and anything else before or after. In fact, that era and that league plus the culminating World Cup '90 forced change for the entirety of football, for the greater good of the entertainment factor and to give attackers protection as well as reprimand defenders for truly disgusting, unrelenting foul play, the likes of which players in the latter 90's, let alone into this millennium, never once had to endure on a football pitch.
Because of that era and that league, we have been privy to the attacking growth of the game.
I think that you should re-read my post.Your response their is fair. But you were saying you obviously you haven't watched Maradona. Nobody said anything about levels above. They're both the 2 best players ever but there was nothing Maradona was clearly better at than Messi
Which is the wisest thing any sane fan football fan can do.I've given up arguing across eras. Maradona was the best player of the 80s. Messi is the best player of the 21st century, or the last decade at least. Messi v Ronaldo is a fair debate, because they are dealing with the same circumstances. Maradona v Platini is a fair debate because they were dealing with the same circumstances. Messi v Maradona is not a logical debate. Football in Messi's time is completely different from what it was when Diego was playing. The whole world was completely different.
Thank you.I've given up arguing across eras. Maradona was the best player of the 80s. Messi is the best player of the 21st century, or the last decade at least. Messi v Ronaldo is a fair debate, because they are dealing with the same circumstances. Maradona v Platini is a fair debate because they were dealing with the same circumstances. Messi v Maradona is not a logical debate. Football in Messi's time is completely different from what it was when Diego was playing. The whole world was completely different.
Notice how deep Maradona is when he makes these passes, his ability to keep and protect the ball in tight spaces and how he anticipates the incoming passing opportunity.Absolute genius at work by there.