I feel the keeper should have saved that. The shot didnt look like it had enough power behind it
Messi in Miami
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It just feels right. Apart from seeing him in pink. Think American interest in football will boom because of this.
Do people watch the full games? The teams can barely defend even if their lives depended on it. And the Miami opponents always deploy man marking on Messi... on the XXI century.
Are they still with low physical levels because this is some kind of pre-season tournament?
Are they still with low physical levels because this is some kind of pre-season tournament?
They are in the 2nd half of the season I believe.
Horrific defending and goalkeeping aside, he's truly enjoying his football again and it's really heart warming. Messi-PSG was a marriage made in hell.
If Miami get their recruitment right, they could really have a shot at winning the MLS next season. A story for the ages.
If Miami get their recruitment right, they could really have a shot at winning the MLS next season. A story for the ages.
So this kind of defending is the usual standards? And I thought the dutch league was terrible on defensive performances.
They clearly have a shot with the Alba + Busquets + Messi trio. No other team has this value. Now if they can make a balanced strategy that's another story.
With all due respect:
1. Football is the ONLY truly global sport and therefore its superstars are global superstars. Basketball is played professionally by relatively fe countries.
2. Football is much more physically demanding than basketball. It is also more cerebral than basketball and requires a higher skill level. Given the larger pool of talent in football, its greatest are the true goats of sport. Jordan is the greatest basketballer, Messi is the greatest footballer and sports person.
Indeed, a real underdog story involving a team throwing unprecedented money around, the league looking the other way and applying completely different rules to that team both on and off the pitch.
What are different rules? Genuinely asking. Its hardly Leicester but seeing their instant transformation is interesting. 3 old guys albeit mainly Messi smashing it is fun for the worst team in the league.
At this point it starts to feel scripted. Messi the GOAT joins a last place team and start kicking ass and carry his team to the top. A typical Hollywood story.
1. That was Muhammad Ali.
2. Whatever about the merits of each sport, the point re: the larger pool of talent is undoubtedly correct. But then no other sport compares to football on that score.
1. I think you might be right about Ali.
2. Agreed.
Mr Muhammad Ali would like to politely tel Mr Messi to get the hell back in his box, greatest football player ever he maybe but greatest sports person ever he is not.
He would also like a word with MJ for claiming the mantle of first global sports star, that accolade belongs to him also.
Why so bitter though?
Watch back the game against Orlando and tell me they don’t play by different rules to their opponents. I’ve seen some bad referee performances in my time, heck I watch non-league football so the standard of officiating is dreadful but that was something else entirely. They even pretended they didn’t have VAR until Orlando scored late on and they wanted to disallow it (but not pull it back for a penalty where the Orlando lad had his head kicked off a split second before the supposed offside).
Saw it live from that side of the field. It's a great strike not just in the precision but also timing. Messi caught Blake as he was backtracking and every single person in the stadium expected a pass, til it was in the net.
Messi - Busquets - Jordi Alba. How the hell did Beckham swing that trio within salary cap. They've transformed a really really crap Miami team.
It’s a close call between Pele and Ali as to who was the first global superstar. Probably Pele, as Ali didn’t become the icon he became until after 1970, by which time Pele had cemented his legacy for all eternity.
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You know yanks are idiots when they call a sport predominantly played in America, global. Like it or not, basketball, while played elsewhere is predominantly an American sport that is only truly popular in America. The only reason why anyone in Asia or Africa would have heard of Michael Jordan is American soft power/ popular culture but trust me, a vast majority of the world never saw Jordan play unless at the Olympics.
The first global superstar is a toss between Pele and Muhammad Ali.
There is a no 7 in your name, might explain the bitterness. Just let it go. It is pre-retirement for both.
Mr Pele than introduces himself.
I watch MLS regularly, and not just Miami, but a vast array of sides. If you truly believe that the league is somehow showing partiality to Inter Miami based on your observations of games you've seen Messi play in, then you really can't have been paying attention to officiating in the MLS for the last ten years, because I have witnessed significantly worse and more consistently poor refereeing than anything you might have picked up in the Miami games and used it as some argument for exceptionalism.
Exception, it is not.
Specific to Miami? Not even close.
Easy there, tiger. MJ was a big thing at his time: even in countries where nobody probably watched a single basketball game, NBA merchandise was selling like chips with curry sauce after a night out.
I remember tons of people wearing Chicago Bulls/LA Lakers caps and shirts that didn't even knew the rules of the game. And Michael Jordan was all over the news worldwide, even if it was just because he farted.
Globetrotters started having work offers to make exibition shows in Europe/África/Asia due to not only MJ, but that whole generation. They made more money outside USA than in USA.
Well that escalated quickly. Maybe you should lay of a discussion form if you go from zero to instulting so quickly. Also, you should work on your reading comprehension. I did not say basketball was the "global superstar", I said MJ, the person was a global superstar.
Also, I stand corrected on the "first" bit, others were right that it would have been Ali.
Yeah I couldn't give a feck about Ronaldo pal so try again.
In terms of off field, MLS will do whatever it takes to keep Beckham happy and now they've got Beckham and Messi in the same club that will only continue in terms of allowing them to spend. In terms of on field, I've been watching MLS games week in week out for 8 years or so now and while I agree that there have been some absolute shocking decisions in that time, usually against Orlando in fairness, but that night in Fort Lauderdale topped the lot. As I said, I watch non-league football in the UK regularly too so am well used too dreadful refereeing performances but that wasn't just a bad performance, it was a referee who allowed a player to do his job and changed the rules to react to the specific situation. Blatant dive I've given a penalty for? No, we can't look at VAR. Head kicked off in the penalty area? No of course we can't look at VAR. Possible offside, a split second after the head kicked off incident? Ah yes, to VAR we go! Lionel, you want to commit two or three bookable fouls, a clear dive, wave two imaginary cards in my face and try and fight an opponent walking off the pitch all just in the first half? That's absolute fine mate, you carry on. There were several other incidents through the game too, just the first half was ridiculous and it was no wonder Orlando completely lost their heads after the penalty was given early in the second half. I've not watched the last couple of rounds, I'm sure it'll sort itself out over time as the whole having Messi in the league furore dies down but that game was a disgrace of a performance from a referee who knew what he was doing.
Not really the case at all, of all so-called American sports leagues basketball is by far the most global and the most popular around the world, and after the European football leagues I'd say the NBA is the most popular league globally.
If you look at the best 10 players in NBA they might include Jokic (Serbian), Giannis (Greek), Doncic (Slovenian), Embiid (Cameroonian), Murray (Canada). The most hyped player in the world for the next 10 years is French - Wembanyama.
One has the number 7 in his name, the other is from Portugal, so I have a sneaking suspicion I know why they’re both a little bit vexed. You get fans who seem to find fault with almost any goal he scores. I think he largely took the keeper by surprise, he rarely ever shoots from distance in scenarios like that, so the element of surprise, the fact the keeper was still backpedaling expecting a pass, and the fact it had pin point accuracy are pretty much what beat him.
The level of defence clearly isn’t great, but then of course it’s not, it’s the MLS, it’s not one of the top leagues. Defending in the top leagues has regressed over the last decade as well though. You see some comically bad goals conceded in the Premier League every week. Anyway he’s been quieter his last couple of games but a lot of his team mates have clearly upped their level playing alongside him and I feel like they find a lot more space because of him. It’s almost comical how many players are so fixated on watching Messi that they forget that he has teammates around too.
Why only Jordan and Messi? You should absolutely compare athletes from all sports and eras. My money would be on Achilles. Haven't seen him live but his highlights are absolutely amazing. I mean, have you seen that spear throw?
Proper weird you boys who think everything is about Ronaldo (almost as if there are people on this forum of all places who seem to think he invented the number 7?!) when the post you’re responding to of mine didn’t even mention Messi
How about Achilles + Mount + Bruno?
Can he play with Mainoo?
You mean as a holding mid? Achilles has generally been more of an attacker during his career plus I think his heel injury has ruined him, sadly. Can't cover all the ground those two would leave open I'm afraid
Can he do it a cold Monday night in Troy ?
Yeah its close between those. Im just not sure Pele was all that known in America before the 1970 WC or maybe not truly established there until he joined Cosmos in 74. Also while he was well known before this was he truly a star in the sense that Ali was, Ali was absolutely mobbed everywhere he went in the world, he completely trancended his sport. Its close, but i think i favour Ali as the first truly global sports star.
Great shout.
Yeah, I think basketball is the most popular american sports worldwide by far. So I would make an exception for it. Even though other american sports like Baseball are super popular in South Korea, Japan, and the Caribbean region.
Still on the playing field Basketball probably will be never ultra popular outside of North America and Europe due to population's height. I mean hard for Basketball to be popular in Asia in the playing field (playing the game, not just watching) when the average men's height in the asian continent it's like 1.70 or even shorter in some countries like Vietnam, Philippines, Bangladesh, etc.
Proper weird you boys who think everything is about Ronaldo (almost as if there are people on this forum of all places who seem to think he invented the number 7?!) when the post you’re responding to of mine didn’t even mention Messi
Apologies if I’m wrong. Initials and a 7, not exactly hard to see how someone would come to that conclusion, especially when people bitter about Messi are often emotionally attached to another player. What I thinks weird is implying that they’re having different rules applied to them or that a crappy bottom of the league side suddenly winning 5 in a row by adding a few older players (2 for the most part) isn’t impressive.
I see this thread went seriously off track.
Anyway……Messi taking the piss right now. That Miami team was a disaster. Now they are just blowing teams away with ease. The Messi, Biscuits and Alba trio adds so much quality to their line up. They also have that Gomez chap settling in, who will be a strong player in MSL, that Cremeschi kid who runs his socks off. They’ve also got this Farrias chap to bed in, and I think they signed another young international CB from Argentina, Aviles, who hopefully can pass it out from the back.
I’ve never watched so many MLS matches before. Been to a few games here in Chicago, and it was always absolute shite. But been watching the Messi journey because it’s strangely exciting to have him in the leave and it’s easy to access on Apple TV. Tbh, still struggling to comprehend how bad most of the teams are. Mainly the defenders. They are just shockingly bad. Last night any goalkeeper worth his salt would’ve saved rhe first two goals with ease. Real Sunday league stuff.
Whats most fun about it is how ridiculously overhyped the commentators get. They are still shouting and creaming themselves after the final whistle. Every game is commentated like it’s the World Cup final. It’s strangely fun
Admittedly I’ve not watched a single game this season that didn’t involve Messi. Nor do I intend to.
Anyway……Messi taking the piss right now. That Miami team was a disaster. Now they are just blowing teams away with ease. The Messi, Biscuits and Alba trio adds so much quality to their line up. They also have that Gomez chap settling in, who will be a strong player in MSL, that Cremeschi kid who runs his socks off. They’ve also got this Farrias chap to bed in, and I think they signed another young international CB from Argentina, Aviles, who hopefully can pass it out from the back.
I’ve never watched so many MLS matches before. Been to a few games here in Chicago, and it was always absolute shite. But been watching the Messi journey because it’s strangely exciting to have him in the leave and it’s easy to access on Apple TV. Tbh, still struggling to comprehend how bad most of the teams are. Mainly the defenders. They are just shockingly bad. Last night any goalkeeper worth his salt would’ve saved rhe first two goals with ease. Real Sunday league stuff.
Whats most fun about it is how ridiculously overhyped the commentators get. They are still shouting and creaming themselves after the final whistle. Every game is commentated like it’s the World Cup final. It’s strangely fun
Admittedly I’ve not watched a single game this season that didn’t involve Messi. Nor do I intend to.