Messi in Miami

I'm not sure if it's been discussed yet as I haven't read through the thread from the start - I imagine that another potential reason for Messi to choose the MLS is that it is a bit close to Argentina.

Its not that close to Argentina, but it may be a factor. I personally think that after completely football and sealing his legacy by winning the world cup, he wanted a semi retirement and the standard of living at the United States might be higher than anything on offer.
 
I'm not sure if it's been discussed yet as I haven't read through the thread from the start - I imagine that another potential reason for Messi to choose the MLS is that it is a bit close to Argentina.

For anyone with a private jet that is really none issues. He still has to show up for work.
 
I find it quite different. This now is purely a money making tour for Messi and all the other players who are filling their boots at the end. I still wouldn't be surprised if Messi ends up at Saudi at some point.

Same goes for Becks and the businessmen behind him.

I'm not begrudging them earning more but when you think of what they could be doing with their wealth amd status, this is all a bit hollow for me. The emotion from Becks is just odd.



I think you've got it the wrong way around. Money is the only reason its all taking place. It's not a coincidental happening.

Which is like I say fine.

I just struggle to understand Becks getting emotional etc. It all seems really hollow, shallow to me.

Extremely rich people getting even richer. It couldn't be any colder from my point of view.

So how much of their wealth should they give away for they to get a pass for feeling emotions such as joy and excitement? Is 20% ok in your eyes? Or that only buys you one emotion?


Give us your criteria man so we know what to do and how to feel in the future when we earn our own hundreds of millions.
 
Weird place to post this and also really off the mark. Firstly, Becks actually does a lot more community work and philanthropy than you seem to be aware of.

Secondly, his net worth combined with Victoria is something like $450million. While that's certainly a lot, the bigger global issue is an even more elite and powerful group of billionaires whose hoarding of wealth and resources will likely lend to the demise of humanity in many ways. The disdain you feel ought to be directed there first before you go after what's really a second or even third tier of wealth.

So before thinking Beckham's tears are a bit OTT and feeling extremely rich people getting richer is a bit hollow I first have to take on the worlds real superpowers.

Seems like a lot of hardwork.
 
I'm not sure if it's been discussed yet as I haven't read through the thread from the start - I imagine that another potential reason for Messi to choose the MLS is that it is a bit close to Argentina.
That could be.

next year’s Copa America will be held in the US, and I think that might’ve factored into his thinking.

the mls season runs from March through November. Instead of playing the Copa at the end of a long European season, he will be in mid-season form. MLS also has a longer offseason, too.

most players at his age prioritize their club over national team duty, but it seems that he’s doing the opposite.
 
So how much of their wealth should they give away for they to get a pass for feeling emotions such as joy and excitement? Is 20% ok in your eyes? Or that only buys you one emotion?


Give us your criteria man so we know what to do and how to feel in the future when we earn our own hundreds of millions.

They don't have to do anything nor do you when you make those millions.

I just don't really get Beckham or anyone involved getting all that carried away by it. It's all just so empty to me. The whole thing an exercise in making rich people richer. Same goes for Saudi obviously.

Take part, watch it, whatever you like. But it's a forum and you know, opinions and all that. Not everybody has to like it.
 
That could be.

next year’s Copa America will be held in the US, and I think that might’ve factored into his thinking.

the mls season runs from March through November. Instead of playing the Copa at the end of a long European season, he will be in mid-season form. MLS also has a longer offseason, too.

most players at his age prioritize their club over national team duty, but it seems that he’s doing the opposite.

This makes the most sense.
 
But i think that's the issue he's too big to be a squad option and his legacy is done and dusted. Now he can kick back and enjoy himself.

Yeah it makes a lot of sense. Even at 36 if he went to one of those sides he’d be arriving with massive expectation from the supporters, a potential tactical headache for a manager navigating a game where the collective has become king, with a player who doesn’t run, and a potential PR headache. We saw the difficulties Ronaldo kept creating for ETH, with ex players such as Keane and Ferdinand criticising the manager for limiting Ronaldo’s role despite the obvious on the field reasons for such a decision.

I can understand why as a football lover someone like Zehner would like to see Messi continue in certain leagues, but from Messi’s perspective it really does make perfect sense. He hasn’t enjoyed his club football at PSG and didn’t have a good relationship with the supporters, winning the league and domestic trophies didn’t mean that much they craved European success and let that be known. At Miami the pressure is going to be far lower and the supporters will be buzzing just watching him play and showing his magic.

Messi had nothing to gain from joining a top European side (unless he’d hypothetically wanted to). He has no unfinished business in football and has cemented his legacy as the best player of the modern era. He’s won everything there is to win, in his view it’s probably time to enjoy his football and have a healthy work/life balance.
 
They don't have to do anything nor do you when you make those millions.

I just don't really get Beckham or anyone involved getting all that carried away by it. It's all just so empty to me. The whole thing an exercise in making rich people richer. Same goes for Saudi obviously.

Take part, watch it, whatever you like. But it's a forum and you know, opinions and all that. Not everybody has to like it.

From Beckham’s perspective it makes a lot of sense as to why he’d get carried away in that instance though. It’s been a long held dream of his to own a football club (when he signed in 2007 one of the clauses was the right to buy a side in the league for a certain amount), so it’s obviously something important to him and years after realising that dream he signs the greatest player of all time and watches him score a last minute winner in his debut.

Of course you don’t have to like it, for example people who post footie clips set to emotional music and caption it with “tearing up right now we’ll never see his like again. Goodbye king” because a player left for a new club after a couple seasons will always be massive melts to me, in this scenario though it wasn’t because you said you didn’t like it but that you didn’t “get” why Beckham would get emotional.

I don’t like it either, although I don’t dislike it either I’m just fairly apathetic about that particular situation. But l get why Beckham has strong emotions there.
 
Seems like a lot of hardwork.
Fair enough. Easy route again -
Moaning about people that have worked harder and more astutely than you to get where they are financially is quite easy. No harm in it though as it's a pointless opinion that will never make a difference. Just a rancid fart in the wind.
 
Fair enough. Easy route again -
Moaning about people that have worked harder and more astutely than you to get where they are financially is quite easy. No harm in it though as it's a pointless opinion that will never make a difference. Just a rancid fart in the wind.

Same way I couldn’t understand why that poster didn’t get why Beckham got emotional, this also isn’t true either. Feel free to defend Beckham, but the logic used here doesn’t hold up. The logic could actually be applied to your last post.

The bigger global issue is an even more elite and powerful group of billionaires whose hoarding of wealth and resources will likely lend to the demise of humanity in many ways. The disdain you feel ought to be directed there first before you go after what's really a second or even third tier of wealth.

“Moaning about people that have worked harder and more astutely than you to get where they are financially is quite easy.”

Of course the reality is that you have no idea how hard that poster has worked and are basing it on zero evidence. Just as I have no idea how hard you’ve worked, so I’m not going to tell you to stop moaning about people who have worked harder than you to achieve their finances. As a random example I think most people would agree nurses work hard, but they’re also not paid much.

Rancid fart in the wind
That line is great to be fair though :lol:
 
Same way I couldn’t understand why that poster didn’t get why Beckham got emotional, this also isn’t true either. Feel free to defend Beckham, but the logic used here doesn’t hold up. The logic could actually be applied to your last post.



“Moaning about people that have worked harder and more astutely than you to get where they are financially is quite easy.”

Of course the reality is that you have no idea how hard that poster has worked and are basing it on zero evidence. Just as I have no idea how hard you’ve worked, so I’m not going to tell you to stop moaning about people who have worked harder than you to achieve their finances. As a random example I think most people would agree nurses work hard, but they’re also not paid much.


That line is great to be fair though :lol:

My argument isn't the best, but really I just find it pathetic to get mad at certain types of rich people for being rich. Beckhams one type that made his own way and I commend that and class it differently than ones that have made wealth from wealth and /or cheated and manipulated their way into it

We're now way off subject here. Messi is awesome.
 
My argument isn't the best, but really I just find it pathetic to get mad at certain types of rich people for being rich. Beckhams one type that made his own way and I commend that and class it differently than ones that have made wealth from wealth and /or cheated and manipulated their way into it

We're now way off subject here. Messi is awesome.

Yeah I do think regarding the situation that spawned the discussion that I don’t see how someone wouldn’t be moved in that position. Owning a football club, signing Messi and then a fairytale debut like that must be one hell of a high. It’d interesting to see how much of an influence Beckham had on him choosing them too, it sounds like they had a pre-existing relationship of at least some kind.
 
Weird place to post this and also really off the mark. Firstly, Becks actually does a lot more community work and philanthropy than you seem to be aware of.

Secondly, his net worth combined with Victoria is something like $450million. While that's certainly a lot, the bigger global issue is an even more elite and powerful group of billionaires whose hoarding of wealth and resources will likely lend to the demise of humanity in many ways. The disdain you feel ought to be directed there first before you go after what's really a second or even third tier of wealth.

Fair enough. Easy route again -
Moaning about people that have worked harder and more astutely than you to get where they are financially is quite easy. No harm in it though as it's a pointless opinion that will never make a difference. Just a rancid fart in the wind.

Such personal and intense. Like your style.
 
Such personal and intense. Like your style.

Sorry if it comes off that way. Haven't even looked at who posted any of it - could have been two or three separate posters and gone over me. You ever see that thread about whether posters think before they comment? That's me in nutshell .I've typed quickly while on the shitter, struggling because these fckers put dairy in my food last night despite my noting an allergy, and hitting send when I flush and not looking back. Probably where the fart analogies come from.
 
Why the hate on Becks ? He took a risk and won against oil money to get the GOAT. From a businessman's perspective that clutch goal means a lot. Messi will be the ticket on Becks' way to become a billionaire.
 
2 in 20 minutes....
Don't usually watch the mls but it's like he's playing against amateurs out there, It's a shame the best player in the world isn't in Europe anymore.
 
I find it quite different. This now is purely a money making tour for Messi and all the other players who are filling their boots at the end. I still wouldn't be surprised if Messi ends up at Saudi at some point.

Same goes for Becks and the businessmen behind him.

I'm not begrudging them earning more but when you think of what they could be doing with their wealth amd status, this is all a bit hollow for me. The emotion from Becks is just odd.

If it was solely money, he'd have gone to Saudi Arabia and I'm glad he didn't. There's nothing wrong with playing in the MLS for money. I'm pretty sure Miami haven't killed anyone. (I mean Miami the club, Miami the city has killed loads of people presumably).
 
Why? What's noble about Europe?
People tend to want the best playing the best. If Giannis or Tatum decided to go and play in Germany, most basketball fans would lament that scenario.
 
I did not expect to enjoy inter Miami this much. Great first half, even if the defense is a bit shocking :lol:
 
People tend to want the best playing the best. If Giannis or Tatum decided to go and play in Germany, most basketball fans would lament that scenario.

for sure, but let’s lebron goes to Saudi Arabia, he’s old enough that it wouldn’t be great but people had already seen him in the nba for 20 years
 
He still probably had another year or two in Europe before his legs truly gave out like Ronaldos did at United. But MLS suits him as he doesn't have to run so much and the defences aren't great, and unlike a lot of players that went to MLS he still has most of his technical ability
 
He was mostly walking around in the world cup too tbf

Wanna know a wild stat?

He has made more tackles, won more ground duels and attempted more tackles than Mbappe, Neymar, Haaland and Kane in 2023/23.

So deceptive, but here he is putting in more defensive work in the opposition third than the current peak strikers. :lol:
 
Atlanta player just literally turns around and passes the ball directly to Messi to start a 2v2 counter attack. 4-0. :lol:
 
This is a great move for him. He will be loved, he's still producing the goods that gives him an elevation of status irrespective of quality, he has the weather and a strong south American community in Miami too.