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Yep, apparently I was wrong. Shoot me.
Yep, apparently I was wrong. Shoot me.
It's sad how bad the rest of the team is though. He could have been a lot better if he wasn't their only source of pretty much everything.Haven't really seen this much individual brilliance carrying a team in 1 world cup, let alone just after 3 group games.
Just to clarify, the first world cup I can remember was USA'94.
3 of his 4 goals were absolute belters to boot
Sorry that just worked out perfectlyI knew I'd receive a reply within minutes
Yep, apparently I was wrong. Shoot me.
It definitely wasn't 5 years ago. His lethargic nature is a recent phenomenon and it's very odd really because messi used to always be buzzing about earlier. Something is clearly up with him. I haven't a clue what but it's strange to see a player who was always on the move to be strolling about at times.There is a bit of a mythology built up about Messi, such as how hard-working he is, a reputation built up on the basis of some pressing and chasing back five years ago. Refreshing to hear Ferdinand challenge it, albeit his point about "demanding the ball" wasn't really the best example.
It definitely wasn't 5 years ago. His lethargic nature is a recent phenomenon and it's very odd really because messi used to always be buzzing about earlier. Something is clearly up with him. I haven't a clue what but it's strange to see a player who was always on the move to be strolling about at times.
Pretty telling of just how great a player he has been, in that case.He's a mere shadow of that once great player.
I believe there is something medically wrong with him. Fans have noticed how often he is physically sick in matches, could be linked to his health issues earlier in life? Im sure if you google it something will come up
I'm hoping he'll regain his acceleration, all players have lost that extra bit of pace and adapted...fingers crossed he's not having to change this early in his career.Pretty telling of just how great a player he has been, in that case.
He made 6 tackles. The most in the game, tied with Zabaleta.
It would be very unusual, though, to lose pace at the age of 26.I'm hoping he'll regain his acceleration, all players have lost that extra bit of pace and adapted...fingers crossed he's not having to change this early in his career.
6 tackles today, that's after a long time. I can't remember when that last happened. Not in 2014 for sure.
He still has the most successful dribbles in world cup. 2nd is Di Maria, 3rd Alexis.
If that's not enough, he produced 18 key passes so far, against highest among all players. Robben has 11.
He is creating chances, scoring them. I don't understand what more people want him to do??
Lots of things come up if you google anything, doesn't make them true.
He used to be so damn good , now he is still way better than a lot of players but he is the shadow of who he was..really.
I'd agree with that. It's just that a we've seen him at his best taking the piss with outrageous consistency. And it's hard to remove that from the back of the mind when judging him.Rightly or wrongly he's judged on higher standards than other players. I think he's had a fantastic tournament by anyone elses standard but still some way short of his best.
He used to be so damn good , now he is still way better than a lot of players but he is the shadow of who he was..really.
You can say that with any player thoughHe was ok today. Just goes to show how important his supporting cast at Barca have been, and how not having that support with Argentina makes him look more like Ronaldo with Portugal.
Stop making things up. When he was in the form of his life he wasn't all that great for Argentina, it's the other way around right now, and to call him a shadow of who he was is ridiculous. Injury plagued season, 40+ goals, helped a rubbish Barcelona side to the Copa final and the final day of the season, shit players don't score hat-tricks at the Bernabeu.
Jesus read the title of the thread. No Ronaldo comparisons.As much as Messi setting up goals may suggest he's a great team player do you think he's much more likely than Ronaldo to pass to a team-mate in a better position in the last minute of the World cup final?
Messi is a unique talent, he played in a unique team. And this talent coupled with the possession style if his team and dominance will result in lots of assists. It doesn't mean he plays more for the team.
And he doesn't in my opinion. Neither does Ronaldo (to a greater extent than Messi), but Messi's had the platform (via a very unique team) to disguise it.
You obviously disagree, and we'll be going in circles.
Rightly or wrongly he's judged on higher standards than other players. I think he's had a fantastic tournament by anyone elses standard but still some way short of his best.
You can say that with any player though
People always lavish over Ronaldo and Zidane's performances at international level but both played with far superior players than Messi and Ronaldo did.
Wait, are you saying Messi is shit? No wonder you're in the noobs.Another myth.
1) Messi wasn't the only player injured, so you're making up excuses, exactly what you accuse others of doing.
2) Many of those 40 goals have come from the penalty spot, especially all the ones late in the season.
3) Shit players don't score hat-tricks at the Bernabeu, but they might if they're given the chance to score 2 penos.
4) Helping your side reach a final and go on to lose it is not an achievement.
Wait, are you saying Messi is shit? No wonder you're in the noobs.
Well you're basically shooting down everything he did last season.Quote me.
Opps, never said that. Nice try.