How serious? @NL MaxApparently got injurred during the game against the USA
http://www.nu.nl/voetbal/4064677/oranje-traint-zonder-licht-geblesseerde-depay-in-katwijk.html
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The article says it is a slight foot injurry nothing too serious but he isn't playing in the qualifier against latvia
Cheers, nothing to worry about then!
He got a knock against the United States so he didn't train yet, the article I'm reading suggests that he can make it for the game against Latvia though. It's a light foot injury. It's also an important qualifier, Hiddink is doing a terrible job at the moment and could fail to qualify..
Cheers, nothing to worry about then!
Hopefully you never know with these things, just hope he doesn't get rushed back to play for the qualifier and somehow aggrevates the injurry
Hopefully you never know with these things, just hope he doesn't get rushed back to play for the qualifier and somehow aggrevates the injurry
Voetbal International writes that he's expected to play against Latvia so it won't be a bad injury, he's only (right now) missed the first training session.
A bit off topic, but any PES lovers should play Memphis after the update. I put him into the United team and he scores for fun. Has pace, power, powerful shooting, balance. Its as fun as playing as Ronaldo.
... but can he celebrate after scoring like Nani ?
If you edit his celebration, why not.
... but can I edit his shirt name to NL Max ?
United want to get one more day of headlines out of Memphis and so at a press conference tomorrow, 5pm GMT, United CEO Ed Woodward will be presenting the media with a picture of Van Gaal resting his nut sack on the forhead of the Dutch international.
Hope NL Max is ok.
@NL Max what number are you getting?
Educated guess is 17, I'll fight Blind for it.
Since all of your regular numbers are occupied I reckon you'll get nr 19, would make sense for a half-winger half-striker.
He's not a Manchester United player officially, the light injury will actually be a light injury and not keep him out for 3 months.
Not to go off topic but why is Hiddink doing so badly at the minute? Manager of his quality should be doing better.
Reading another forum I visit, the Dutch fans are extremely pessimistic over the future of their national team (and league tbf). They're dreading the day when Robben, Van Persie (though they're debating his actual use) and Sneijder retire from internationals. They only reckon Depay will become something, the rest they have no faith in.
Maybe the Dutch folk on here have another take on their national team.
He trained today
There are a few youngsters coming through which I feel have the potential to be stars. Depay, Clasie, Klaassen & Bazoer are a few. The problem is that they are all youngers. When RvP, Robben & Sneijder retire, we'll lose a lot of routine in the team and I don't think they will be the ones that are capable of brining that back, especially due to their age.
He seems like the type of player who will keep trying no matter what, if hes having a bad 20 minutes, he wont look to shrug of the responsibility but he will keep pounding away trying to contribute.
Yes i am dreading the day they will retire. Depay could become a very good player and maybe de Vrij wil become a very good defender too but otherwise i don't see much quality in the team.
We've got a decent goalkeeper with Cilissen but a defense with de Vrij matched with Bruma, van der Wiel, Janmaat, Indi, Rekik and Willems (Willems is good at attacking though) is shockingly bad.
A midfield with Blind, Wijnaldum and Clasie isnt going to scare anyone. Our attack also takes a huge decrease in quality, we currently have former BPL and Bundesliga topscores but when they retire we get Luuk de Jong (failed at Gladbach and Newcastle) or Bas Dost.
This generation of younger players is just not very good. Thankfully the next generation looks like it will be much better. Ajax got a brilliant youth side at this moment, Bazoer looks the real deal, Fosu Mensah looks like a talent.
We could become a 'poor mans Portugal' with Depay being the so called next Ronaldo. I doubt Depay will be as good as Ronaldo is but i dont think our other NT players will become as good as some other Portugese players.
There's no reason for short term optimism, but mainly because Van Gaal isn't the manager anymore. Pessimism is of course fed by the short term, but there is a gap coming. The next generation is Depay and..... Thats about it and he won't be as good as Robben. But that is also a bit of coincedence, Strootman has injury problems, Maher failed to make progress until february, a couple of good talents coming through and progressing smoothly can change the picture. The Defense is the real problem, without good defenders it's difficult to play attacking football. Van Gaal is the kind of manager who helps players with their decision making on the pitch, without him, they show how poor they really are.
There's also younger talent, the problem is that none of the big two nor Feijenoord are showing that they develop talent very well. They have promising players and they make their debut at 17-21 at a fine level, but after that they don't progress much. Depay is the exception. So there's enough talent in attack and midfield, allthough it won't be a brilliant generation, but the managers at the big clubs have to do a better job with their development.
Oh wow, totally forgot about Strootman. If his injury problems go away he could actually be very good. Future captain.
For some reason we decided to train a legion of belgium/danish talents instead of our own. Depay is one of the only thats around the quality of our useall stars (maybe Clasie can grow out to be one) the rest is just far behind, especially in defense.
But the big problem is the coach, not the players. Hiddink is a ignorant idiot that is completely ruining our national squad.
Harsh, but true.
Hope he plays against Latvia. Really excited about this one
Willems, Klaassen, Strootman, Depay, de Vrij, van Ginkel are huge talents, while Blind and VdW play at world class clubs as starters. Cillesen, Clasie, Wijnaldum, van Dijk will move to the subtop level of the world soon. We are no world cup final favourites, but with a good trainer, a solid team could be made. And I can see Sneijder, Robben, Huntelaar being regulars for the coming 2 years, by that time, our talents will have grown.
Probably kicked someone's studs, bit of uncomfortable bruising but that's all would be my guess, especially if he trained today.
Van Gaal still had Strootman, van Persie, Sneijder and Robben in their prime form. After that there is a gap in quality where we only have some subquality veterans like Vlaar and de Jong. LvG knew there wasn't enough quality without Strootman and went pragmatic, Hiddink is insisting on 'winning +', by using the Dutch school of attacking football with substandard players.
Blind, Willems, Clasie, Memphis, Bazoer, Fosu-Mensah, Strootman, van Ginkel, van Dijk, de Vrij are all looking likely to be the core of the future, but most are still too young and we don't have the next Sneijder or RvP at the moment. Talents like Maher, Klaassen, Rekik and Bruma aren't good enough yet and will need to make a step up in the coming years. Short term I'm pessimistic but we'll manage in the long run, I'm starting to think Hiddink might actually fail to qualify though.
Training session today had a XI of
Cillessen
Janmaat - de Vrij - Martins Indi - Willems
Sneijder - Blind
Narsingh - RvP - Lens
Huntelaar
Tomorrow the Netherlands train behind closed doors, but this could hint at Memphis not playing on friday in the crucial qualifier against Latvia. This would probably be because of injury, but could also be a way to shore up the defence a bit with Lens because Willems is an ultra attacking leftback. I doubt the latter though since Memphis and Willems linked up fantastically at PSV.Janmaat - de Vrij - Martins Indi - Willems
Sneijder - Blind
Narsingh - RvP - Lens
Huntelaar
Surprised to see Sneijder over Winaldum. Winaldum isn't great, but his mobility helped the attack against the U.S with RVP and Huntelaar being slow and the wingers being so wide.
That back line looks pretty good going forward. Strootman for Sneijder and one of the many 10's emerging into a star are badly needed, though.
RVP in the hole, will be nice to see him with more time on the ball.
Considering Huntelaar is 41 goals in 40 interlands, Hiddink is pretty much forced to play him, and RvP is undroppable.
Nothing forces him to play Huntelaar or Van Persie. If Van Persie's season was poor, Huntelaar's was dreadful. He doesn't dare to drop Huntelaar because his head is on the chopping board and it will come off if he drops the crowd's and media's favorite. He doesn't dare drop Van Persie, because he knows Huntelaar hasn't got the technical ability to do the whole centre forward's job on his own.
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Fair points. It's a bit of a shit situation really.
Wow, I messed up my stats there then. Still, not a bad return.
He was very meh there in the game against USA
Watch RVP bang in a hat Trick tonight from link up play with Memphis and we'll all be declaring our striker worries are over for the season.
Confirmed XI of the Netherlands tomorrow against Latvia:
Cillessen
van der Wiel - de Vrij - Martins Indi - Willems
Sneijder - Blind
Narsingh - van Persie - Memphis
Huntelaar
van der Wiel - de Vrij - Martins Indi - Willems
Sneijder - Blind
Narsingh - van Persie - Memphis
Huntelaar
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