Memphis Depay | PSV confirm deal with Man Utd is agreed!

[Devil may care]

No doubt Memphis isn't quite Hazard or Isco class. They had like you said, some magical stuff in their locker which made them future Ballon D'Or candidates. What I'm arguing however is that while Memphis isn't exactly in their vicinity from an individual skillset standpoint, he's no agricultural grafter by any means either, the type of tangible output and the ability to play within the constraints of a structure defined by the manager that he exhibits is an oftentimes overlooked factor while evaluating players and their long term development.

Van Gaal always judges his players by their footballing intelligence, determination, attention to detail, ability to work hard for the team-mates around him and effectiveness in his overall philosophy so to speak. He doesn't care if a player can beat 5 defenders, or pull an impromptu rabona, or nutmeg a player of the edge of the box or execute other superficially brilliant things of that nature. Because those things don't add anything tangible to the overall result, and the ball always travels better in space, than by a player running with it.

Jari Litmanen wasn't the most skilled player in the world, he certainly was no Gheorghe Hagi or Jean-Pierre Papin. But he was arguably the biggest offensive difference maker in Van Gaal's Ajax team that dominated Europe for a period of 3 seasons. No one will mistake Thomas Muller for Rui Costa, but he's superbly efficient in what he does and arguably the better player despite his individual shortcoming.

Memphis has enough individual talent to one day day be a Top 15 or even 10 caliber player, I truly believe that. He might never be an Isco or Hazard or even Sterling who are more naturally gifted, and if they develop properly, seem destined for greater individual accomplishments.

But if can come in, show good defensive workrate (like he did vs Spain for example), produce interspersed moments of magic, be productive, score in the neighbor-hood of 15 or 20 goals per season, and help further Van Gaal's philosophy, then he'll be an excellent addition considering the price tag. You don't always need multiple superstars to win or play attractive football. Teamwork, tactical intelligence, execution of the game-plan and productivity is paramount.

I guess part of this is what concerns me, it's like we are systematically removing instinct and individuality out of the team. I can see structure as vital defensively and even with midfield, but structural wingers seems to be a strange way to approach things. Maybe I'm just too much of a romanticist but I miss a bit of genuine flair out wide for us.

You clearly see his ceiling a lot higher than I do and in fairness the interest in him from so many top teams supports you over me. I just wonder if he can come straight in and play in that front 3, if not it means more Young and us treading water in regards to the forward line.

 

[Gambit]

Depay is in the Hazard/Isco class.

 

[RDCR07]

Im glad we have Van Gaal. There is no chance he is signing for us, if Bayern are involved, if we dont have Van Gaal.

 

[NJM78]

Van Gaal is to this deal what Pep was to Thiago. We know how that ended, this will go the same way.

The only concern I have is if Depay is our 2nd choice target and while we try and get the 1st one, he ends up signing elsewhere.

I hope you are right, Peps brother being Thiago's agent and a coach that managed him at Barca for three years and gave him his debut. I know LvG gave Memphis his dutch debut but how much stronger is the bond than that, just curious?

 

[RDCR07]

I hope you are right, Peps brother being Thiago's agent and a coach that managed him at Barca for three years and gave him his debut. I know LvG gave Memphis his dutch debut but how much stronger is the bond than that, just curious?

Memphis is like his second son, the first being Strootman.

 

[NL Max]

I hope you are right, Peps brother being Thiago's agent and a coach that managed him at Barca for three years and gave him his debut. I know LvG gave Memphis his dutch debut but how much stronger is the bond than that, just curious?

Memphis was selected for the national team at age 19. It was his first season and he wasn't even first choice at PSV the start. Van Gaal could've chosen different wingers from the ED but he chose him, this changed him.

At that time Memphis still had personal problems. He used to be a bad boy (tough youth, bad friends, petty crimes, not going to school etc), after he was called up he seemed much more focussed. He didn't show off money anymore, cut connections with bad influences, he hired professionals for his personal life and had an enormous drive to become better. He got over all his problems in no time. He called van Gaal an important man in his life. (this won't be all down to van Gaal mind - but I'm sure he had a hand in this)

Van Gaal likes to work with young players, he also has his 'totale mens principe'. He cares about his player and his office door is open 24/7 for a talk which doesn't have to be related to football. He wants his players to be happy, he thinks they'll perform better this way. Hugo Borst says van Gaal is like a father figure (Memphis never had contact with his father). I'm not sure if this is true because I don't rate Borst that highly, but it could be. I'm sure van Gaal is the right man to improve Memphis, he loves bringing trough young players.

That's why I have no doubt he will choose for us. Bayern Munchen is the only serious competition (Robben), but I don't think they can match the van Gaal factor. He also favored 2 tweets which linked him to us.

 

[NJM78]

Memphis was selected for the national team at age 19. It was his first season and he wasn't even first choice at PSV the start. Van Gaal could've chosen different wingers from the ED but he chose him, this changed him.

At that time Memphis still had personal problems. He used to be a bad boy (tough youth, bad friends, petty crimes, not going to school etc), after he was called up he seemed much more focussed. He didn't show off money anymore, cut connections with bad influences, he hired professionals for his personal life and had an enormous drive to become better. He got over all his problems in no time. He called van Gaal an important man in his life. (this won't be all down to van Gaal mind - but I'm sure he had a hand in this)

Van Gaal likes to work with young players, he also has his 'totale mens principe'. He cares about his player and his office door is open 24/7 for a talk which doesn't have to be related to football. He wants his players to be happy, he thinks they'll perform better this way. Hugo Borst says van Gaal is like a father figure (Memphis never had contact with his father). I'm not sure if this is true because I don't rate Borst that highly, but it could be. I'm sure van Gaal is the right man to improve Memphis, he loves bringing trough young players.

That's why I have no doubt he will choose for us. Bayern Munchen is the only serious competition (Robben), but I don't think they can match the van Gaal factor. He also favored 2 tweets which linked him to us.

Thanks, that does sound promising. I hope we get the deal sorted asap or maybe Memphis wants to see if we get CL football first which is still not guaranteed although it would be a huge balls up should we miss out from here. I know PSV will want a bidding war which is fair but I really do fear Bayern and especially Real when they are also interested in players we apparently want. Its a good Job Chelsea have Hazard as they also love to f*ck us over and kill my muppet dreams!

 

[Kill 'em all]

Favourited 2 tweets linking him to us? Get in!

 

[NL Max]

Thanks, that does sound promising. I hope we get the deal sorted asap or maybe Memphis wants to see if we get CL football first which is still not guaranteed although it would be a huge balls up should we miss out from here. I know PSV will want a bidding war which is fair but I really do fear Bayern and especially Real when they are also interested in players we apparently want. Its a good Job Chelsea have Hazard as they also love to f*ck us over and kill my muppet dreams!

Not true. They've told Memphis his agent that they're accepting offers in the region of 25m+ Euro. After this Memphis gets to decide where he wants to go, they made this gentlemens agreement last year. Tottenham offered 20m last year but PSV refused (Dutch clubs normally can't do this) so they're willing to sell him to the club which he wants.

No club can match the van Gaal factor.

 

[RDCR07]

Thanks, that does sound promising. I hope we get the deal sorted asap or maybe Memphis wants to see if we get CL football first which is still not guaranteed although it would be a huge balls up should we miss out from here. I know PSV will want a bidding war which is fair but I really do fear Bayern and especially Real when they are also interested in players we apparently want. Its a good Job Chelsea have Hazard as they also love to f*ck us over and kill my muppet dreams!

Real arent even in the race for him. They dont care. Bayern on the other hand is a different story. Unless we miss out on the Champions League to either Spurs or Pool we dont have to worry about them either.

 

[NJM78]

Not true. They've told Memphis his agent that they're accepting offers in the region of 25m+ Euro. After this Memphis gets to decide where he wants to go, they made this gentlemens agreement last year. Tottenham offered 20m last year but PSV refused (Dutch clubs normally can't do this) so they're willing to sell him to the club which he wants.

No club can match the van Gaal factor.

I read that but wasn't sure if just some rumour rubbish. If that is true then surely we can get it wrapped up as soon as.

 

[NJM78]

Real arent even in the race for him. They dont care. Bayern on the other hand is a different story. Unless we miss out on the Champions League to either Spurs or Pool we dont have to worry about them either.

I know Real are not after Depay but just in general over the years.
Yes with CL football to offer Liverpool and Spurs don't worry me in the slightest.

 

[NL Max]

I read that but wasn't sure if just some rumour rubbish. If that is true then surely we can get it wrapped up as soon as.

Nope, reported by Eindhovens Dagblad - a local newspaper. They've got their own PSV watcher Rik Elfrink and they're reliable.

It makes sense that we haven't been in for him before. He only became champion last week and I'm sure he wasn't focussed on anything else yet. My muppet heart is hoping it'll be done soon now. The reports are certainly picking up again after it was quiet for a while. (I only read reliable reports - Thijs Slegers, VI & Rik Elfrink).

 

[limerickcitykid]

Favourited 2 tweets linking him to us? Get in!

This is whats most important imo. Feck the articles and journalists. Get straight to Memphis' twitter/instagram etc. That is where the good stuff is.

 

[NJM78]

Nope, reported by Eindhovens Dagblad - a local newspaper. They've got their own PSV watcher Rik Elfrink and they're reliable.

It makes sense that we haven't been in for him before. He only became champion last week and I'm sure he wasn't focussed on anything else yet. My muppet heart is hoping it'll be done soon now. The reports are certainly picking up again after it was quiet for a while. (I only read reliable reports - Thijs Slegers, VI & Rik Elfrink).

Yes the title being wrapped up will now surely free his mind for some serious thoughts about his future. I'm definitely optimistic about us signing him and being a top player for us next season especially with a full pre season under his belt. Obviously CL qualification our priority and then ideally wrap up all our deals before our pre season tour starts.

 

[ThanksBoss26]

Yes the title being wrapped up will now surely free his mind for some serious thoughts about his future. I'm definitely optimistic about us signing him and being a top player for us next season especially with a full pre season under his belt. Obviously CL qualification our priority and then ideally wrap up all our deals before our pre season tour starts.

This is important I think, something we've not managed to do in the last two summers. We should have a more settled time this year and be in a better position to do so.

 

[Hernandez - BFA]

That's one thing about the Dutch league that I like - there doesn't seem to be inflated prices when players leave. If Depay played in Italy or France, then £40million would be wanted by the owners.

 

[Kill 'em all]

This is whats most important imo. Feck the articles and journalists. Get straight to Memphis' twitter/instagram etc. That is where the good stuff is.

Yes, I refresh his twitter account everyday to check if he's recently followed any Manchester United players or related accounts.

 

[ravi2]

Next thing you know Depay tweets about signing for the Champions of Europe.

In the past i might have been concerned but with LVG as our manager Depay is as good as ours. This transfer season is going to be one of our best as we have a clear vision as to who we need and the money to make it happen.

 

[Zoo]

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Thought this was a done deal?

 

[NL Max]

Posted this in transfer tweets, this might be more appropriate place. The article Thijs is talking about:

http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/depay-heeft-orienterend-gesprek-met-psg.htm

Memphis Depay hasn't rejected PSG their offer instantly, he's been to Paris to hear the plans from PSG.

Manchester United and Liverpool have also shown interest. The line between van Gaal and Marcel Brands (PSV) is a short one (this means the deal can be done quick just like with Blind) and the scouting from United have approved Memphis. Liverpool wants to join in aswell but so far have the most hesitation from all the clubs. The asking price of 25m Euro won't be a problem for the interested clubs.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Thought this was a done deal?

If LvG wants him and he goes to PSG because we are messing about, he will blow a gasket.

 

[Mister_Stubbs]

Why are we waiting so long to get this simple deal done? All i keep hearing is that the lad himself wants the move, we want the player.. get it done before someone else does. If we haven't already done so in secret.

 

[RDCR07]

Motherflipper. PSG too?

 

[NL Max]

Why are we waiting so long to get this simple deal done? All i keep hearing is that the lad himself wants the move, we want the player.. get it done before someone else does. If we haven't already done so in secret.

He only became champion last weekend. I'm sure he wasn't interested in anything else before this. We've had contact and I'm sure van Gaal will want this deal done soon rather than later.

 

[Rado_N]

His agent is doing his job.

 

[DWelbz19]

Piss off Paris. Probably their plan to sign Memphis and flog Cavani to us.

 

[GloryHunter07]

Thought this was a done deal?

We've made an enquiry but no formal talks, so no.

 

[Firstouch20]

“At first I did not know where I had to run through, but Robin has been working hard with me in Oranje". - Depay

Van Persie is Depays mentor. Robin has been working closely with him in the dutch national team. When depay scored his first ever world cup goal, he ran straight to RvP.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

We've made an enquiry but no formal talks, so no.

Which is what I thought. Some seem to think we've already signed him.

 

[limerickcitykid]

“At first I did not know where I had to run through, but Robin has been working hard with me in Oranje". - Depay

Van Persie is Depays mentor. Robin has been working closely with him in the dutch national team

He knows all about van Persie's coveted space eh?

 

[Van Piorsing]

He got tons of people here who care for him. Van Gaal advised him to stay one more season in PSV and it was again a fantastic decision.

He looks more confident than ever as a footballer plus he already gained title winning experience.

 

[royboy16]

We hold all the cards for his signature,we have a history of having great Dutch players play for Utd over the years,Ruud,Edwin,Jaap,RVP..
Our manager is Dutch.
Id be very surprised if he's not playing for us next season.

 

[sun_tzu]

We hold all the cards for his signature,we have a history of having great Dutch players play for Utd over the years,Ruud,Edwin,Jaap,RVP..
Our manager is Dutch.
Id be very surprised if he's not playing for us next season.

Van der guow, buttner, muhren, cruyff, as well so let's say our experience with Dutch players is mixed.

 

[Sied]

at the PSG panic. Surely it would have been very odd if there was no competition for his signature?

 

[Rado_N]

at the PSG panic. Surely it would have been very odd if there was no competition for his signature?

Exactly, I mean if nobody else wanted him he'd clearly be shit.

 

[NL Max]

at the PSG panic. Surely it would have been very odd if there was no competition for his signature?

Memphis always had an eye for money and a rich lifestyle. Why would he say no to a private jet to Paris, being picked up by a Maybach and being dropped off back home after a small conversation?

I'm not worried about them in the slightest either. The article on VI says the owner from PSG will give the green sign for his club to pay the amount PSV wants when Memphis agrees to join them, he isn't obliged to decide right now. I'm sure the offer from us will please him alot more and that he's just listening to all options before he decides. I think it's a smart thing to do from him.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

Not going to get drawn into this one as it's clear we are favourites all day long, it just doesn't require any nervous tension been wasted on it, unlike Thiago, and Hazard!

But it'll either happen, or it won't.

 

[Browniee]

He's already ours, PSG have no chance