UnitedBoy
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I'm a fan. But really disappointed with his 1v1
How is it short sighted? I don't think you know what that means.
No one's saying we should sell him or that he should never ever start a league game again. He's being called out for being poor in the league, which he undoubtedly has been.
Not sure why people keep bringing up Ronaldo and Nani. Aside from the fact that both looked a lot more polished in their debut seasons both of them started less than half our games in their first season. Depay is on track to start over 30 games at the current rate despite doing very little when he actually plays. If for nothing else he needs to be dropped to give him some 'rest'.
Yeah, that's what has disappointed me the most, tbh. I see people comparing him to Nani, but he's twice the dribbler Depay is, in my opinion. Memphis does seem to be stronger mentally, and more of a goalscorer though. He's more like Ronaldo than Nani, despite being more similar in stature to the latter.I'm a fan. But really disappointed with his 1v1
I'm not confused at all thank you. What's Depay if not inconsistent and infuriating?No he was not. Ronaldo at 18 was a very infuriating and inconsistent player. He was a one trick pony and although he beat his man many times, he did not have much end product. Not to mention that he didn't have two player glued to him all game and he was not first choice winger for us.
Don't let Ronaldo's current standards confuse you with what he was at 18.
He's got no assists in 7 games in the league. He's got three assists I can remember. They were against Bruges and Ipswich.4 goals and 4 assists in 10 games, is that right? That strikes me as a very good start, and that's ignoring the moments of wonderful quality that he shows every match.
Consistency will come as he settles in. For a youngster new to the club and the league, he's well on track.
He got an assist vs Southampton.He's got no assists in 7 games in the league. He's got three assists I can remember. They were against Bruges and Ipswich.
Defenders always seem to get the ball of him in those situations.I'm a fan. But really disappointed with his 1v1
Hitting the post isn't an assist.He got an assist vs Southampton.
It's officially counted as an assist. He still created the goal.Hitting the post isn't an assist.
It's not on whoscored. Crediting somebody for doing something he never tried to do is silly. He shot and missed.It's officially counted as an assist. He still created the goal.
It's on the PL website and transfermarkt.It's not on whoscored. Crediting somebody for doing something he never tried to do is silly. He shot and missed.
It's not on whoscored. Crediting somebody for doing something he never tried to do is silly. He shot and missed.
And that's silly too. It's the kind of stretching to justify performances that people used to do for Kagawa and it's an example of why stats can be misleading. I watch him and I don't see a creative player at all. I see a goal scorer albeit one that isn't a great finisher yet. His movement to get opportunities has been great at times and it's what's stood out. What's also stood out is very poor decision making, playing with his head down and seemingly incapable of getting away from a full back. He slows our play down more than Mata does.I think di Maria got credited for 3 assist that were all deflected shots.
And that's silly too. It's the kind of stretching to justify performances that people used to do for Kagawa and it's an example of why stats can be misleading. I watch him and I don't see a creative player at all. I see a goal scorer albeit one that isn't a great finisher yet. His movement to get opportunities has been great at times and it's what's stood out. What's also stood out is very poor decision making, playing with his head down and seemingly incapable of getting away from a full back. He slows our play down more than Mata does.
Yes he is inconsistent and that is why I compared him to the Ronaldo of 19-20 when he had bags of potential but his decision making let him down at times. That is why I said I see similar ability in Depay but his inconsistency will improve with time.I'm not confused at all thank you. What's Depay if not inconsistent and infuriating?
But Depay isn't that age and Ronaldo was better. If you want to compare them it should be done at the same age. Though comparing them is going to end in disappointment.Yes he is inconsistent and that is why I compared him to the Ronaldo of 19-20 when he had bags of potential but his decision making let him down at times. That is why I said I see similar ability in Depay but his inconsistency will improve with time.
Yeah, that's what has disappointed me the most, tbh. I see people comparing him to Nani, but he's twice the dribbler Depay is, in my opinion. Memphis does seem to be stronger mentally, and more of a goalscorer though. He's more like Ronaldo than Nani, despite being more similar in stature to the latter.
It's not on whoscored. Crediting somebody for doing something he never tried to do is silly. He shot and missed.
I think it is just comparing inconsistency rather than any specific trait.The Nani comparisons are just incredibly lazy imo. He's nothing like Nani, who was a genuinely fantastic dribbler, with a great long shot and crossing ability. Memphis hasn't shown any of that...yet.
He did and it was a great piece of play. It's not really an example of him being creative. Where's the 5 come from?He produced an extremely good run and shot, beating the keeper, and as a result Mata was able to score. He may not have meant to set Mata up but him being good at football set up Mata's goal.
Besides, it's not really about whether you value certain types of assist or not. The vast majority of stats sources consider that an assist, so it is one. If you think that's wrong, then disregard assists as a way of evaluating a player.
So it is indeed 4 and 4. Or was. Now it's 5 and 4.
He did and it was a great piece of play. It's not really an example of him being creative. Where's the 5 come from?
Why so many negative comments?
I think he's been good. He's scored and/or assisted in pretty much every match.
Sort of agree. I do think he's shown potential when it comes to long shots and crossing (that cross to Fellaini vs. Brugge springs to mind, and his corners are pretty good, when we're not playing them short, that is), whereas he hasn't really shown that much when it comes to dribbling. But yes, early days.The Nani comparisons are just incredibly lazy imo. He's nothing like Nani, who was a genuinely fantastic dribbler, with a great long shot and crossing ability. Memphis hasn't shown any of that...yet.
The Nani comparisons are just incredibly lazy imo. He's nothing like Nani, who was a genuinely fantastic dribbler, with a great long shot and crossing ability. Memphis hasn't shown any of that...yet.