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2015-16 Performances


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5.4 Season Average Rating
Appearances
45
Goals
7
Assists
5
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How is it short sighted? I don't think you know what that means.

No one's saying we should sell him or that he should never ever start a league game again. He's being called out for being poor in the league, which he undoubtedly has been.

Not sure why people keep bringing up Ronaldo and Nani. Aside from the fact that both looked a lot more polished in their debut seasons both of them started less than half our games in their first season. Depay is on track to start over 30 games at the current rate despite doing very little when he actually plays. If for nothing else he needs to be dropped to give him some 'rest'.

It's shortsighted because his regular game time seems to be part of a longer term plan to build playing relationships between Van Gaal's ideal front four. Plus, it's further evidence of a general lack of patience on the part of football supporters (not necessarily you, in fairness).

If Depay wasn't contributing then perhaps dropping him would make more sense, but while he continues to directly influence the scoreline then it's understandable that the manager is pleased with him and therefore he gets to stay in the side.
 
He's playing exactly how I expect him to play for now. He's hesistant & indecisive which leads to undercooked passes or giving the ball away cheaply, it's frustrating to watch now, but we paid for potential, people should never forget that. I think he'll take his time to get a grip of things & he'll then kick on from there, right now, he's not the one to "carry" the team, but he'll contribute for sure.
 
I'm a fan. But really disappointed with his 1v1
Yeah, that's what has disappointed me the most, tbh. I see people comparing him to Nani, but he's twice the dribbler Depay is, in my opinion. Memphis does seem to be stronger mentally, and more of a goalscorer though. He's more like Ronaldo than Nani, despite being more similar in stature to the latter.
 
Bit better yesterday. Glad he got his goal. Still would like to see him go at players more, though. I mean, Young was only on for about 10 minutes, and he created an assist by taking on the full back. Having said that, like I've said before, it's becoming more and more apparent that Memphis is more of a winger that wants to get on the end of things and score goals, rather than dribbling with it.
 
He dribbles the ball too close to opposition players. I reckon he needs to get his head up more often and make better use of his body to shield the ball. I've barely seen him make use of his strength on the ball since he joined us. It's weird to see such a hench guy not use his physical assets better. He falls over far too much.
 
He was up and down yesterday and should have buried that chance for a second, but he was good and will only get better.

The negativity towards him on here is incredible, and those suggesting Young is better than him is just as strange. Young is a solid squad player who will put a good shift in 9/10 times, but Memphis is much more productive and his ceiling for developing into a top player is very high. Memphis should be starting on the left whenever possible.
 
No he was not. Ronaldo at 18 was a very infuriating and inconsistent player. He was a one trick pony and although he beat his man many times, he did not have much end product. Not to mention that he didn't have two player glued to him all game and he was not first choice winger for us.

Don't let Ronaldo's current standards confuse you with what he was at 18.
I'm not confused at all thank you. What's Depay if not inconsistent and infuriating?
 
4 goals and 4 assists in 10 games, is that right? That strikes me as a very good start, and that's ignoring the moments of wonderful quality that he shows every match.

Consistency will come as he settles in. For a youngster new to the club and the league, he's well on track.
He's got no assists in 7 games in the league. He's got three assists I can remember. They were against Bruges and Ipswich.
 
The guy is obviously more dangerous and productive than Young, even if he isn't quite as reliable in keeping the ball. I'm not sure why people are trying to contest that. Weren't we all complaining that we were "too safe" on the ball a few weeks ago? This is what taking risks can look like, especially with young players.
 
Seems to be lacking confidence a bit and isn't thinking decisively, as a result.

He should improve. Talent seems very obvious. Just needs it to click for us.
 
I think di Maria got credited for 3 assist that were all deflected shots.
And that's silly too. It's the kind of stretching to justify performances that people used to do for Kagawa and it's an example of why stats can be misleading. I watch him and I don't see a creative player at all. I see a goal scorer albeit one that isn't a great finisher yet. His movement to get opportunities has been great at times and it's what's stood out. What's also stood out is very poor decision making, playing with his head down and seemingly incapable of getting away from a full back. He slows our play down more than Mata does.
 
And that's silly too. It's the kind of stretching to justify performances that people used to do for Kagawa and it's an example of why stats can be misleading. I watch him and I don't see a creative player at all. I see a goal scorer albeit one that isn't a great finisher yet. His movement to get opportunities has been great at times and it's what's stood out. What's also stood out is very poor decision making, playing with his head down and seemingly incapable of getting away from a full back. He slows our play down more than Mata does.

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to defend him. I'm still very much of the opinion that we need someone like Reus or Griezmann who can beat a man with pace and skill which is still very much something that is missing from our roster at this time.

I also feel people on here expected too much from him and the young Ronaldo comparisons really didn't do him any favor in that regard. He is still very raw and maybe like you said much more of a striker than really a creative winger.

After the Carling Cup game I actually wanted Perreira to get a start in the league for us against Sunderland as I felt he was offering more of the aspects we were missing than Memphis does atm and I feel a bit of rotation would do Memphis good as well.
 
I'm not confused at all thank you. What's Depay if not inconsistent and infuriating?
Yes he is inconsistent and that is why I compared him to the Ronaldo of 19-20 when he had bags of potential but his decision making let him down at times. That is why I said I see similar ability in Depay but his inconsistency will improve with time.
 
Excited to see how Memphis and Martial develop. Both players excite me and I think we've got a good future in both of them.
 
Yes he is inconsistent and that is why I compared him to the Ronaldo of 19-20 when he had bags of potential but his decision making let him down at times. That is why I said I see similar ability in Depay but his inconsistency will improve with time.
But Depay isn't that age and Ronaldo was better. If you want to compare them it should be done at the same age. Though comparing them is going to end in disappointment.
 
Not too down on him, although I would not be opposed to Young starting for him for a couple of games.

I admit though I was extremely frustrated he didn't score or even get that ball back to Martial.
 
Yeah, that's what has disappointed me the most, tbh. I see people comparing him to Nani, but he's twice the dribbler Depay is, in my opinion. Memphis does seem to be stronger mentally, and more of a goalscorer though. He's more like Ronaldo than Nani, despite being more similar in stature to the latter.

The Nani comparisons are just incredibly lazy imo. He's nothing like Nani, who was a genuinely fantastic dribbler, with a great long shot and crossing ability. Memphis hasn't shown any of that...yet.
 
It's not on whoscored. Crediting somebody for doing something he never tried to do is silly. He shot and missed.

He produced an extremely good run and shot, beating the keeper, and as a result Mata was able to score. He may not have meant to set Mata up but him being good at football set up Mata's goal.

Besides, it's not really about whether you value certain types of assist or not. The vast majority of stats sources consider that an assist, so it is one. If you think that's wrong, then disregard assists as a way of evaluating a player.

So it is indeed 4 and 4. Or was. Now it's 5 and 4.
 
The Nani comparisons are just incredibly lazy imo. He's nothing like Nani, who was a genuinely fantastic dribbler, with a great long shot and crossing ability. Memphis hasn't shown any of that...yet.
I think it is just comparing inconsistency rather than any specific trait.
 
He produced an extremely good run and shot, beating the keeper, and as a result Mata was able to score. He may not have meant to set Mata up but him being good at football set up Mata's goal.

Besides, it's not really about whether you value certain types of assist or not. The vast majority of stats sources consider that an assist, so it is one. If you think that's wrong, then disregard assists as a way of evaluating a player.

So it is indeed 4 and 4. Or was. Now it's 5 and 4.
He did and it was a great piece of play. It's not really an example of him being creative. Where's the 5 come from?
 
He usually plays too relaxed or with very little intensity. Something Rooney does too nowadays actually.
 
God it really doesn't take people long to turn on players, no such thing as patience in the modern game. He's been solid if not spectacular but you'd be mad not to think he will come good.
 
I really like him, seems to have a great attitude and all the tools to be a top player for us, yes he's a bit inconsistent at times but that's totally understandable, it's easy to forget he has already scored four times for us, and some crackers in there too.

Give me him over our last number 7 that's for sure!
 
Why so many negative comments?

I think he's been good. He's scored and/or assisted in pretty much every match.
 
He will be fine.
We do have short term memories here. Ronaldo had a bedding in period at the start of his career here and people were giving him stick. I'm sure that Memphis has the attitude and desire to get better and achieve his potential. Just imagine what a difference it will make when he steps up a level and links up with martial. I could see it being reminiscent of Ronaldo/Rooney in the 2006/07 season.

Let's just hope januzaj improves in Dortmund and comes back a more complete player.
A front 4 of Memphis, Januzaj, Pereira and Martial is quite exciting if you ask me!
 
He did and it was a great piece of play. It's not really an example of him being creative. Where's the 5 come from?

Because it was 4 goals and 4 assists and then he scored against Sunderland? Or was the 4 and 4 from after that game? I've been working late a few nights in a row at work so I keep replying to everything a day late, possibly I've got confused there.
 
The Nani comparisons are just incredibly lazy imo. He's nothing like Nani, who was a genuinely fantastic dribbler, with a great long shot and crossing ability. Memphis hasn't shown any of that...yet.
Sort of agree. I do think he's shown potential when it comes to long shots and crossing (that cross to Fellaini vs. Brugge springs to mind, and his corners are pretty good, when we're not playing them short, that is), whereas he hasn't really shown that much when it comes to dribbling. But yes, early days.
 
The Nani comparisons are just incredibly lazy imo. He's nothing like Nani, who was a genuinely fantastic dribbler, with a great long shot and crossing ability. Memphis hasn't shown any of that...yet.

Yes he has. He's scored a superb goal from range against Brugges and great feet to beat his man on numerous occasions, most recently when he hit the post in that 45 pass goal. He also hit a great cross for that last minute winner by Fellaini.

He's been very inconsistent and only occasionally played with confidence but all the elements are there. He just needs to put them together.
 
This guy definitely needs to show hunger on a continuous basis. His confidence levels seem to flip flop too much for my liking.
 
First 6 games in a new tougher league, not suprising he has looked so much better playing in the UCL.
Anyway he still produces the odd moment, he'll come good. Sanchez last season has a poor start to the season and ended up being on of the best players in the league. Di Maria last year started off like a house on fire and then didn't see the light of day after xmas.

His talent is there, don't have any issues with Memphis, just needs some time.
 
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