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2015-16 Performances

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5.4 Season Average Rating
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45
Goals
7
Assists
5
Yellow cards
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We want it all and we want it NOW!


I'm finding it harder and harder to enter discussions on the boards, for the same reason I can't watch games with drunk people
 
VorZakone said:
Neymar was a much bigger star than Depay at the age of 21 though. More known internationally.
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What does it matter? He was a star who was unproven outside of the shite brazilian league.
moses said:
United in heavy transition v Barcelona 2013. You really need that pointed out to you?
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He asked a question. I wish to be pedantic and answer it. Now get the pub beards and cheap beer breath out of my face.

So at ease tigermen. I am a fan of Memphis. Just pointing out a technicality.
 
Kevin said:
What does it matter? He was a star who was unproven outside of the shite brazilian league.


He asked a question. I wish to be pedantic and answer it. Now get the pub beards and cheap beer breath out of my face.

So at ease tigermen. I am a fan of Memphis. Just pointing out a technicality.
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It matters because Neymar at that point was further in his development than Memphis, Brazilian league aside. That's why he already was a key starter for Brazil and won the ConFed with them.
 
VorZakone said:
It matters because Neymar at that point was further in his development than Memphis, Brazilian league aside. That's why he already was a key starter for Brazil and won the ConFed with them.
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Plenty of sceptics on here when Neymar first plied his trade in Europe. All that stuff you said sounds more convincing now when he turned out to be a star. Hindsight and all that.

Thing is: when you're talented enough, Barcelona, Bayern and United will give you your starts.

Madrid... maybe not so much.
 
Kevin said:
Plenty of sceptics on here when Neymar first plied his trade in Europe. All that stuff you said sounds more convincing now when he turned out to be a star. Hindsight and all that.

Thing is: when you're talented enough, Barcelona, Bayern and United will give you your starts.

Madrid... maybe not so much.
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Yeah well sceptics will always be there. Sceptics said Rakitic is an average player and Sevilla was his ceiling. Despite the sceptics, he was already quite a household name.
 
Against Brugge he was the best thing since sliced bread and now he's rubbish...give him time, he's still adjusting to the league. Against Brugge he had a lot more time and space to attack into, in the PL you don't get that and he will need to adjust his game, he's knows that and he will improve that aspect of his game. Look where he's come from, how hard he's worked, got himself a life/personal coach, the lad is driven within himself to be a success, give him time....
 
VorZakone said:
Yeah well sceptics will always be there. Sceptics said Rakitic is an average player and Sevilla was his ceiling. Despite the sceptics, he was already quite a household name.
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Yep. But it works both ways. In the end, maybe you always saw a 40 goals a season player in Neymar when he first landed at el Prat, but plenty did not... it was still a gamble considering his age and unproven status outside of the Brazilian league and internatiinal football (plenty of flops bought on the basis of good world cup tournaments, never mind a South American cup tourney). He also seemed to have a bit of a showman status and cliches of tricks over substance et all persisted around him, as is normal for a young player. Barca took a gamble.

That is not to say Memphis is a failure for mot adapting as quickly as Neymar, the circumstances are different and different footballers grow at different speed.
 
Baxter said:
It's the pace of the game that's the issue for him just now I think. It looks like he's still expecting a few more seconds on the ball that what he will actually get. He just needs to adapt and at 21 he's got plenty of time. I think a lot more people would be a bit more forgiving if he and Martial weren't the only attacking buys. There is a lot of pressure on him to deliver straight away and it doesn't allow him the chance to adapt more slowly. I wouldn't say Van Gaal has hung him out to dry but an experienced, top signing could've done a big job in lifting some of the expectation off him. If Martial throws in a couple of bad performances some will be saying exactly the same about him.
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This - at the end of the summer I've been happy with our transfers apart from not having a proper experienced backup/competition to Rooney (CB too but that has become less of an issue). It would have meant less pressure on the youngsters to fill that gap..but given the current situation hopefully they can do that.
 
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We always knew he would be hit and miss to begin with, anybody thinking he would be the reincarnation of Ronaldo from the first game is mental.

It's good to have the option though, Young came on and did great, he links up better with Shaw and the other players around I find, where as Memphis is always looking maybe 1 step ahead too quickly. He will only learn by playing though.
 
I personally thought to much pressure was put on him from the start. At his age coming from the Dutch league to be your big white hope, it was always going to be tough for him to meet expectations initially.
 
Not really convinced by him so far. I understand players need time to adjust to the new league, but his decision making is worrying and reminds me of Nani. Hopefully he'll get a couple of good performances to help with his confidence.
 
KGBhoy said:
Not really convinced by him so far. I understand players need time to adjust to the new league, but his decision making is worrying and reminds me of Nani. Hopefully he'll get a couple of good performances to help with his confidence.
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That's not understanding he'll need time though.
 
First, Neymar didn't hit the ground running from day one too. At that time a lot of people said how bigger succes is Bale and all that.

Second, give a guy little time. He played 7 games in 2 different positions and 2 of them were really good performances. He showed glimpses of his quality in every match till Liverpool game.

Third, saying all that he really must work on his close control of the ball.
 
Reminds me of Nani when he first arrived, he's going to be hit and miss for a while. Could do with a few games on the bench, start Young and let Memphis come on as a sub.
 
I definitely think he needs a break. Give Young a few games and ease Depay in from the bench, as he really should have been from the beginning. The consistency will come, but there's no point in forcing it.
 
BigDunc9 said:
I personally thought to much pressure was put on him from the start. At his age coming from the Dutch league to be your big white hope, it was always going to be tough for him to meet expectations initially.
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Aye, there's definitely been a lot of pressure on him, since people are largely expecting him to be our most productive player besides the strikers this season. He's got plenty of ability, but areas he needs to work on to improve massively.
 
he was like a deer caught in headlights against Liverpool.

I think the occasion got to him. He did have time on the ball on a couple of occasions with chances to run, he just didn't seem to hold it together upstairs and lost concentration.
 
Why compare him to Neymar?. Neymar was always going to become one of the biggest players in the world, you could see that very clearly from his ability with the ball. The technique and skill were all there to see from the very beginning. Sort of like when we all first saw Ronaldo. Memphis is a tremendous talent but he simply isnt anywhere near the level that Neymar is or was when he first appeared. The comparisons with Neymar are unfair.
 
It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that he's having a run of average games. He's 21, new to the league and there's enormous pressure on him to be our star attacking player. I have no doubts that he'll improve and deliver Brugge performances on a more regular basis.

What concerns me about his game at present though is his first touch. He always seems to take the ball behind him with his first touch and it becomes easy for the defender to close out the space especially when double marked. He received the ball in dangerous situation where he could have been 1v1 square with Clyne but his touch allowed Clyne to close out the space he could have had with a better touch. Its something I'd expect our coaching staff to improve on considerably in the next few seasons.
 
Sam said:
Anyone else think he's looking a bit too bulky? Ironically the complete opposite of the usual 'needs to bulk up' comments.

He doesn't look as nimble as I remember him looking for PSV. A bit like when Ronaldo bulked up and lost his dribbling/skills. Been hitting the gym a bit too hard me thinks.
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There have been other cases of this Agbonglahor or what his name is did this he was scary quick and sharp.. But started his body building regime and lost a step or two. Our Memphis is a bit like that he just looks to bulky, he needs to loose a bit of muscle. Get a bit of agility and sharpness back. His muscles are making him stiff and sturdy not quick and agile..

Beyond that I haven't seen his brilliance, just a powerfull young player with potential.
 
If he does not improve in next 3 games,just terminate contract and get rid,otherwise if we wait till winter transfer window,he could hurt us even more by wasting that spot,i rather not play with 10 man every game. hope i am doing this right
 
Stack said:
Why compare him to Neymar?. Neymar was always going to become one of the biggest players in the world, you could see that very clearly from his ability with the ball. The technique and skill were all there to see from the very beginning. Sort of like when we all first saw Ronaldo. Memphis is a tremendous talent but he simply isnt anywhere near the level that Neymar is or was when he first appeared. The comparisons with Neymar are unfair.
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Is that right? A lot of people thought he was going to turn out to be another Robinho, who had similar massive hype coming out of Brazil, earned a big move to Real, and turned out to be a massive disappointment.
 
DarkXaero said:
Is that right? A lot of people thought he was going to turn out to be another Robinho, who had similar massive hype coming out of Brazil, earned a big move to Real, and turned out to be a massive disappointment.
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Well I for one never had any doubt. Most of the people who couldnt see it were blinded by the fact they didnt like how showy he was because of his haircuts and antics. It was blindingly obvious just looking at his abilities that he was going to be huge. Not sure how anyone couldnt see it.
 
He's getting incredible amount of stick :eek: This season's Daley Blind of the last two months of previous season.
 
I think Depay might actually benefit from being the one who comes off to the bench and into the game, rather then having to be on at the start. Seems when you come off the bench - especially for us - you can play with a bit more freedom/intent, because generally everything that's come before it has been largely insipid.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I think Depay might actually benefit from being the one who comes off to the bench and into the game, rather then having to be on at the start. Seems when you come off the bench - especially for us - you can play with a bit more freedom/intent, because generally everything that's come before it has been largely insipid.
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I think that's fair. He's a young lad in a new league. Maybe this takes him out of the firing line and takes a bit of pressure off.
 
Sarni said:
He's getting incredible amount of stick :eek: This season's Daley Blind of the last two months of previous season.
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Martial will get the same treatment after a couple bad performances. He wasn't even that bad in the first half against Liverpool. Our left side was certainly our most threatening in that half. Our right was ineffective. His final delivery was poor and his decision making could have been better but this will improve. I agree he could be used as an impact sub in the bigger games where his pace and energy could cause massive problems later on in the game but we all need to give the lad time to find his feet and grow. Let's not give him the Nani/Young treatment straight away.
 
Where do those "ffs give him time" post come from? Obviously nobody wants to get rid of him or something, people are just realizing that he isn't all that and he has to improve a lot of aspects of his game to be a regular starter for us. He's got the talent, no doubt about that, but he hasn't shown anything in the EPL so far, what isn't a surprise (for me at least).
People who predicted 20 goals+assists from him only have themselves to blame. I don't have a problem with his poor performances, I am only worried how van Gaal managed him. IMO he's playing way too much and he should not be picked ahead of Young.
 
I agree coming on rather than starting will do him a world of good. Last 30 mins when the game is stretched, he has more space to work with.
 
Lowkey said:
Martial will get the same treatment after a couple bad performances. He wasn't even that bad in the first half against Liverpool. Our left side was certainly our most threatening in that half. Our right was ineffective. His final delivery was poor and his decision making could have been better but this will improve. I agree he could be used as an impact sub in the bigger games where his pace and energy could cause massive problems later on in the game but we all need to give the lad time to find his feet and grow. Let's not give him the Nani/Young treatment straight away.
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Indeedd. I can't believe how negative people have become after just 5 games of season, especially as he has already shown glimpses of genuine talent. Against Newcastle he was very good in the first half except for final delivery and was probably slightly unlucky not to get a goal. I'd definitely not say he's been terrible for us so far but the amount of stick he's getting is unbelievable.
 
Borys said:
Where do those "ffs give him time" post come from? Obviously nobody wants to get rid of him or something, people are just realizing that he isn't all that and he has to improve a lot of aspects of his game to be a regular starter for us. He's got the talent, no doubt about that, but he hasn't shown anything in the EPL so far, what isn't a surprise (for me at least).
People who predicted 20 goals+assists from him only have themselves to blame. I don't have a problem with his poor performances, I am only worried how van Gaal managed him. IMO he's playing way too much and he should not be picked ahead of Young.
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He will deliver 20 goals + assists this season. I can put any money on that and I am 100% sure that barring long-term injury I will be correct.
 
Depay is adjusting to a new league. You can see how shattered he looks. Once it clicks then he'll be our player of the season.
 
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