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Some people are far too knee-jerk. Saying guff like he has no pace, can't dribble or has no technique... His displays in Holland and in Europe for us show what he can do, and he will prove it.

He's young and the sensible amongst us knew that he would take a season to adapt, and his performances thus far have offered a glimpse of his potential. For comparison, take a look at the initial performances of Hazard at Chelsea, who came in at a similar age. It took him the best part of 6 months before he started playing towards his optimum level, and the least Depay deserves is a similar amount of slack cut for himself.

Classic redcafe. Players aren't allowed to play badly without people inferring that this means they have permanent flaws in their technique.
 
He has the makings of a very good player. He is young. Give it time.

Young n learnin and all that.
 
My biggest frustration is what this says for our transfer policy this summer. I can accept depay will take 2-3 years to get upto speed, he will hopefully become a good player. Same with martial. But why the hell didn't we buy any attacking players who can help us NOW?
 
My biggest frustration is what this says for our transfer policy this summer. I can accept depay will take 2-3 years to get upto speed, he will hopefully become a good player. Same with martial. But why the hell didn't we buy any attacking players who can help us NOW?
We need to look at a winger in the January market if it's possible. He isn't ready yet. However he could have picked up form by January. We are still in a position that our best out and out winger is Ashley Young.
 
My biggest frustration is what this says for our transfer policy this summer. I can accept depay will take 2-3 years to get upto speed, he will hopefully become a good player. Same with martial. But why the hell didn't we buy any attacking players who can help us NOW?

Sure lets do a City/Chelsea and buy our first XI and not build our team around young players.
 
We need to look at a winger in the January market if it's possible. He isn't ready yet. However he could have picked up form by January. We are still in a position that our best out and out winger is Ashley Young.

That is scarily true, it's the biggest problem in the team. Mata is also struggling on the right side. We need to get back to Valencia and Young on the wings and replace them with better players when the opportunity arises. Depay, Adnan are quite simply not better at this stage but have the potential to be. Mata is a square peg at right wing and we get no or very little attacking from that side because of this. It is a shame as he's got so much quality but it's stifled in that position and hampers the team.
 
He has the makings of a very good player. He is young. Give it time.

Young n learnin and all that.

Precisely, how anyone can start judging him now is beyond me. It's the same with Martial...sure great goal, but young players are not consistent, that comes much later, so it's a case of enjoying the good games they have and being forgiving when they have off days.
 
The best thing for him right now is come of the bench against tiring defenders and get his confidence back up. Once he gets a couple of goals in the league he'll probably get a lot better in other areas of his game.

That said, I've never been overly convince he's all that. He'll do very well to get close to Nani's level from what I've seen of him.
 
He's thinking too much and is afraid of making mistakes, I think, he needs to just get on with it. And for the love of God, stop going down at the slightest contact.
 
No he wasn't.

I think we expected frustrating performances, him trying too much, overcomplicating things, being inconsistent but flashes and glimpses of his ability.

Right now we're not even getting that, we're getting a player who's not trying anything, not beating his man, not showing why he was bought here. He looks like a deer in headlights.

He needs an arm around his shoulder and to be taken out of the firing line for a couple of games imo.
That's extreme and simply not true. I don't know anyone who expected anything different from the performances he has put in for us so far. He's already shown us his skill through his penetrative runs and ability to beat a man, which he's had no problem of accomplishing. His main problem is his decision making. The main reason Young looked good is because he knows what he's doing and makes quick decisions. Memphis has a bad habit of remaining stationary on the ball and taking far too long before he makes a decision. Definitely Nani-esque in that regard. Those quick decisions that Young makes all come with experience.
 
He's young and so far only done it in the Eredivisie - which is not a very high standard when you compare to the PL. He needs time - I thought he shouldn't have been starting as often as he has in his first year. Stick him on the bench and bring him on as a sub after 70 or so and let him try and make an impact in a short time. He gives me the impression that he believes he's made it already thanks to his one great season in Holland.
 
We're paying a bit for relying so heavily on a kid from the Dutch league. I expected him to struggle albiet not this much.

As for his abilities, I'm surprised he's so lacking in mobility. Doesn't seem to have that much pace on the ball nor a really quick burst. All I'm seeing is muscle and power, and trickery. Hopefully he improves this.
Agree with this - I think one of the big challenges for him is to up his game to PL levels of speed and nimbleness needed on a flank. So far he looks out of his depth.
 
I didn't think he was that bad yesterday.

Part of his problem was not getting close enough to goal with his runs or possession. And for that, Clyne deserves credit. A couple of times Memphis beat him initially but Clyne got back to meet him again.

Off the ball he wasn't looking to play on the shoulder quite as freely as we've seen before and I can only assume that was a deliberate instruction for fear of Clyne pushing forward and doubling up on Shaw. Something we only really saw in the 2nd half when Memphis was withdrawn.

That said, he still has to work on that final ball at times. Sometimes he checks inside and walks straight into the DM covering so he needs to be cuter with that move. Or more aware of when to try it perhaps.

I like him and want him to continue playing. Think his fizzed crosses to Fellaini could well be developed upon. Especially if Fellaini can get to them before defenders can react well enough to marshall him. However unless that does develop then Young's high crossing + Fellaini is almost as important a combination for our team as Juan and Ander.
 
Everyone knew he was going to start off inconsistently, why the sudden hatred? He's show flashes of sheer brilliance, that's enough for me so far, extremely confident he is going to be a star here.
 
Classic redcafe. Players aren't allowed to play badly without people inferring that this means they have permanent flaws in their technique.
I'd actually hate to have seen these same people on here when Ronaldo was here during his early days... It actually boggles the mind how myopic they are.
 
That's extreme and simply not true. I don't know anyone who expected anything different from the performances he has put in for us so far. He's already shown us his skill through his penetrative runs and ability to beat a man, which he's had no problem of accomplishing. His main problem is his decision making. The main reason Young looked good is because he knows what he's doing and makes quick decisions. Memphis has a bad habit of remaining stationary on the ball and taking far too long before he makes a decision. Definitely Nani-esque in that regard. Those quick decisions that Young makes all come with experience.

Against Brugge, yeah.

All I'm asking is he tries it in the League, he might have a whole game where nothing comes off, thats fine. What I never want to see from him again is just the complete lack of anything that he showed yesterday.

He's shown nothing in the League so far, it's not been good enough.
 
Against Brugge, yeah.

All I'm asking is he tries it in the League, he might have a whole game where nothing comes off, thats fine. What I never want to see from him again is just the complete lack of anything that he showed yesterday.

He's shown nothing in the League so far, it's not been good enough.

Thats a bit harsh imo. Not saying he has been brilliant, but opposing teams have been very wary of him, and locked down their right flank very tightly. He has shown some intelligent movement, good technique and we all know his physique is excellent.

Besides, the team as a whole has not been good going forward this year. Any attacker, never mind a youngster would struggle to create something when the opposing team is in full balance and your only target is a sluggish Rooney.

Right now Young should play ahead of him, but i don't really know what people here expect of him. He has time on his side, and im sure he will come good
 
Quality young player who's game will go up and down for a couple of years yet. It's not like we haven't seen it before with young players. Ive watched him for the Dutch team and he's got lots of qualities. We will see better performances initially in CL than PL where the tempo will suit him better.
 
Just ask yourself, would any of Real/Barca/Bayern play a 21 year old player already week in week out after transferring from the Eredivisie? It's very harsh, the kid needs time to naturally improve in the PL, he is a good talent but not that good that he can excel immediately.
 
Give him chance, he's played a handful of games in his first season in a new league and is only 21. He'll be fine, just don't write him off yet. Still one of Europe's most exciting young talents.
 
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I didn't think he was that bad yesterday.

Part of his problem was not getting close enough to goal with his runs or possession. And for that, Clyne deserves credit. A couple of times Memphis beat him initially but Clyne got back to meet him again.

Off the ball he wasn't looking to play on the shoulder quite as freely as we've seen before and I can only assume that was a deliberate instruction for fear of Clyne pushing forward and doubling up on Shaw. Something we only really saw in the 2nd half when Memphis was withdrawn.

That said, he still has to work on that final ball at times. Sometimes he checks inside and walks straight into the DM covering so he needs to be cuter with that move. Or more aware of when to try it perhaps.

I like him and want him to continue playing. Think his fizzed crosses to Fellaini could well be developed upon. Especially if Fellaini can get to them before defenders can react well enough to marshall him. However unless that does develop then Young's high crossing + Fellaini is almost as important a combination for our team as Juan and Ander.

Pretty much this. Also he did track back yesterday. Once or twice he lost the ball and belted up the line to win it back as well. Just needs to get some confidence against teams in the premier league and he'll be fine.
 
I thought it would take half a season before Memphis was able to show his quality with us and I think he's done better than I expected so far. Yesterday was probably his poorest game for us so far. To say he's not good enough on the basis of one half is as much an overreaction as those who were hyping him post-Brugge. Lots of ups and downs to come, we have to be patient.
 
Lad really needs to be picked against PSV, level he's very used to, knows the team inside out & will give him a massive confidence boost.
 
He needs a confidence booster. Looks like he is playing within himself. The pressure of having to be our creative spark seems to be getting to him.
 
It's the pace of the game that's the issue for him just now I think. It looks like he's still expecting a few more seconds on the ball that what he will actually get. He just needs to adapt and at 21 he's got plenty of time. I think a lot more people would be a bit more forgiving if he and Martial weren't the only attacking buys. There is a lot of pressure on him to deliver straight away and it doesn't allow him the chance to adapt more slowly. I wouldn't say Van Gaal has hung him out to dry but an experienced, top signing could've done a big job in lifting some of the expectation off him. If Martial throws in a couple of bad performances some will be saying exactly the same about him.
 
Against Brugge, yeah.

All I'm asking is he tries it in the League, he might have a whole game where nothing comes off, thats fine. What I never want to see from him again is just the complete lack of anything that he showed yesterday.

He's shown nothing in the League so far, it's not been good enough.
Also against Aston Villa and Newcastle where he made penetrative runs (two quality chances missed in each match) and beat his man easily (Newcastle), so this thing about him not beating his man or showing glimpses of his quality is far from the truth and is somewhat reactionary. I agree that it's definitely not been good enough, but that is to be expected from a young player who hasn't even reached 10 PL games for us and is adjusting to a completely different league.
 
He'll come good, calm down. You can just tell he's got it. Just needs time. Too talented not to succeed.
 
He will be fine. He has shown he has the ability, but so far he hasn't shown the mentality. He's come in expecting the be the spark and i think has been a bit shell shocked by how tough the league is. Once he settles down he will start taking players on and making things happen.

It could be much, much worse. Look at Firmino.
 
He has all the tools but he makes the wrong choice every time. I don't even think it's a matter of consistency. I just don't think he knows what to do at certain times. It'll come, though.
 
Anyone else think he's looking a bit too bulky? Ironically the complete opposite of the usual 'needs to bulk up' comments.

He doesn't look as nimble as I remember him looking for PSV. A bit like when Ronaldo bulked up and lost his dribbling/skills. Been hitting the gym a bit too hard me thinks.
 
Memphis is putting too much pressure on himself and it's messing with his performances. Think he needs to be on the bench for a bit and come on when we've got the game won and there's not so much pressure or expectation. It will free him up mentally. Otherwise, I'm not worried about him, he will be fine. Just needs some careful handling so he doesn't lose his confidence. We also have quite a lot of games coming up which he can use to get his mojo back, especially those games in Europe.
 
Just ask yourself, would any of Real/Barca/Bayern play a 21 year old player already week in week out after transferring from the Eredivisie? It's very harsh, the kid needs time to naturally improve in the PL, he is a good talent but not that good that he can excel immediately.
Neymar. From a worse league. 21.
 
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