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Cavuto: Is Trump giving the media very real ammunition



Fox seem to be waking up
 
Tarrou said:
Fox turning on him is surprising, and telling
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Cavuto has always been a moderate voice at Fox. The real evidence they are turning on him are when the likes of Hannity, Judge Jeanine, Varney, and Dobbs turn on him.
 
Sessions is the most dangerous man in America



Trump shills are going all out to discredit the Mueller investigation
 
Carolina Red said:
That’s actually a very common thing to say in the South... by white and black people.
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Yeah true. Its more of an archaic term that was more common in the 70s and before. It was obviously not going to go down well in the Fox debate.
 
Raoul said:
Yeah true. Its more of an archaic term that was more common in the 70s and before. It was obviously not going to go down well in the Fox debate.
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Yeah that guy didn’t do himself any favors.

It’s something that people say here though and don’t even think about it.

We use a lot of euphemisms in place of swearing when in certain company...

“That cotton pickin back yard is hard as heck to cut, dang it!”
 
Well 'nigger' was a very common term in the south until people realised it wasn't acceptable. I'd be horrified if I'd let that slip out without meaning to insult, and apologise. I'm sure that bloke doesn't care.
 
Grinner said:
Well 'nigger' was a very common term in the south until people realised it wasn't acceptable. I'd be horrified if I'd let that slip out without meaning to insult, and apologise. I'm sure that bloke doesn't care.
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Cotton pickin refers to something being difficult or irritating, not to a person.

I literally said the sentence I put in quotes a few days ago to my wife. I’m not calling the back yard a slave.
 
The expression 'out of your cotton-picking mind' is no longer deemed an acceptable description of a black person in the USA. In April 2018 a white commentator (Brian Davis) said in a broadcast commentary of a basketball game that a black player (Russell Westbrook) was 'out of his cotton-picking mind'. The perceived racist connotations caused an uproar of protest. Davis, while claiming that the remark was unintentional, apologised, describing the comment as insensitive and a lapse of judgement. Davis was suspended from his position with the broadcaster.
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Carolina Red said:
Cotton pickin refers to something being difficult or irritating, not to a person.

I literally said the sentence I put in quotes a few days ago to my wife. I’m not calling the back yard a slave.
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Bossie is from Boston so I'm not entirely convinced he didn't know it would rub the other guy the wrong way. If it was Lindsey Graham or Jack Kingston then I would understand it being used in a southern context.
 
Raoul said:
Bossie is from Boston so I'm not entirely convinced he didn't know it would rub the other guy the wrong way. If it was Lindsey Graham or Jack Kingston then I would understand it being used in a southern context.
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I could tell the guy wasn’t southern.

I was just giving some context to it, considering I’m from a place where it is part of the common language.
 
In these times it's just not something that is advisable to say in conversation, yet alone on TV when arguing with a POC. I'm not sure a Bostonian has any claim to the phrase either.
 
Raoul said:
2 weeks for racism

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I know words are important, but surely the issue is intent. Did he intend to insult? If you believe its the words over intent, and that intent does not come into it, bit like Suarez on Evra, what do we do with all these rappers and other singers that use very offensive words. They would argue there is no intent. Do we hold them to account? This is why that twitter message with the WOKE was so funny, because to a certain extent it show people looking for something to be outraged at rather than getting on with life. In this case, I am not supporting Bossie, but it does beg the question where is the bar in all this.
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
I know words are important, but surely the issue is intent. Did he intend to insult? If you believe its the words over intent, and that intent does not come into it, bit like Suarez on Evra, what do we do with all these rappers and other singers that use very offensive words. They would argue there is no intent. Do we hold them to account? This is why that twitter message with the WOKE was so funny, because to a certain extent it show people looking for something to be outraged at rather than getting on with life. In this case, I am not supporting Bossie, but it does beg the question where is the bar in all this.
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Who knows. Its not a term used on TV so he should've thought about the context before saying it.
 
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