McKenna or Tuchel?

VP89 said:
Am I the only one who thinks Mckenna or Poch would be equally exciting for different reasons?
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I think they’re all exciting for their own reasons. Tuchel for his intensity, Poch for his man management, McKenna for his potential etc. I’d say the bar is pretty low at the moment regarding things that cause excitement for United fans next season though.
 
Bayern going all in for Kompany, Alonso's success and Arteta's progress really boost McKenna's chances.
 
McKenna is the obvious long term choice but I don’t think we have the structure or culture in place yet and we’d need a more experienced hand in navigating these uncertain times before someone for the long term gets the role. Tuchel seems the perfect short-term bridge in between this transition
 
VP89 said:
Don't get me wrong I prefer Mckenna for the unknown ceiling, but I think there's a good potential in both.

I was listening to a podcast earlier with a Chelsea journalist (I forgot the name) but he said a very senior decorated player at Chelsea called Poch "the best man manager I've ever had" which was an insane level of praise given the managers he's worked under. Maybe it was Sterling or Silva, but that's exciting too.
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Its also mentioned in their article but it also has players describing his training methods as primitive , overworking them in training ,rushing players back from injuries causing relapse , looking to bring in players he had worked with earlier which was refused and those players moving outside of top 5 European league and constantly at odds with Management

Doesn't sound too exciting but I rather not take things at face value to be honest .
 
Tuchel all day. With McKenna, it will be another "give him time, let him build a dynasty" type appointment. We've had enough of those.

Get Tuchel in for 2/3 years and potentially win a few trophies with everyone knowing it won't be some fairytale long-term appointment. Experience and a steady hand also needed to start the INEOS overhaul.
 
King7Eric said:
You are trying to bring logic into football which doesn't exist.

If you are looking at it empirically there is no reason for anyone to support a bunch of men in shorts kicking a ball of air. We do it for emotional reasons, not logical ones.

Also, if you are talking about people working in corporate jobs moving, I don't think any company has a fanbase like football clubs do, so who exactly would be upset? Plus if you do join competition, many times you are basically burning your bridges with your current employers. This is the same happening here, just at a larger scale with more people involved.
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Glad to see empathy is rife
 
Its not McKenna or Tuchel for me, McKenna or Poch. Not sure you can judge a manager by how they perform at Chelsea, in a similar way you can't really judge a manager by how they perform with us. Poch still has some credit with me, I was one of the ones who wanted him rather than ETH.

I wouldn't be disappointed with either but equally neither jumps out, goes to show there really is a dearth of top level coaches out there. Arsenal rolled the dice with Arteta and its paying off, maybe we should do the same with McKenna. I mean, it can't get any worse. Can it?
 
Get tuchel for two years, let McKenna work under him, and then appoint McKenna if things have gone swimmingly? Unlikely, but just a thought. I know tuchel would bring his own people
 
Partridge said:
Get tuchel for two years, let McKenna work under him, and then appoint McKenna if things have gone swimmingly? Unlikely, but just a thought. I know tuchel would bring his own people
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McKenna is a head coach now, he would come for the number 1 job, he absolutely won't come as number 2. Its a 4 year step back in his career.
 
Partridge said:
Get tuchel for two years, let McKenna work under him, and then appoint McKenna if things have gone swimmingly? Unlikely, but just a thought. I know tuchel would bring his own people
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2 quick things.

1. McKenna would not take an assistant role on a million years.
2. You want to hire a manager for 2 years then replace them if things go "swimmingly"?
 
Partridge said:
Get tuchel for two years, let McKenna work under him, and then appoint McKenna if things have gone swimmingly? Unlikely, but just a thought. I know tuchel would bring his own people
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Maybe we can get Ancelotti as a set piece coach while we're at it.

Less far fetched, but not realistic, I'd take Carrick as assistant to McKenna.
 
Ocelot said:
Tuchel all day. With McKenna, it will be another "give him time, let him build a dynasty" type appointment. We've had enough of those.

Get Tuchel in for 2/3 years and potentially win a few trophies with everyone knowing it won't be some fairytale long-term appointment. Experience and a steady hand also needed to start the INEOS overhaul.
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I agree. We’ve all had enough of these long term strategies. The fans of this Club deserve better. We’ve had 12+years of building.
 
Ocelot said:
Tuchel all day. With McKenna, it will be another "give him time, let him build a dynasty" type appointment. We've had enough of those.

Get Tuchel in for 2/3 years and potentially win a few trophies with everyone knowing it won't be some fairytale long-term appointment. Experience and a steady hand also needed to start the INEOS overhaul.
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This squad will not win a trophy with a coach just roasting them. They don't have the character, they will get worse, not better. Like it or not we need to tear the whole thing down root to branch and start again.
 
Bastian said:
Maybe we can get Ancelotti as a set piece coach while we're at it.

Less far fetched, but not realistic, I'd take Carrick as assistant to McKenna.
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We should have got ancelotti a while ago as interim. What do you say oh master of tactics and managers? You opinion really does mean alot to me. I really do mean that.
 
Glorio said:
Bayern going all in for Kompany, Alonso's success and Arteta's progress really boost McKenna's chances.
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Does it? Those guys are all working from a foundation of respect earned during their playing career. While they had not endured the spotlight of a mega club as managers yet, they are familiar with the scrutiny and expectations from their days on the pitch.

Being an assistant at United doesn’t count, really.

Watching Potter, who at least had PL experience as head man, get swallowed by the spotlight and pressure, has me very reticent to sign guys like Maresca or McKenna.
 
Stop speculating and just accept what happens. It's not in any of your control.
 
Would like to see McKenna continue is work at Ipswich next season. And maybe come here in a few more years.

Pochettino is the best option for us now.

Tuchel would probably not do well with the current issues at our club or the current ownership structure. Several people have described him as a «difficult person» and a perfectionist. Kinda like the Ronaldo of managers. Not what we need now.
 
Avero said:
Would like to see McKenna continue is work at Ipswich next season. And maybe come here in a few more years.

Pochettino is the best option for us now.

Tuchel would probably not do well with the current issues at our club or the current ownership structure. Several people have described him as a «difficult person» and a perfectionist. Kinda like the Ronaldo of managers. Not what we need now.
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Seems likely that he'll leave this season, here or elsewhere, so that option is probably out the window.

Also Tuchel has voiced a desire to work within the type of structure we are setting up now, so it might not be as bad as it could seem. The friction at Chelsea happened when he was asked to operate as a DoF as well as a coach. He was happy with structure before Clearlake got involved.
 
With us now being back in Europa League I think that favours Tuchel more. I would have liked McKenna, despite his lack of PL experience, but Europa just adds another layer of complexity/risk. Just feel that is too big a step.now.
 
George The Best said:
With us now being back in Europa League I think that favours Tuchel more. I would have liked McKenna, despite his lack of PL experience, but Europa just adds another layer of complexity/risk. Just feel that is too big a step.now.
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Agreed.
 
I just don’t see it with Tuchel at all. He went downhill after his wife left him. Pochettino please.
 
DRJosh said:
McKenna is the obvious long term choice but I don’t think we have the structure or culture in place yet and we’d need a more experienced hand in navigating these uncertain times before someone for the long term gets the role. Tuchel seems the perfect short-term bridge in between this transition
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We might as well pack up this club if we appoint a novice manager to a club of our stature and size.

A manager who has never even managed a single game in a top 5 league.

Tuchel would be interesting, but how much better would he be in the long term than ETH? He's only going to last for 2-3 years max.

I think ETH could win major trophies in that period of time too.
 
Can't wait for the announcement. Gosh darn this season could not have dragged on longer.
 
The only sensible Candidate would be McKenna or stick with ETH

Would not touch Tuchel or Poch
 
For me its between ETH and Mckenna. Both know the mess United are in, they both know who the backstabbers are and what needs to be changed. ETH is more experienced and a better disciplinarian but he is also a bit more stubborn in terms of tactics. Mckenna understands English football/culture more and he is a better communicator. In my opinion it must be between the two.
 
ETH. Grass isnt greener on the other side. How many post Fergie managers will it take until that penny drops.
 
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