But there will be some quality players out there who might fancy being part of a United revival. There have to be. As low as we all feel about everything right now, United are still a huge club that many players would aspire to play for.
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But there will be some quality players out there who might fancy being part of a United revival. There have to be. As low as we all feel about everything right now, United are still a huge club that many players would aspire to play for.
There will be, but I think we'll be looking mostly at players who are hoping to break through into stardom, rather than those who have already achieved it. To be honest, that might not be the worst thing, they will at least be hungry (rather than resting on their laurels like Sanchez, Di Maria, Schweinsteiger etc).
We should be looking at Brandt, Tah, Andersen, Pepe, Atal, Piatek, Havertz etc, rather than superstars who have already got Barca/Bayern/Real/City knocking their door down.
While I would love de Ligt here, spending 150mil on one defender will drain us, especially when we still have to address other areas like the midfield and attack. I would rather we go for Benfica's Ferro who can't be more than 30-40 mil alongside Alderweireld (25mil). That's about 65mil for our central defence and that's good enough for me. Maybe I'm just a penny pinching bastard but I really don't want us splashing huge millions on a player although that's what the market is all about today. The only player I would advocate spending up to 80mil on would be João Felix and that's because we need a composed lethal finisher so badly in the team.
Yep! Milan are a decent reference point because they were relegated twice in the early '80s, flirted with bankruptcy, and then finished with an average position of 6th in the Serie A in the following seasons under Liedholm — yet were able to sign Van Basten from Ajax by acting swiftly (he was already a Ballon D'Or short list regular and European Golden Boot winner by that point so much more accomplished than De Ligt), and the rest is now history with the subsequent addition of Gullit and Rijkaard in 1988 for vast amounts of money after PSV and Phillips conceded to Milan's negotiations/offer for the former.
The landscape of football has obviously changed a great deal since then, but if De Ligt is convinced by our project (like Van Basten was by Sacchi, Galliani and Berlucconi's when they didn't have a lot of credibility at the elite level) and the money adds up, we might have a chance. United shouldn't just let the likes of him, Mbappé and De Jong join other clubs without putting up a fight — these are generation-defining talents, and have the potential to make a significant impact on their teams for a decade or more. Especially considering De Ligt doesn't seem to be as enamored by Barcelona as De Jong.
No more Raiola please. DeLigt is awesome but he's not the only good defender out there. A year or two ago there was a frenzy on here for John Stones and Otamendi yet neither of them can get into the current city team. There's plenty of young defenders out there who will be as good as DeLift for a fraction of the money - we just have to try to find them.
Have there been any reports linking him to us? I've seen De Light to Barca rumours but hardly anything on Utd. Dont think we are in for him.
Only by the deluded on the Caf
Why the feck would he want to come here anyway? We don’t have a good relationship with Ajax despite VDS being there
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You’d think the football world revolves around 3/4 clubs on here
The thing with Milan is they had an owner who really knew his football. He also wasn't afraid to spend to make the team successful in a bid to improve his image with Italians which came in useful when he ran for office. I can't trust Avram Glazer to fix his fecking ponytail let alone fix Man Utd.
nopethat's literally just Catalan press working overtime for keep Barca to keep potential competitors away.
De Ligt isn't even a fan of Barca nor Spanish football. He's said before that he doesn't even watch La Liga (when De Jong said he preferred La Liga over the Prem), and that English football has the best football culture/'atmosphere' in his eyes.
Also this interview from a couple years ago:
And the Sports chief of De Telegraaf saying the other day that apparently he/his entourage is surprised no English club has come knocking
Nope, not getting sucked in.
We are so unbelievably shit right now, I honestly can't think of any reason other than badge as to why he'd pick us over hordes of elite clubs who are interested in his signature. I just hope we are better positioned when next batch of Ajax gems prop up.
True, the ambitions of Silvio at the time and the Glazer boys are worlds apart, and Ed is no Galliani, but I want to believe, against all hope (or logic because it paints a grim picture)!
Forget it, he's not coming here. Stop kidding yourselves.
Raiola is only working as a broker / negotiator for an upcoming transfer in the place of his actual agent, who has no experience with that sort of things. Unlike Pogba, Kluivert, etc., Raiola doesn't and won't have the sort of head-turning influence because he's not there as an advisor, only as someone who negotiates the (this one? maybe future too, I don't know) deal and gets a cut in return
I'm pretty sure we'll throw a £100m Ajax's way if we get a inkling he wants to join us through his agent Bazza and broker Raiola. He fits the profile of player we want and need to rebuild the team and we'll be in the mix. But it depends on the will of the player and the likes of LVG have advised him to choose other clubs over us through the media which probably doesn't help our cause. Daley Blind is also someone that could have a key role in him join us or not..nope
De Ligt isn't even a fan of Barca nor Spanish football. He's said before that he doesn't even watch La Liga (when De Jong said he preferred La Liga over the Prem), and that English football has the best football culture/'atmosphere' in his eyes.
Also this interview from a couple years ago:
And the Sports chief of De Telegraaf saying the other day that apparently he/his entourage is surprised no English club has come knocking
don't forget the voucher for 25% off at Nandos
Real G’s move in silence.
Besides, don’t know why everyone is so desperate for a link, when it will just invoke 3 pages of the link being trashed of credibility, declarations that he will never come here and Woodward being called an idiot who will ‘probably spend all summer offering £100m for De Ligt only for him to sign for Barcelona then end up bidding £120m for Maguire on deadline day’.
Sanchez and Lukaku both signed when there was months of speculation they were joining City and Chelsea respectively. Anderson from porto was linked to Barca ever since he was coming through the ranks at Gremio and we signed him without any link or speculation whatsoever. Most of us only got wind when United confirmed it on the official site.
Groove is in the heart soundtracked compilation of him when?
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De Ligt isn't even a fan of Barca nor Spanish football. He's said before that he doesn't even watch La Liga (when De Jong said he preferred La Liga over the Prem), and that English football has the best football culture/'atmosphere' in his eyes.
Also this interview from a couple years ago:
And the Sports chief of De Telegraaf saying the other day that apparently he/his entourage is surprised no English club has come knocking
Ffs mate!! You are starting the De Ligt hype train now, and I’m all over him now. Woody get him!!
Maybe I am wrong, but if he has engaged Raiola that has to be a red flag. He is one of the best young players in Europe, he will get a great contract whoever his agent is. Having Raiola tells me that he wants to play for several clubs over the next decade rather than building something at one club.
And yet, Barca don't care.
Raiola is Dutch born and will have been asked by De Ligt's agent Barry Hulshoff to get the lad the best possible deal due to his experience and expertise. I don't think we should look too much into Raiola's involvement. Maybe Raiola being involved might infact help us due to his past dealings with us.
De Ligt seems like a very head-on-right, down-to-earth kid. Dolberg was complaining in an interview the other day that De Ligt's been wearing the same pair of beaten up standard adidas sneakers for over a year for example.
While I agree that Raiola is scum and am extremely wary about any player signed with him (which unfortunately has often been the case at Ajax, seeing as we're his breeding ground), the reason De Ligt enlisted his services is simply because his agent is Barry Hulshoff, this ex-Ajax player:
who undoubtedly can give him a lot of advice and keep him focused, etc. but has zero experience as an agent outside of De Ligt, basically.
So if you're a young player with every club in the world after you, and you needed someone to just negotiate on your behalf, would you not choose Raiola?
Having Raiola is not an indication of anything. A player of De Ligt’s quality will leave regardless of who his agent is, if he wants to, and will stay regardless of who his agent is if he wants.
I don’t know who Mane or Salah’s agents are, but if they wanted to leave this summer they wouldn’t need Raiola. I think Mino is painted as some sort of boogeyman. He’s just an agent, and a pretty good one by all accounts.
Its funny this; because evidence point to the contrary. We have actually made our biggest signings like Di Maria when we have not been eligable for the CL. That said; he is probably going to Barca this summer. And it will be by his own choice. So in the case of De Ligt i kinda agree, but to say that top players are not going to look Uniteds way is quite delusional.
I would choose Raiola even if he's in chair throwing mode.De Ligt seems like a very head-on-right, down-to-earth kid. Dolberg was complaining in an interview the other day that De Ligt's been wearing the same pair of beaten up standard adidas sneakers for over a year for example.
While I agree that Raiola is scum and am extremely wary about any player signed with him (which unfortunately has often been the case at Ajax, seeing as we're his breeding ground), the reason De Ligt enlisted his services is simply because his agent is Barry Hulshoff, this ex-Ajax player:
who undoubtedly can give him a lot of advice and keep him focused, etc. but has zero experience as an agent outside of De Ligt, basically.
So if you're a young player with every club in the world after you, and you needed someone to just negotiate on your behalf, would you not choose Raiola?
I wouldn't mind signing Hirving Lozano, Costas Manolas, and giving Pogba 500k per week deal and some 10,20 odd millions to that pig of an agent Raiola if we could get De Ligt.
As the last ditch effort we could even Sell De Gea and buy Donnarumma to grease the palms of that agent.
As the last ditch effort we could even Sell De Gea and buy Donnarumma to grease the palms of that agent.
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De Ligt isn't even a fan of Barca nor Spanish football. He's said before that he doesn't even watch La Liga (when De Jong said he preferred La Liga over the Prem), and that English football has the best football culture/'atmosphere' in his eyes.
Also this interview from a couple years ago:
And the Sports chief of De Telegraaf saying the other day that apparently he/his entourage is surprised no English club has come knocking
Vicious, irresponsible post this. Don't. Just... don't.
You're making it pretty hard to give up on this.nope
De Ligt isn't even a fan of Barca nor Spanish football. He's said before that he doesn't even watch La Liga (when De Jong said he preferred La Liga over the Prem), and that English football has the best football culture/'atmosphere' in his eyes.
Also this interview from a couple years ago:
And the Sports chief of De Telegraaf saying the other day that apparently he/his entourage is surprised no English club has come knocking
So if I'm reading this properly, he's definitely coming to United?
When we beat them at Europa final, I thought we should've made the bid.
Davinson Sanchez was the player to watch in that final, but my eyes were always looking at De Ligt.
Davinson Sanchez was the player to watch in that final, but my eyes were always looking at De Ligt.
Sanchez? All the hype was around De Ligt and Dolberg at the time, not Sanchez. Spurs bought him that summer but he was never considered the bigger prospect.
No I remember correctly, during that time it was all the hype on Sanchez. De Ligt was just establishing himself that season.
We are also becoming like ED, dreaming or chasing players who won't come to us, It's a waste of time guys, This guy already had offers from clubs like Barca and rumour is even City want him.
It's a waste of time for us
I will be happy if we get 2 from the following 4 on the max budget of 100 mil and they are gettable too
Skriniar/ Toby / Minalos / Koulibaly
If money is a constraint, then we can get Toby and Minalos for 60 million and sell Darmian/Rojo/Smalling for 40'million
Also we can sign Meunière for 25 mil
Means with net spend of 45 mil our defence will look a lot better
It's a waste of time for us
I will be happy if we get 2 from the following 4 on the max budget of 100 mil and they are gettable too
Skriniar/ Toby / Minalos / Koulibaly
If money is a constraint, then we can get Toby and Minalos for 60 million and sell Darmian/Rojo/Smalling for 40'million
Also we can sign Meunière for 25 mil
Means with net spend of 45 mil our defence will look a lot better
Why would this lad, or any other top player who dreams of winning stuff, come to United to play for a manager who has won or achieved nothing as a top level manager aside from relegation?
Who is currently overseeing United's worst run in decades?
Players will take other options, and who can blame them.
We aren’t going to get hungry, top quality players coming here unless we throw so much money at them.
Who is currently overseeing United's worst run in decades?
Players will take other options, and who can blame them.
We aren’t going to get hungry, top quality players coming here unless we throw so much money at them.
Have to understand the motivation of different players. Some will be inspired by being entrusted to revive and become a hero of a big club. Not all will, but some will. Our challenge is finding those players.
Christ, he's turned into Walder FreyDe Ligt seems like a very head-on-right, down-to-earth kid. Dolberg was complaining in an interview the other day that De Ligt's been wearing the same pair of beaten up standard adidas sneakers for over a year for example.
While I agree that Raiola is scum and am extremely wary about any player signed with him (which unfortunately has often been the case at Ajax, seeing as we're his breeding ground), the reason De Ligt enlisted his services is simply because his agent is Barry Hulshoff, this ex-Ajax player:
who undoubtedly can give him a lot of advice and keep him focused, etc. but has zero experience as an agent outside of De Ligt, basically.
So if you're a young player with every club in the world after you, and you needed someone to just negotiate on your behalf, would you not choose Raiola?
Just tell them it's all about the fit to the club's football, values, and give them the Rijkaard anecdote
:So this summer the only question you need to ask potential new signings is: "Do you want to be United's Ronaldinho?
No you arent remembering it correctly. The hype was because De ligt had just turned 17 but was already one of their best players, jow he was so composed on the ball while Mourinho basically targeted Sanchez in the game.
We made Sanchez look absolutely clueless in the EL final. Made him the free man in our marking and he couldn't do a damn thing.
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