Yeah it's truly a shame we didn't think about this two seasons back when it would have been a great option.
You just can't fathom the stupidity of our club two seasons ago we play against Ajax in a final Sanchez was decent, De Ligt was outstanding in the game. Sanchez goes to spurs, we end up signing Lindelof who struggles and was terrible in his first season, since then has shown that at best he'll be a decent feature for the squad in years to come.
Present times De Ligt has established himself in two years as a world class defender, will walk into any central defensive pairing the contrast between him and our entire set of defenders night and day. The entire world are interested now fans and media alike are harping plaudits.
You are now seeing why our transfer policy has been diabolical. We give impetus to the manager too much and miss out on players who would have had minimal competition for signatures, we was recommended Goretzka for free and went against it last season. We are now going to see the exact same structure supercede itself with Solskjaer, all targets he wants and not a collective ambition with a DOF who will always be at the club regardless of the manager.
We are already set up to fail next season, Einstein's theory of doing the same thing expecting different results, nothings changed.
Whilst he is a good Player it's going to hurt me watch us buy Umtiti whilst De ligt goes to Barca.
I'm hoping the lad is up for a challenge at somewhere 'different' but all it is is wishful thinking.
Totally agree.Should have signed him after the EL final, the talent was apparent even then.
Umtiti would improve United's back line massively. Im puzzled as to why United is not being linked with MDL though.
Isnt Umtitis knee comparable to Hargreaves? Probably a reason they wanna get rid of him.
Could be, its a bit of a mysterious injury but it hasn't repeated enough times to get to Hargreaves territory yet. Id take De Ligt over him because of his potential and age but Umtiti is a quality player as well
You just can't fathom the stupidity of our club two seasons ago we play against Ajax in a final Sanchez was decent, De Ligt was outstanding in the game. Sanchez goes to spurs, we end up signing Lindelof who struggles and was terrible in his first season, since then has shown that at best he'll be a decent feature for the squad in years to come.
Present times De Ligt has established himself in two years as a world class defender, will walk into any central defensive pairing the contrast between him and our entire set of defenders night and day. The entire world are interested now fans and media alike are harping plaudits.
You are now seeing why our transfer policy has been diabolical. We give impetus to the manager too much and miss out on players who would have had minimal competition for signatures, we was recommended Goretzka for free and went against it last season. We are now going to see the exact same structure supercede itself with Solskjaer, all targets he wants and not a collective ambition with a DOF who will always be at the club regardless of the manager.
We are already set up to fail next season, Einstein's theory of doing the same thing expecting different results, nothings changed.
Isnt Umtitis knee comparable to Hargreaves? Probably a reason they wanna get rid of him.
Haven't Ajax said that they don't want a bidding war, they want him to go to whichever club he wants. So 150 mil from United might mean nothing if his heart is set on Barcelona and they offer say 90 mil.if i were running United, my first move would be to throw 150m at Ajax for De Ligt. I'm weirdly confident he'd be open to the move.
despite his young age, De Ligt would not only bring his world class quality as a centreback but also a 'power'/grit that United seem to be missing entirely in this squad
if i were running United, my first move would be to throw 150m at Ajax for De Ligt. I'm weirdly confident he'd be open to the move.
despite his young age, De Ligt would not only bring his world class quality as a centreback but also a 'power'/grit that United seem to be missing entirely in this squad
if i were running United, my first move would be to throw 150m at Ajax for De Ligt. I'm weirdly confident he'd be open to the move.
despite his young age, De Ligt would not only bring his world class quality as a centreback but also a 'power'/grit that United seem to be missing entirely in this squad
if i were running United, my first move would be to throw 150m at Ajax for De Ligt. I'm weirdly confident he'd be open to the move.
despite his young age, De Ligt would not only bring his world class quality as a centreback but also a 'power'/grit that United seem to be missing entirely in this squad
Haven't Ajax said that they don't want a bidding war, they want him to go to whichever club he wants. So 150 mil from United might mean nothing if his heart is set on Barcelona and they offer say 90 mil.
My hope at the time we beat PSG was that VDS might be recommending United as a place to go make his name. Now it would be a step down from Ajax and a huge drop from the potential role he might play in Barcelona with pique hitting his mid 30s.
Barca is a done deal. Without them, i would say maybe, but no way would he come here when they are interested and in advanced talks. Plus our CEO is out of his depth football wise
De Ligt's English was, he says, pretty bad before he joined the first team. But by speaking it and particularly by reading English books, it's made substantial improvements. "I prefer those to Dutch books because they contain far more beautiful expressions and phrases." He particularly enjoys football autobiographies and has read several. "From Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic and John Terry to Bobby Moore. When I read them, I just feel football. When they talk about "Reading the game" or a "towering defender". Doesn't that sound far better in English? Stunning!/
Why would you do this to us? Its the hope that kills you!nope that's literally just Catalan press working overtime for keep Barca to keep potential competitors away.
De Ligt isn't even a fan of Barca nor Spanish football. He's said before that he doesn't even watch La Liga (when De Jong said he preferred La Liga over the Prem), and that English football has the best football culture/'atmosphere' in his eyes.
Also this interview from a couple years ago:
And the Sports chief of De Telegraaf saying the other day that apparently he/his entourage is surprised no English club has come knocking
Couldn't Rio offer to sign his copy of the book... maybe take him on the Old Trafford tour? That would still be more than what Ed offers.nope that's literally just Catalan press working overtime for keep Barca to keep potential competitors away.
De Ligt isn't even a fan of Barca nor Spanish football. He's said before that he doesn't even watch La Liga (when De Jong said he preferred La Liga over the Prem), and that English football has the best football culture/'atmosphere' in his eyes.
Also this interview from a couple years ago:
And the Sports chief of De Telegraaf saying the other day that apparently he/his entourage is surprised no English club has come knocking
son of a....Why would you do this to us? Its the hope that kills you!
trueWhy would you do this to us? Its the hope that kills you!
How haven't we even enquired about him? he's clearly planning on coming to England and clearly has a soft spot for us.
I don't think anywhere reputable has actually reported that, you'd think every single club worth their salt would have made a number of enquiries if he were available and open to somewhere other than Barca.How do you know we haven't? I've read stories (as that's what they are) that have stated we've been interested in him as a player for years.
I reckon if we got Messi in we might make top 4.Pigs might fly
Nah he’d instantly turn naffI reckon if we got Messi in we might make top 4.
This. De Ligt is being wooed by every major club in Europe. To think that we are not "in" for him is plain stupidity. We will have offered the world for him financially. It will come down to where he wants to go himself though and it seems like its going to be Barcelona.I don't think anywhere reputable has actually reported that, you'd think every single club worth their salt would have made a number of enquiries if he were available and open to somewhere other than Barca.
I like your positivity. You almost convince me it is doable. We all know how hard that second paragraph is going to be currently. A fresh project can be appealing to some though.Yep, throw a blank cheque at Ajax and De Ligt. United broke the world record for Stam and Ferdinand back in the day, and we shouldn't hesitate to similarly smash Van Dijk's erstwhile record for De Ligt. By proportion, the club allocated roughly ⅕th of its turnover towards Rio's transfer fee in 2002 — which equates to about €130 million for the current year, and that might just put us in a very favorable position, unless he's set on joining another club and the negotiations are at a relatively advanced stage. If De Ligt is already one of the best centerbacks in club football, and arguably the best young centerback since Nesta at Lazio, imagine how imperious he's going to be at his peak and how long he could serve the club as a footballer and as a leader.
Selling the United “project” to the player himself would be the crucial (and most difficult) part, however — any elite or to-be elite player would be justifiably wary of a club that is going through an extremely tumultuous period with no outward signs of the management having a coherent plan to set things right (on top of two of the best players being linked with moves to other teams...with one of them being represented by De Ligt's facilitator Raiola, no less), especially if we miss out on Champions League qualification (which should be the bare minimum for a club of United's stature/financial clout).
Would stay well clear of us if he had any sense.