Barca winning the CL was back in 2014, not exactly recent, is it?
Since then they’ve progressed 1 round more than Juve twice and went out 2 rounds earlier than Juve once and exited the same stage once.
It hardly shows they’re at a higher level.
Matthijs de Ligt / signs for Juventus, lowering their average age to 56
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Since then they’ve progressed 1 round more than Juve twice and went out 2 rounds earlier than Juve once and exited the same stage once.
It hardly shows they’re at a higher level.
That would be hilarious if it was Longstaff or McGinn
.But who could we realistically bring and be excited about? No idea...
Expecting Juve to wrap this up quickly. Many reliable sources have already said this is close. Don't think another PSG will happen.
If it weren't for the rumours about the release clause, I'd have speculated that maybe Barca told him he won't be first choice in the starting 11 early doors. That is the only footballing reason I can fathom that could have affected his choice, given how far he went in the CL starting for Ajax.
This is getting boring. Why is it taking so long for Juve to wrap this up? does the kid change his mind everyday?
It's probably all done and pending announcement. We took a couple of days to formally announce AWB and James, two very straight forward clear cut transfers without any complex fees to agents or big marketing process in the background.
Like us and Pogba?
There's no evidence he has changed his mind. On the other hand journos have to write new articles every day.
Raiola just takes his time to negociate the best deal for his client. It's still early in the summer by transfer standards.
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Given that the agent appears to be insisting on placing a 150m Euro release clause in the contract whoever signs him basically has him on loan for 2-3 seasons max, he is going to get whored around top clubs as a play thing for the agent.
It would be if they overinflate the fees excessively. I don't think this is the case. Spinazzola has been hampered by injuries but is otherwise a highly rated player in Italy, and Pellegrini is considered one of the best prospects
They're trying to short-change ajax now apparently
It's still expected they'll pay what they want within the next couple days if they can't convince them to lower the price, which they likely won't
Though having said all that, way this has gone, this won't be over until the contracts are signed. Would be funny if he ultimately turns them down. Though it's hard to see why at this point. Barcelona aren't going back for him now they're trying to sign neymar. Would someone else step up and offer him £350k a week?
Its also an opportunity to buy a phenomenal talent at 75 million and then double your investment in a few years time! It's a no brainier. To think a CB of all positions might go for 150 million even in three years time is wild.
Not to mention, if in 3 years we are top of the food chain again, what's to say he won't sign a new contract. Bloody hell, absolutely add the release clause in there
They're trying to short-change ajax now apparently
It's still expected they'll pay what they want within the next couple days if they can't convince them to lower the price, which they likely won't
Though having said all that, way this has gone, this won't be over until the contracts are signed. Would be funny if he ultimately turns them down. Though it's hard to see why at this point. Barcelona aren't going back for him now they're trying to sign neymar. Would someone else step up and offer him £350k a week?
£350k per week per the papers is probably closer to ,£120-150k per week plus bonuses. De Ligt himself laughed at the sums being tossed around in the papers. But don't have to believe him. Rashford was supposed to be on 300/week but it's maybe 200k already factoring in achievement for full bonuses
Page 251. Sigh.
Remember pages 1-100? Those were the pages. They don't make pages like those anymore.
Now I can hear Anna Hathaway lamenting:
"I dreamed a dream in times gone by
When hope was high and life worth living."
Remember pages 1-100? Those were the pages. They don't make pages like those anymore.
Now I can hear Anna Hathaway lamenting:
"I dreamed a dream in times gone by
When hope was high and life worth living."
Yep I hear you, but in 3 years time in this fecked up ever inflating market, how much is 150m actually worth then, plus you are having to rebuild again having possibly coached and primed him for somebody else.
It’s a bit crap that United were distancing themselves from DeLigt by saying they were adamant he was going to Barca and that a deal had been agreed so they weren’t bothering and now supposedly he is joining Juventus. If that’s to be believed I mean he was joining Barca then bang on for PSG and now it’s Juve so who really knows.
He just seems like one of those players that no one can afford to miss out on and at a reported 75mil seems like something you move heaven and earth for.
I’m still unzipped in the off chance a miracle happens but it’s been weeks of unzippedness and there is only so much you can do.
He just seems like one of those players that no one can afford to miss out on and at a reported 75mil seems like something you move heaven and earth for.
I’m still unzipped in the off chance a miracle happens but it’s been weeks of unzippedness and there is only so much you can do.
Perfect path to ease in Tuanzebee, no?
The (our) release clause is obviously putting clubs off.
I just don't understand this attitude.
Isn't the most exciting part the actual unzipping? What's the point in staying unzipped? Where's the thrill and rush from potential and hope? I'd rather zip up after every false whisper and be fresh and ready to go than deal with an off-putting draft in the interim.
Clever contract work from united - high salary, chance to be top dog AND a release clause that will double our money but is scaring other clubs off. That’s some 4d chess from United right there
After the Oracle Spoofex spoke I figured it was fully unzip time and I’ve been unzipped ever since. I could never put it away after an unzipping. You either fully commit to the unzip or you don’t. None of this stop starting rubbish.
However a month on from those whispers and people are starting to question why i’m Doing my weekly shopping unzipped.
People, be careful with all of this unzipping, zipping back up, unzipping again, etc. Someone could get hurt!!
Keep it out flying high.
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Disappeared from Sky Bet a couple of days ago.
I think Juventus is already done.
I think Juventus is already done.
Could be that he has a nice breeze where he lives.
So any updates, other than De Ligt saying no to everyone?
I know what you’re getting at but he’s leaving the club he grew up at. He’s probably not bothered/loyal to any of United / Liverpool / Bayern / Madrid / Juve.
Why wouldn’t he want to get as much money as he can? I get it falls into insignificance because he won’t be hard up wherever he goes, but if one club means an extra £50,000 a week - why wouldn’t he be motivated by that?
People get too invested in what he's doing. I don't have a problem in him getting the best deal, consulting his family and girlfriend or saying I'll leave next year after all this. Before we'd just hear the outcome and the odd piece in the paper.
Going to be an incredible signing for Juve. Given they're also adding Rabiot, think they're good to be one of the absolute favourites for the CL over the next few years.
Raiola has obviously been making deals with several clubs. He's been talking to Juve most recently but that doesn't necessarily put them ahead. He was nailed on for Barca and PSG but hasn't signed for either yet.
He's probably got fully drawn up contracts with 4-5 different clubs and all De Ligt has to do is choose one at the end and sign the dotted line. He's been on holiday for weeks while Raiola has done all the work and stirred up stories to increase the fees for himself and the player.
I doubt anyone really knows which team is winning the race at the moment. Maybe De Ligt doesn't even know. It's not easy to decide when you have so many choices, all with their own pros and cons.
He's probably got fully drawn up contracts with 4-5 different clubs and all De Ligt has to do is choose one at the end and sign the dotted line. He's been on holiday for weeks while Raiola has done all the work and stirred up stories to increase the fees for himself and the player.
I doubt anyone really knows which team is winning the race at the moment. Maybe De Ligt doesn't even know. It's not easy to decide when you have so many choices, all with their own pros and cons.
Imagine they leave everything to the deadline day, choose a team A or whatever. Then he fails the medical test...
Imagine they leave everything to the deadline day, choose a team A or whatever. Then he fails the medical test...
When does his holiday end? Can't be long, pre-season for Ajax must start soon and if he hasn't signed he'll be expected to attend.
so.. he still hasn't signed for any one. so slow to get things down that he must be related to Woodward
I get it and of course anyone would want to take an extra £50k a week but I was pointing out the way he has been acting about it with he’s interviews and social media. At he’s age he should be concentrating on winning titles as the money will come where ever he goes. I can’t believe a youngster who has the opportunity to play with Messi or Ronaldo wouldn’t just follow he’s dream rather then money...
We obviously tried but he didn't fancy moving to us in a bad state, so that's that. The other clubs are offering a similar salary so we don't even have that advantage.
Time to button up and live to unzip another day on this one i'm afraid.
Maybe this Maguire bid is a smoke screen for him to hurry the feck up and decide?
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