[pocco]

To be fair Ashworth and our scouting team were against this as per papers at that time but Ineos still went for it to keep TenHag happy as he really wanted this transfer.

Wondering how much we can get if we try to offload him in this summer.

Having said he gives everything and the way he played with blood pouring from his head will stuck in my head forever....I really wish other players got half heart as him, its a pity his style doesn't suit to premiere league

Papers have been saying it was Ineos not in favour of this signing and Ashworth wanted him as he wanted to back ETH.

I think everyone wants to wash their hands of some of these signings already. I find it difficult to believe this doesn’t have ETHs fingerprints all over it given their connection and our transfer dealings under him.

The only saving grace is that we were signing these guys whilst the structure and things were still put in place, so I’d like to think with more time and preparation we wouldn’t make these mistakes.

 

[KirkDuyt]

I spent entire summer arguing with people here that we aren't getting good value considering Bayern was happy to let him go, and we needed someone that will actually improve the defence, not another Maguire but this time from Holland. I was attacked from different people that it's my hatred towards Ten Hag and his Dutch signings.

I thought he'd be amazing for you as well.

Think him also being average at United has made me give up

 

[foolsgold]

I posted this when he signed for us, along with my reservations based on why he failed at Bayern and Juve.

Wesley Sneijder on his move...



Van Basten...



And I remember posters slating Scholes for suggesting he isn’t much better than what we have. He’s been a downgrade on Varane, and he’s not better than Lisandro or Maguire either. Tuchel dropped him because he was too ponderous on the ball and not quick enough for the high line. There’s reasons he was sold by Juve then Bayern, but us being the suckers we are stepped right in to take him off their hands.

There are very few players that wouldn't be a downgrade on a fit Varane, Looks slightly better than Maguire for me, his availability puts hm ahead of Lisandro, much as we all love him, he's no good in the treatment room.

I think De Ligt is one of those players that looks great in a winning, functional team, but when you need someone to lift the levels he's not your guy.