Matteo Darmian | LVG confirms he's on his way here for a medical

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Exactly, you nor I or NL Max know the real events. It has been said by some sources so until we know otherwise it is fair game to be analysed.
How can you analyse something you don't know whether is true and even assuming is true, could be for a variety of reasons? You can discuss it under the assumption that we are completely inept at negotiating or concluding a deal and hence take 4 months to agree a 10 million pound deal, but that's a lot of unrealistic assumptions to base a discussion on. So sending "alarm bells" off on the basis of that seems rather odd to me.
 
While I am happy with this signing (seems its done), it's absolutely shocking that this transfer took 4 months to complete.

I mean when you think about it, his transfer fee wasn't exactly very big. It probably should of been met without question. Was there a host of other clubs in for him? Juventus possibly? But I'm really not sure, I've not heard of another club linked with him.

So we had zero resistance, with a low transfer few and it takes us 4 months to complete said deal... does that not set alarm bells off with anyone?

Because he probably wasn't the only player we were analysing and he probably wasn't the only full back we looked at. We would have targets and check them out in detail. Then to go and analyse their cost how much they would benefit etc. for instance I guess Coleman or Clyne would have been our first targets till we scrapped Clyne coz he isn't any better than what we have. Then Alves gave us a tease till June 10th. Then Coleman we were probably out priced and then darmian now. We may contacted him multiple times but I don't think it was 4 months of talking to him and Torino. The bid news came last Sunday or so(don't remember to be fair) and we almost sealed it by Wednesday. Seems quick enough
 
I dont think we took 4 months to negotiate a deal with Torino and Darmian. I think we first expressed a serious interest in signing him back then, and kept tabs on him till the summer began. I don't think any transfer deal kept this quiet till the last moment can be done over 4 months.

There is not much there to even negotiate over 4 months, Darmian is hardly a household name, it's more likely we had him as our B option, with Alves the main target.
 
People getting cranky it's not done when it was reported just yday that he'd have his medical tomorrow.

Fecking hell, you lot are incredible :lol: :lol:
 
I understand some people losing it. Since Depays signing the dreaded muppet fever (like Ebola but real), has reared it's ugly head and got it's cock out. We just want deals and quite frankly, we want them now. We're not Madrid, who'll be you know, courting De Gea all summer long chasing his granny down the road. We want deals now. I'm hopeful that in the next 5-6 days, we'll have signed a number of players to keep us going. If not? Nuts will be busted.
 
How can you analyse something you don't know whether is true and even assuming is true, could be for a variety of reasons? You can discuss it under the assumption that we are completely inept at negotiating or concluding a deal and hence take 4 months to agree a 10 million pound deal, but that's a lot of unrealistic assumptions to base a discussion on. So sending "alarm bells" off on the basis of that seems rather odd to me.

Not really, either it did take 4 months or it didn't.

If we only contacted them a few weeks or a month ago then we done well to get the deal done quickly, more so because it was kept under wraps form other clubs and the media.

However if it did take the 4 months that is being reported, for me that suggests there are serious issues within our transfer policy and possibly Woodward might not be up to the job.
 
Well I did mention Juve, so I assume nothing.

I'm sorry but 4 months to carry out a transfer like this is a considerable period of time. More so when we have "bigger fish to fry". This should of been done in a fortnight, a month at most.

From what we've heard so far of the deal, I'm failing to see why it would take 4 months to complete.

Alves. He played everyone to suit himself. Also it didn't take 4 months to do the deal. It was said we've been talking to Torino and Darmian since 4 months ago. That doesn't mean we were in contact all the time. We might have just put the feelers out then waiting on the Alves situation. The deal itself would've taken a week or so to be done but with other suitors and Alves possibility we played the waiting game it seems.
 
Not really, either it did take 4 months or it didn't.

If we only contacted them a few weeks or a month ago then we done well to get the deal done quickly, more so because it was kept under wraps form other clubs and the media.

However if it did take the 4 months that is being reported, for me that suggests there are serious issues within our transfer policy and possibly Woodward might not be up to the job.
Did it take 4 months?
 
While I am happy with this signing (seems its done), it's absolutely shocking that this transfer took 4 months to complete.

I mean when you think about it, his transfer fee wasn't exactly very big. It probably should of been met without question. Was there a host of other clubs in for him? Juventus possibly? But I'm really not sure, I've not heard of another club linked with him.

So we had zero resistance, with a low transfer few and it takes us 4 months to complete said deal... does that not set alarm bells off with anyone?
No.
 
While I am happy with this signing (seems its done), it's absolutely shocking that this transfer took 4 months to complete.

I mean when you think about it, his transfer fee wasn't exactly very big. It probably should of been met without question. Was there a host of other clubs in for him? Juventus possibly? But I'm really not sure, I've not heard of another club linked with him.

So we had zero resistance, with a low transfer few and it takes us 4 months to complete said deal... does that not set alarm bells off with anyone?

Ffs
 
Because he probably wasn't the only player we were analysing and he probably wasn't the only full back we looked at. We would have targets and check them out in detail. Then to go and analyse their cost how much they would benefit etc. for instance I guess Coleman or Clyne would have been our first targets till we scrapped Clyne coz he isn't any better than what we have. Then Alves gave us a tease till June 10th. Then Coleman we were probably out priced and then darmian now. We may contacted him multiple times but I don't think it was 4 months of talking to him and Torino. The bid news came last Sunday or so(don't remember to be fair) and we almost sealed it by Wednesday. Seems quick enough

United representatives have been in contact with Darmian's agent for four months, that is one of the rumours. All I am asking is if it is true, should it not set off alarm bells.

Sooo, your suggesting we can only work on one transfer at a time? Also the fact we are only getting our 3rd choice for a RB, isn't that also underwhelming? I personally can't say much about Darmian's quality as I haven't seen him. I'm glad we have cover though for Valencia and that the RB issue has been addressed. I trust LVG's judgement as well of course so I don't see fault in any of that. You've just basically confirmed why I have doubts, thanks Prath!

The fault being that in a summer where transfer business should be vital for the upcoming season so we have a squad good enough for CL football and PL football we appear to be dragging our feet, being messed around by players looking for pay rises at their current clubs and we appear undecided over who exactly we want. Basically we are getting a mix of the previous 3 summer transfer windows all rolled into one so far.
 
It's a lie Lilricky. I wouldn't waste your energy over a lie ;) Or perhaps that's a rumor too? lol. That's the problem with getting pent up over rumors I suppose.
 
It's not done until there are signatures on papers. We will see what tomorrow brings. :)
 
Alves. He played everyone to suit himself. Also it didn't take 4 months to do the deal. It was said we've been talking to Torino and Darmian since 4 months ago. That doesn't mean we were in contact all the time. We might have just put the feelers out then waiting on the Alves situation. The deal itself would've taken a week or so to be done but with other suitors and Alves possibility we played the waiting game it seems.
Yeah that is most likely the way it worked if the 4 months thing is true. A few informal talks along the way type of thing
 
United representatives have been in contact with Darmian's agent for four months, that is one of the rumours. All I am asking is if it is true, should it not set off alarm bells.

Sooo, your suggesting we can only work on one transfer at a time? Also the fact we are only getting our 3rd choice for a RB, isn't that also underwhelming? I personally can't say much about Darmian's quality as I haven't seen him. I'm glad we have cover though for Valencia and that the RB issue has been addressed. I trust LVG's judgement as well of course so I don't see fault in any of that. You've just basically confirmed why I have doubts, thanks Prath!

The fault being that in a summer where transfer business should be vital for the upcoming season so we have a squad good enough for CL football and PL football we appear to be dragging our feet, being messed around by players looking for pay rises at their current clubs and we appear undecided over who exactly we want. Basically we are getting a mix of the previous 3 summer transfer windows all rolled into one so far.

Oh dear. Someone send the muppet ambulance
 
United representatives have been in contact with Darmian's agent for four months, that is one of the rumours. All I am asking is if it is true, should it not set off alarm bells.

Sooo, your suggesting we can only work on one transfer at a time? Also the fact we are only getting our 3rd choice for a RB, isn't that also underwhelming? I personally can't say much about Darmian's quality as I haven't seen him. I'm glad we have cover though for Valencia and that the RB issue has been addressed. I trust LVG's judgement as well of course so I don't see fault in any of that. You've just basically confirmed why I have doubts, thanks Prath!

The fault being that in a summer where transfer business should be vital for the upcoming season so we have a squad good enough for CL football and PL football we appear to be dragging our feet, being messed around by players looking for pay rises at their current clubs and we appear undecided over who exactly we want. Basically we are getting a mix of the previous 3 summer transfer windows all rolled into one so far.

we weren't going to sign him before the season got over. There were internationals in June and he probably went on vacations too. We seem to have signed him in 10 days of transfer window. Pretty quick.

The most obvious transfer of cech to arsenal took more than a month to get confirmed. There is a lot of process involved in negotiations
 
Did it take 4 months?






Oh dear. Someone send the muppet ambulance


Unless any of you can prove it didn't take 4 months, this is fair game for debate. They way you lot are posting you'd think United are transfer gods. Lads, reality check here, we are prone to error. Just like any club, we are not perfect. Please remove the red tinted goggles.

This is after all supposed to be an open forum, all any of us can do is highlight rumours within the media and post them here for discussion. Some are true, some are not. I post it because a number of outlets have said United officials have been in discussions with Darmian's representatives dating back 4 months.

Now excuse me for having a feckin opinion here folks, god forbid I had one.

Instead of the lot of you reacting so incredibly childishly, how about actually putting some intelligent reasoning together and engaging your brain and discussing something that could possibly be an issue?

The way some of you post on here you'd think United were never at fault with any transfer in recent years, when in fact United's transfer policy leaves a lot to be desired. We sometimes over pay when buying, we sell for less than we should really be getting and god knows we most definitely do delay and stall over transfers at various stages for a variety of different reasons. Perfect example, Morgan Schneiderlin, bid put in nearly 3 weeks ago and nothing since? Curious situation really. This seems to happen a lot with most players we enter into negotiations with.
 
United representatives have been in contact with Darmian's agent for four months, that is one of the rumours. All I am asking is if it is true, should it not set off alarm bells.

Sooo, your suggesting we can only work on one transfer at a time? Also the fact we are only getting our 3rd choice for a RB, isn't that also underwhelming? I personally can't say much about Darmian's quality as I haven't seen him. I'm glad we have cover though for Valencia and that the RB issue has been addressed. I trust LVG's judgement as well of course so I don't see fault in any of that. You've just basically confirmed why I have doubts, thanks Prath!

The fault being that in a summer where transfer business should be vital for the upcoming season so we have a squad good enough for CL football and PL football we appear to be dragging our feet, being messed around by players looking for pay rises at their current clubs and we appear undecided over who exactly we want. Basically we are getting a mix of the previous 3 summer transfer windows all rolled into one so far.
Bingo. How can something set off alarm bells when you don't know if it's true let alone the reasons as to why it happened?

Think about that for roughly 5 seconds and then decide whether anything you're saying makes sense.
 
Unless any of you can prove it didn't take 4 months, this is fair game for debate.
Alright mate.

Woody is actually a robot. Prove me wrong.

Woody is envied in Spain and considered a brilliant chief executive. I read a rumour the other day. Prove me wrong.
 
United representatives have been in contact with Darmian's agent for four months, that is one of the rumours. All I am asking is if it is true, should it not set off alarm bells.

Sooo, your suggesting we can only work on one transfer at a time? Also the fact we are only getting our 3rd choice for a RB, isn't that also underwhelming? I personally can't say much about Darmian's quality as I haven't seen him. I'm glad we have cover though for Valencia and that the RB issue has been addressed. I trust LVG's judgement as well of course so I don't see fault in any of that. You've just basically confirmed why I have doubts, thanks Prath!

The fault being that in a summer where transfer business should be vital for the upcoming season so we have a squad good enough for CL football and PL football we appear to be dragging our feet, being messed around by players looking for pay rises at their current clubs and we appear undecided over who exactly we want. Basically we are getting a mix of the previous 3 summer transfer windows all rolled into one so far.

Also Every deal would have to be approved by at least Woodward and LvG. They probably send teams whenever they want negotiations done. The team does the same and reports to Woodward and LvG. Who then decide. And as I said we may have contacted him or Torino or both couple of times in April to show that we have interest and then we analyse whether he is better than the others. The contact was probably to ask them to keep us in the loop if in case anyone else bids for him (like we did for depay). So that we won't miss out on him.
 
Unless any of you can prove it didn't take 4 months, this is fair game for debate. They way you lot are posting you'd think United are transfer gods. Lads, reality check here, we are prone to error. Just like any club, we are not perfect. Please remove the red tinted goggles.

This is after all supposed to be an open forum, all any of us can do is highlight rumours within the media and post them here for discussion. Some are true, some are not. I post it because a number of outlets have said United officials have been in discussions with Darmian's representatives dating back 4 months.

Now excuse me for having a feckin opinion here folks, god forbid I had one.

Instead of the lot of you reacting so incredibly childishly, how about actually putting some intelligent reasoning together and engaging your brain and discussing something that could possibly be an issue?

The way some of you post on here you'd think United were never at fault with any transfer in recent years, when in fact United's transfer policy leaves a lot to be desired. We sometimes over pay when buying, we sell for less than we should really be getting and god knows we most definitely do delay and stall over transfers at various stages for a variety of different reasons. Perfect example, Morgan Schneiderlin, bid put in nearly 3 weeks ago and nothing since? Curious situation really. This seems to happen a lot with most players we enter into negotiations with.
Oh ffs. A little patience? Our chief executive doesn't do his job to please people refreshing the Twitter thread every 2 minutes.
 
Unless any of you can prove it didn't take 4 months, this is fair game for debate. They way you lot are posting you'd think United are transfer gods. Lads, reality check here, we are prone to error. Just like any club, we are not perfect. Please remove the red tinted goggles.

This is after all supposed to be an open forum, all any of us can do is highlight rumours within the media and post them here for discussion. Some are true, some are not. I post it because a number of outlets have said United officials have been in discussions with Darmian's representatives dating back 4 months.

Now excuse me for having a feckin opinion here folks, god forbid I had one.

Instead of the lot of you reacting so incredibly childishly, how about actually putting some intelligent reasoning together and engaging your brain and discussing something that could possibly be an issue?

The way some of you post on here you'd think United were never at fault with any transfer in recent years, when in fact United's transfer policy leaves a lot to be desired. We sometimes over pay when buying, we sell for less than we should really be getting and god knows we most definitely do delay and stall over transfers at various stages for a variety of different reasons. Perfect example, Morgan Schneiderlin, bid put in nearly 3 weeks ago and nothing since? Curious situation really. This seems to happen a lot with most players we enter into negotiations with.

I already gave you a sensible answer which you seemed to have missed.
 
Trying to remember the player City signed a couple of summers ago. Based on the rumours it seemed to take a day or two. Then when interviewed the player revealed City had made first contact 4 months prior.
 
Trying to remember the player City signed a couple of summers ago. Based on the rumours it seemed to take a day or two. Then when interviewed the player revealed City had made first contact 4 months prior.

You don't have to look far. Real Madrid and De Gea. Hey look how quickly they snapped him up! Geez some guys really believe transfers happen the way it is on FM
 
Alves. He played everyone to suit himself. Also it didn't take 4 months to do the deal. It was said we've been talking to Torino and Darmian since 4 months ago. That doesn't mean we were in contact all the time. We might have just put the feelers out then waiting on the Alves situation. The deal itself would've taken a week or so to be done but with other suitors and Alves possibility we played the waiting game it seems.

Apologies Stretch, what with all the idiots on here your sensible post got lost in the midst.

@amolbhatia100 - you really need to grow up.

This site is full of media rumour, don't attack me for simply attempting to engage in a discussion about one rumour.

I can't say I know much about him but hopefully he's a good enough player to be a good back up for Valencia.

Same myself, Should be interesting to see what he can do. I had a good read over the Darmian thread, I think he'll do well if the reports are anything to go by and the Torino fans seem devastated to lose the guy.
 
Bags packed, ready to come. Might even be announced tonight if you impatient muppets are lucky.
 
Here we go...



EDIT: Darmian waiting for ok from Torino. Clubs to sign all paperwork tonight. Deal to be done by tomorrow.

As per someone translating on twatter
 
A forum with upwards of 6k members and we still dont have a member who has the juice in the footballing world, at least in the world of transfers....we need to do better guys.
 
Apologies Stretch, what with all the idiots on here your sensible post got lost in the midst.

@amolbhatia100 - you really need to grow up.

This site is full of media rumour, don't attack me for simply attempting to engage in a discussion about one rumour.



Same myself, Should be interesting to see what he can do. I had a good read over the Darmian thread, I think he'll do well if the reports are anything to go by and the Torino fans seem devastated to lose the guy.

No worries mate. These muppet sagas can get the best of us. Ask me and Vidal last year
 
Unless any of you can prove it didn't take 4 months, this is fair game for debate. They way you lot are posting you'd think United are transfer gods. Lads, reality check here, we are prone to error. Just like any club, we are not perfect. Please remove the red tinted goggles.

This is after all supposed to be an open forum, all any of us can do is highlight rumours within the media and post them here for discussion. Some are true, some are not. I post it because a number of outlets have said United officials have been in discussions with Darmian's representatives dating back 4 months.

Now excuse me for having a feckin opinion here folks, god forbid I had one.

Instead of the lot of you reacting so incredibly childishly, how about actually putting some intelligent reasoning together and engaging your brain and discussing something that could possibly be an issue?

The way some of you post on here you'd think United were never at fault with any transfer in recent years, when in fact United's transfer policy leaves a lot to be desired. We sometimes over pay when buying, we sell for less than we should really be getting and god knows we most definitely do delay and stall over transfers at various stages for a variety of different reasons. Perfect example, Morgan Schneiderlin, bid put in nearly 3 weeks ago and nothing since? Curious situation really. This seems to happen a lot with most players we enter into negotiations with.

We could do with a guy like you working with Woodward behind the scenes.
 
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