Mats Moller Deahli

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About your bizarre "Brits only" stance. This has to apply at all levels, right? I mean signing established foreign player blocks the development of young British players much more effectively than foreign kids, seeing as they definitely take up a place in the first team squad (as opposed to potentially, with additions to the academy)

This obviously means you wish the club had never signed cantona, ole, kanchelskis, ronaldo and nani. Bit of an odd thing for a United fan to be bothered about, don't you think?

You really know how to twist an opinion to suit your argument don't you? If you weren't so eager to dismiss and belittle any opinion that doesn't concur your own, I'd probably applaud you.

With all these foreign youths being brought in, they are in direct competition with our own trained talent to make a mark at the club. It's clearly going to mean some are going to fall by the wayside within our youth ranks.

Expensive, first team additions have the potential to block the progress of academy player's aswell, of course they do, but they are brought here without leaving another club under-compensated and at the mercy of national employment legislation, and crucially are brought here to make an impact immediately in the majority of cases which has much less of an effect of delaying/stopping the progress of our youngsters in their tracks when most of them are 4-5 seasons away from being ready to breakthrough. Bringing in player's at the same age and same stage of development poses a threat to our own boys prospects however.
 
You really know how to twist an opinion to suit your argument don't you? If you weren't so eager to dismiss and belittle any opinion that doesn't concur your own, I'd probably applaud you.

With all these foreign youths being brought in, they are in direct competition with our own trained talent to make a mark at the club. It's clearly going to mean some are going to fall by the wayside within our youth ranks.

Expensive, first team additions have the potential to block the progress of academy player's aswell, of course they do, but they are brought here without leaving another club under-compensated and at the mercy of national employment legislation, and crucially are brought here to make an impact immediately in the majority of cases which has much less of an effect of delaying/stopping the progress of our youngsters in their tracks when most of them are 4-5 seasons away from being ready to breakthrough. Bringing in player's at the same age and same stage of development poses a threat to our own boys prospects however.

I despise any kind of poaching at this level, but I think for United is a matter of necessity. While you argue that these foreign talents are not allowing home talents to evolve, it can also be argued that home talents simply aren't good enough because something is seriously wrong with formation at the earliest levels.

With the homegrown rule, clubs definitely need a decent chunk of players to have come from there, and the English ones not being good enough, you're forced to poach foreign ones. I'd love to see these practices banned, as again they just serve to make the strong increasingly stronger and tilt the competition even more in their favour than what it already is.

Thing is, from a business point of view, what you claim doesn't make sense. You're artificially lowering the quality requirements for a player to get into the first team. To reduce competitiveness at your academy to allow the English players to have more chances will probably lead to weaker squads in the future, so until this practice is banned United and other clubs will obviously keep on doing it.
 
You really know how to twist an opinion to suit your argument don't you? If you weren't so eager to dismiss and belittle any opinion that doesn't concur your own, I'd probably applaud you.

With all these foreign youths being brought in, they are in direct competition with our own trained talent to make a mark at the club. It's clearly going to mean some are going to fall by the wayside within our youth ranks.

Expensive, first team additions have the potential to block the progress of academy player's aswell, of course they do, but they are brought here without leaving another club under-compensated and at the mercy of national employment legislation, and crucially are brought here to make an impact immediately in the majority of cases which has much less of an effect of delaying/stopping the progress of our youngsters in their tracks when most of them are 4-5 seasons away from being ready to breakthrough. Bringing in player's at the same age and same stage of development poses a threat to our own boys prospects however.

Bringing in the most talented young prospects in Europe to train alongside local academy players will HARM the local academy members development (and hence, prospects) as professional footballers? WTF?

Let's file that at the bottom of the long list of amazingly flawed theories you've come up with in this thread, shall we?
 
Great signing. Have heard about him for some time now, people go mental about him. Cool fact that he was named man of a tournament despise norway lost all three matches and didnt go trough from the groupstage.
 
Bringing in the most talented young prospects in Europe to train alongside local academy players will HARM the local academy members development (and hence, prospects) as professional footballers? WTF?

Let's file that at the bottom of the long list of amazingly flawed theories you've come up with in this thread, shall we?

There's no point really.

If anything, bringing more talent in raises the overall standard of the youth players as a whole. You play better with better players around you, as simple as that. You get to learn more things and competition for places always helps. And those players that 'will fall by wayside' according to WR, will anyway do so. If they're good enough for a club of United's stature, then they should be able to deal with competition, because it will happen in the first team anyway.
 
Great signing. Have heard about him for some time now, people go mental about him. Cool fact that he was named man of a tournament despise norway lost all three matches and didnt go trough from the groupstage.

How can he be considered a great talent if there are no youtube compilations? :p
 
How can he be considered a great talent if there are no youtube compilations? :p

Because he is just 15 years old for God's sake. Not everyone who is 15 years has a youtube video. I don't know if you have read the articles on this guy. People in Norway are ravaging about this lad like he is the best. I hope all what they say turns out to be true. I m really looking forward to see how he turns out in like 3-4 years.
 
Because he is just 15 years old for God's sake. Not everyone who is 15 years has a youtube video. I don't know if you have read the articles on this guy. People in Norway are ravaging about this lad like he is the best. I hope all what they say turns out to be true. I m really looking forward to see how he turns out in like 3-4 years.

Humour or Irony seems to be lost on you
 
Because he is just 15 years old for God's sake. Not everyone who is 15 years has a youtube video. I don't know if you have read the articles on this guy. People in Norway are ravaging about this lad like he is the best. I hope all what they say turns out to be true. I m really looking forward to see how he turns out in like 3-4 years.

That's no argument, Rhain Davis was 9 and had a youtube compilation. This guy is way behind if you ask me, never going to make it.
 
EXCLUSIVE: New Manchester United Signing Mats Moller Daehli The Most Naturally Gifted Player To Emerge From Norway In A Generation - Top Scandinavian Scout - Goal.com

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New Manchester United signing Mats Moller Daehli is the most naturally gifted player to hail from Norway since Steffen Iversen, according to a leading European talent-spotter.

Daehli, 15, is finalising his switch to Old Trafford after agreeing terms on a deal which will see him link up with the club’s academy on February 1. As Goal.com UK revealed earlier this week, the midfielder is so highly rated by United that he has already been guaranteed a professional contract when he turns 17.

“In terms of overall potential, I’d say he’s probably the most naturally gifted player to emerge in Norway since Steffen Iversen, whose talent was regrettably hampered by injuries,” top Norwegian football analyst and consultant Tor-Kristian Karlsen told Goal.com UK.

“He’s certainly been outstanding at youth level and excelled both at national and international level. He’s been excellent even when playing against kids two or three years his senior.

“Above all his qualities, I’d say his ‘Mediterranean’ range of skills makes him special. He is a natural footballer. Everything he does on the pitch comes naturally to him, as if by instinct.

“This is very uncommon for Scandinavian footballers who are generally appreciated for their effort, physique and discipline. This kid is all about flair, skill, balance and a great natural footballing brain.”

Karlsen has personally scouted the teenager, who joined Premier League side Stabaek from FC Lyn six months ago.

“I have seen him play and filed reports on him, as I do with most other prospects from the Nordic countries,” explained the former Hannover, Bayer Leverkusen and Watford scout.

“But it dawned on me quite early that this kid was destined for Manchester United so I didn’t encourage any of the clubs I work with to spend too much time on this case. They’d only be wasting their time.

“Several European club tops were interested, more than those reported in the media [Bayern Munich, Ajax]. But as far as I understand, at a certain point the family decided to politely pay little attention to approaches from other suitors and focus on Manchester United.

“As far as I know he’s been a frequent visitor to the Manchester United Academy over the past year, so they would’ve known about him for quite a while.”

Karlsen is convinced that Daehli has the ability to make the leap from brilliant youth to United first-team regular.

“Without a doubt, there’s nothing stopping him in terms of God-given talent,” he explained. “But let’s not forget that we’re talking about a young boy, he might be looking at making his first team debut in three years’ time at the very earliest. A lot can obviously happen between now and then.

“Compared to other top 15-year-olds he’s of a relatively slight build. I’m not saying smallish players cannot make it all the way, there are plenty of examples of those who have, but there’s no denying that there’s currently a huge emphasis of physicality in the modern game.

“But when it comes to footballing brain, skill, range of passing, touch and movement he’s got all the fundamentals to become a top-class footballer.”

Norway was one of the most popular markets for Premier League clubs in the 1990s but the production line of the country that produced Iversen, Ole-Gunnar Solskjaer, Tore-Andre Flo, Ronnie Johnsen and Henning Berg has slowed down.

“Norway was an untapped market in the '90s, you could pick up a ready-made top league player for a pittance,” said Karlsen. “But as the clubs priced themselves out of the market, the Premier League clubs progressively got richer and started shopping in more high quality markets such as France, the Netherlands and continental Europe in general. Scandinavia became forgotten.

“Added to that, I don’t think Scandinavian clubs have been working well enough at youth level or even developed their top leagues enough to provide a platform fit to develop top players. Maybe the export riches and relative success in the '90s made them complacent.”
 
I feel like we have someone as good as Messi when I read reports on this lad! Makes me even more excited to see him in a couple of years time.
 
I feel like we have someone as good as Messi when I read reports on this lad! Makes me even more excited to see him in a couple of years time.

another reason to watch the academy side ;)
 
I feel like we have someone as good as Messi when I read reports on this lad! Makes me even more excited to see him in a couple of years time.

I think you're being overly pessimistic, I think this kid is more of a cross between Pele and Maradona than a Messi, though he's clearly more talented than any of the three individually. I reckon he'll be BPITW by mid 2011.
 
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