Matheus Cunha £62.5m release clause

As someone who hasn't watched all that much of him, how serious a prospect is he as a #9?

I get that #10 would be his best position for us. But would he fill in well enough at #9 to be a strong option there, or an emergency cover kind of option?
 
Can only see it happen if we can offload Rashford. Cunha would be a perfect fit here. Bruno's class whether he plays right 10 or left 10, so who really cares as long as we get some quality and creativity in.

Dream scenario for me would probably be Diogo Costa, Cunha and Gyökeres, but only 1 will probably happen.
 
As someone who hasn't watched all that much of him, how serious a prospect is he as a #9?

I get that #10 would be his best position for us. But would he fill in well enough at #9 to be a strong option there, or an emergency cover kind of option?
Emergency cover, sure, but he's the best pick for the Left AM position.

Can only see it happen if we can offload Rashford. Cunha would be a perfect fit here. Bruno's class whether he plays right 10 or left 10, so who really cares as long as we get some quality and creativity in.

Dream scenario for me would probably be Diogo Costa, Cunha and Gyökeres, but only 1 will probably happen.
Yeah, Sancho, Antony and Rashford need to leave for us to be able to afford both him and Gyokeres. Don't see us getting both otherwise.

For me the dream scenario would be getting Cunha, Gyokeres and Cherki. They'd be our front 3 with Amad playing RWB, and Bruno at CM with a defensively capable partner. Would be so good, on paper at least, to break down teams.
 
Can only see it happen if we can offload Rashford. Cunha would be a perfect fit here. Bruno's class whether he plays right 10 or left 10, so who really cares as long as we get some quality and creativity in.

Dream scenario for me would probably be Diogo Costa, Cunha and Gyökeres, but only 1 will probably happen.
How many years left does Costa have on his contract? Would he be affordable?
 
Everyone says Bruno is our best player. He's world class. We should never sell him. Then as soon as a shiny toy comes in we shove him either in midfield or right 10 where is less effective. Just because Bruno had a couple of decent games in midfield against weaker opposition does not make him a world class midfielder. He's a word class left 10, a good midfielder and a good right 10. Same as Garnacho who is a left 10 and Zirkzee who can play there and then everyone wants Mainoo as the 10.
So who are you selling and who are you fking up by playing them out of position? Might as well sell Bruno if we want to fk him up like we did with Mata, we did with Rashford as a striker and on and on
I think it depends on what kind of profile Amorim wants from each position.
You could argue bruno has had more good games in midfield for Amorim than he has at the 10. You could also that the reason Bruno is being played in midfield is because there no decent ball progressors there at the moment.
 
I think it depends on what kind of profile Amorim wants from each position.
You could argue bruno has had more good games in midfield for Amorim than he has at the 10. You could also that the reason Bruno is being played in midfield is because there no decent ball progressors there at the moment.
Its option b.
 
Everyone says Bruno is our best player. He's world class. We should never sell him. Then as soon as a shiny toy comes in we shove him either in midfield or right 10 where is less effective. Just because Bruno had a couple of decent games in midfield against weaker opposition does not make him a world class midfielder. He's a word class left 10, a good midfielder and a good right 10. Same as Garnacho who is a left 10 and Zirkzee who can play there and then everyone wants Mainoo as the 10.
So who are you selling and who are you fking up by playing them out of position? Might as well sell Bruno if we want to fk him up like we did with Mata, we did with Rashford as a striker and on and on
Saying Bruno isnt at a high level operating in the right half space is madness. He's been amazing there for us and Portugal many times. Ten Hag used him primarily from the right too. And anyway, Bruno likes to roam, and Bruno and Cunha can easily switch in game.
 
Got a trophy, nailed on to finish in CL spots and one of the most passionate fanbases around. If you are an overseas player like Cunha with no affiliation to either club and you are comparing us to them right now it is a no brainer to sign for the toon.

I think this summer is going to be a bit of a reality check for a lot of fans.

We may still have the famous name of a big club, but we just don't have the pull or the money to get the likes of an Osimhen or a Gyokeres.

Personally I'm actually looking forward to it. We've wasted so much money on players with either massive fees or wages, or both and it hasn't gotten us anywhere.

I'm intrigued to see what players actually end up here.

I think we are going to see more players like Dorgu and there will be a few players that we aren't even currently being linked with.
 
Transfermarkt has him at a whopping 1 red card in 264 senior club matches!
I think this needs pinning. I've seen a lot of comments regarding his temperament but Bruno has more red cards than Cunha has in his entire career. He gets a lot less yellow cards too
 
I think it depends on our outgoings. If we sold Garnacho, I think Cunha is a better fit to replace him but if we let Zirkzee go then Eze.

Is suspect Palace will be demanding a lot more than £60m for Eze though.

Personally I prefer the way Eze plays but I think with this team, we do need a bit more directness as I feel we only get that from Bruno and Garnacho and Cunha is much more likely to bring that I think.
Yeah good point
 
Saying Bruno isnt at a high level operating in the right half space is madness. He's been amazing there for us and Portugal many times. Ten Hag used him primarily from the right too. And anyway, Bruno likes to roam, and Bruno and Cunha can easily switch in game.
I never said he wasnt good at right 10. I said its not his optimal position. He is a better left 10 than a right 10. Thats just a fact. So why put your best player in his weaker position? And Amorims 10's are ery different to ETH's 10. He cant roam so much and needs to cover the right space
 
I never said he wasnt good at right 10. I said its not his optimal position. He is a better left 10 than a right 10. Thats just a fact. So why put your best player in his weaker position? And Amorims 10's are ery different to ETH's 10. He cant roam so much and needs to cover the right space
I want and I reckon Ruben wants 10s that can beat men. I think long term he sees Bruno as his progression midfielder.
 
Who is better fit out of him and Cunha?
I'd say Eze was more similar to Amad in style, but Amad is better. For that reason I prefer Cunha, you don't want too much of the same thing on either side. Cunha drifts inside and opens up space for our wing back. Amad tries to beat them on the byline and allows the RWB to invert. Isn't that how Sporting used to play under Amorim too?
 
I'd say Eze was more similar to Amad in style, but Amad is better. For that reason I prefer Cunha, you don't want too much of the same thing on either side. Cunha drifts inside and opens up space for our wing back. Amad tries to beat them on the byline and allows the RWB to invert. Isn't that how Sporting used to play under Amorim too?
Yeah I would prefer Cunha too
 
I never said he wasnt good at right 10. I said its not his optimal position. He is a better left 10 than a right 10. Thats just a fact. So why put your best player in his weaker position? And Amorims 10's are ery different to ETH's 10. He cant roam so much and needs to cover the right space
Today showed why this is absolute bs
 
Last nights game very clearly showed why a signing like Cunha or Cherki is a must this summer. We have so few players that can dribble the ball forwards and take on players. When Garnacho came off we looked totally impotent (until big Arry was thrown up front) By contras as soon as Lyon brought on Fofana and had two outlets, they obtained the upper hand.
 
Today showed why this is absolute bs
One game against Lyon. Case closed, your honor. Give me a break. If he is so much better on the right then why has he been playing left 10 all his career. Rashford had good games as striker. Mata had good games at RW. Heck Maguire just had a blinder as a 9. Doesnt make that their best position
 
As someone who hasn't watched all that much of him, how serious a prospect is he as a #9?

I get that #10 would be his best position for us. But would he fill in well enough at #9 to be a strong option there, or an emergency cover kind of option?
He didn’t score enough goals when he played as no 9 at Atletico Madrid and his first season at Wolves. He also cover the no 9 role this season when wolves striker was injured and he still managed to score.

He reminds me of Martial as a no 9, except I think he has better work rate off the ball than Martial. The aspects he reminds of martial are he’s very good as ball carrier, very good dribbler, has flair, very good in tight spaces and knows how to protect the ball.

Overall, he wasn’t clinical as no 9 and the role that makes him really good right now is the L10. Despite of these, Cunha is still considered far better no 9 than Hojlund. My opinion is that to challenge for top 4 as a no 9 he would be just fine for us. I think if we fail to sell Hojlund or Zirkzee, we can only sign 1 attacker, then Cunha would be the ideal signing.
 
One game against Lyon. Case closed, your honor. Give me a break. If he is so much better on the right then why has he been playing left 10 all his career. Rashford had good games as striker. Mata had good games at RW. Heck Maguire just had a blinder as a 9. Doesnt make that their best position
Are you on about Bruno? If so what you on about playing left 10 most of his career? We have literally only played with two tens for about half a season. He is normally an attacking midifielder with two behind him.

People get obsessed about creating new positions and titles
 
Are you on about Bruno? If so what you on about playing left 10 most of his career? We have literally only played with two tens for about half a season. He is normally an attacking midifielder with two behind him.

People get obsessed about creating new positions and titles
You should be able to tell just by watching games, but go see a heatmap of Bruno. Yes he is all over the pitch and yes on the right side as well. But he does his majority of his work on the left channel. Were people being obsessed about new positions and roles when Rashford was playing striker? Are people being obsessed when they say some of the players dont fit Amorim's system? Or should you play your best players in their best position the majority of the time?
 
For £62m no thanks. We should sign Osimjen or Gyokeres for that money and get a younger no.10 instead.
 
He didn’t score enough goals when he played as no 9 at Atletico Madrid and his first season at Wolves. He also cover the no 9 role this season when wolves striker was injured and he still managed to score.

He reminds me of Martial as a no 9, except I think he has better work rate off the ball than Martial. The aspects he reminds of martial are he’s very good as ball carrier, very good dribbler, has flair, very good in tight spaces and knows how to protect the ball.

Overall, he wasn’t clinical as no 9 and the role that makes him really good right now is the L10. Despite of these, Cunha is still considered far better no 9 than Hojlund. My opinion is that to challenge for top 4 as a no 9 he would be just fine for us. I think if we fail to sell Hojlund or Zirkzee, we can only sign 1 attacker, then Cunha would be the ideal signing.
Yeah feel he would be an useful signing as works best as a left sided 10, however could also cover for main striker down the middle when it's required
 
Do you take Cherki or Cunha over Garnacho? If yes, which one is you prefer between Cherki and Cunha?

Do you also sell Mainoo and replace him with a speedy AM?
 
Cherki for £20m over Cunha at £60m seems a no brainer. Especially when Cunha seems to be an absolute nutjob. That extra £40m to spend could be the difference between a decent and a top striker.
 
Cherki for £20m over Cunha at £60m seems a no brainer. Especially when Cunha seems to be an absolute nutjob. That extra £40m to spend could be the difference between a decent and a top striker.
Cherki is not happening at £20m

Damn the reports about his fee last summer, his stock has definitely risen. I'd imagine he'd cost closer to £45m

Ceiling is higher though, so even then he's better value for money.
 
With Rashford and Antony money, we can get both Cherki and Cunha without selling Garnacho and Mainoo.
 
Cherki is not happening at £20m

Damn the reports about his fee last summer, his stock has definitely risen. I'd imagine he'd cost closer to £45m

Ceiling is higher though, so even then he's better value for money.

Ah fair enough - I thought it was a clause or at least a gentleman’s agreement he had at that price.
 
Can't see it with him, he's not a 60M player. On the both legs against us hasn't been even slightly impressed by him.
 
I think we just need to accept he isn't available for 20m lads

release clauses are not even legal in france and if he was available for that much there'd be a long list of clubs queued up to sign him and offer him huge wages as an incentive anyway

edit: thought I was in the cherki thread sorry
 
60m is too much for a player who has character problems and has had an inconsistent career. He just smells like a player who'd turn shite the moment he wears our jersey. I would rather get Cherki or any other younger no.10 and get a proper CF (or even two) because there we have a huge problem.
 
He wasnt great, but he was miles better in the 2nd half and won a freekick turning Fredricson and with Lindelof panicing. Wolves scored the freekick. He also had a nice pass out onto the right that came to nothing
 
Won a free kick but didnt really trouble our second string backline all day. Not sure he’s worth that amount.