Matheus Cunha £62.5m release clause

I can’t get out of my head how awful his finishing was at AM. Meme level. Was still a great ball carrier though.
 
Has he done this in his previous clubs or wolves are the only club that he acts he’s bigger than wolves?

I view it differently than what people are thinking. I like the fact that he’s basically being straight forward that he wants to leave wolves because he doesn’t think wolves is good enough for him. It will help to accelerate the transfer process. Social media can still be easily controlled, managed, and also taught how to use it. I’m not too concerned.

Last summer, he said it’s a real honour to be link to Manchester United. Follow your dream Cunha. :devil:

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I don't remember exactly but I think he has had character issues at his old clubs as well, specially when it comes to transfers.
 
I amconcerned by Twitter posts saying that he doesn't track back/press that much at Wolves, is it true? if so, will we just have a Rashford #2? can we have a player who has BOTH intensity and products?
 
I amconcerned by Twitter posts saying that he doesn't track back/press that much at Wolves, is it true? if so, will we just have a Rashford #2? can we have a player who has BOTH intensity and products?
His defensive numbers are much better than Rashford's, and I remember his pressing stats being great at Atletico Madrid when they were available before at fbref.
 
I’d far rather Cunha than Eze. I don’t really see it with Eze.
 
Worth noting that he is the PL player who has overperformed his xG by the most this season.

Which combined his his much more average "finishing" in his career up to this point suggests he's currently benefitting from a hot streak in front of goal he won't sustain long term.
 
Just being talented hasn't been enough with a lot of the new arrivals over the last few seasons...but maybe the team needs a bit of an arrogant cnut to bring that x factor?

I've not watched Cunha close enough to comment on his talent overall, but I wouldn't be concerned too much about his attitude if it can be channelled in the right way.
 
I can’t get out of my head how awful his finishing was at AM. Meme level. Was still a great ball carrier though.
Absolutely. I still remember watching him at Atlético - he was erratic in front of goal and didn’t quite convince as a finisher. But to be fair, he’s never really been a natural striker. Wolves seem to have cracked the code by using him more as a ball-carrier and creative spark rather than an out-and-out finisher.

That said, we seriously need more clinical attackers if we’re going to climb back to the top. Flair’s great and all, but it’s the ruthless finishers who actually win you games.
 
Worth noting that he is the PL player who has overperformed his xG by the most this season.

Which combined his his much more average "finishing" in his career up to this point suggests he's currently benefitting from a hot streak in front of goal he won't sustain long term.

True. But his npxg+xag since 2023 (beginning of last season) is 0,50. Higher than the average of Rashford since 2017and quite close to Bruno Fernandes average since he arrived while Cunha has been playing for a side fighting against relegation.
 
Absolutely. I still remember watching him at Atlético - he was erratic in front of goal and didn’t quite convince as a finisher. But to be fair, he’s never really been a natural striker. Wolves seem to have cracked the code by using him more as a ball-carrier and creative spark rather than an out-and-out finisher.

That said, we seriously need more clinical attackers if we’re going to climb back to the top. Flair’s great and all, but it’s the ruthless finishers who actually win you games.
I think it’s fair to say that 2025 version of Cunha is most definitely a ruthless finisher
 
Worth noting that he is the PL player who has overperformed his xG by the most this season.

Which combined his his much more average "finishing" in his career up to this point suggests he's currently benefitting from a hot streak in front of goal he won't sustain long term.
Yeah. I think Cunha screams as a purchase we're likely to regret.

Will be 26 by summer (meaning likely starting to decline by the middle of his next contract, and little re-sale value by age 29-30), hot-headed, walks the most of any player in the Prem, vastly overperforming his xG, expensive release clause.... What could go wrong??

It's a classic United purchase really. £60M fee and £200k+ a week in wages for a guy we probably don't even want in 3-4 years.
 
Worth noting that he is the PL player who has overperformed his xG by the most this season.

Which combined his his much more average "finishing" in his career up to this point suggests he's currently benefitting from a hot streak in front of goal he won't sustain long term.

My question is how long does he need to overperform, or continue to do the same as he is currently before its considered not a hot streak?

He's 25 now and 26 at the end of the season. If he does the same thing next season and he's now 27 in the summer, is that a good time to sign him?
 
Yeah. I think Cunha screams as a purchase we're likely to regret.

Will be 26 by summer (meaning likely starting to decline by the middle of his next contract, and little re-sale value by age 29-30), hot-headed, walks the most of any player in the Prem, vastly overperforming his xG, expensive release clause.... What could go wrong??

It's a classic United purchase really. £60M fee and £200k+ a week in wages for a guy we probably don't even want in 3-4 years.

Resale value will be irrelevant here. We need goals now and if we don't get them next year, the resale value of a given player in 5 years will be the least of our troubles. If we don't want to be marginalized into irrelevance, we have to start winning games by scoring goals immediately.
 
True. But his npxg+xag since 2023 (beginning of last season) is 0,50. Higher than the average of Rashford since 2017and quite close to Bruno Fernandes average since he arrived while Cunha has been playing for a side fighting against relegation.
I remember the good old days, when people used to talk about football ;)
 
Yeah. I think Cunha screams as a purchase we're likely to regret.

Will be 26 by summer (meaning likely starting to decline by the middle of his next contract, and little re-sale value by age 29-30), hot-headed, walks the most of any player in the Prem, vastly overperforming his xG, expensive release clause.... What could go wrong??

It's a classic United purchase really. £60M fee and £200k+ a week in wages for a guy we probably don't even want in 3-4 years.
Re-sale value is only for a player that we expect not to be main starting XI player for example someone like Heaven. The moment we spend more than 40m, the chance of re-sale value is slim.

26 is a perfect age if we want to sign someone who we expect to get into the starting XI. Not too raw or too young for us to wait until they develop and learn but also not too old or declining.

In addition, he has adapted to play in PL tempo and play in L10 role in the same Amorim’s system. Cunha would be the kind of signing that makes sense because he fits the system, has the profile to play in PL, and we need to upgrade the L10.
 
Professional walker who doesn't bother defending has just scored from tackling the Spurs DM, sprinting past another player and finishing.
 
Professional walker who doesn't bother defending has just scored from tackling the Spurs DM, sprinting past another player and finishing.
Without that random stat, there would be no one talking about his work rate as anything other than very good.
 
Without that random stat, there would be no one talking about his work rate as anything other than very good.
Yeah, it's mental how one tweet can apparently completely change the perception of a player.
 
Professional walker who doesn't bother defending has just scored from tackling the Spurs DM, sprinting past another player and finishing.
It’s an interesting narrative the stat created. Mentioned earlier in the thread that Cunhas work rate was always mentioned as his strength before that stat ever came up
 
A good player, but don’t think he’s worth the amount of money they’re asking. And that’s before attitude is considered.
 
It’s an interesting narrative the stat created. Mentioned earlier in the thread that Cunhas work rate was always mentioned as his strength before that stat ever came up
It's absolutely meaningless as well. Who on earth wants their striker to be jogging around at half pace all game? You want them to sprint, recover, sprint, recover etc...
 
A good player, but don’t think he’s worth the amount of money they’re asking. And that’s before attitude is considered.

I'd say he's priced appropriately. 15 goals in consecutive years on a Prem side for a player with a bulk of his career still ahead of him, is going attract a sizable transfer fees.
 
It’s an interesting narrative the stat created. Mentioned earlier in the thread that Cunhas work rate was always mentioned as his strength before that stat ever came up
Yeah, honestly can’t claim to watch him enough but the perception I’ve always had of him (& the odd matches I did watch him) - has always been that his workrate was pretty decent (& not of any concern to me when we were linked). Then I saw that stat and had to ask myself if I’ve just not seen watched him enough and if he’s a lazy player etc.
 
Can't say Newcastle have better players technically than United, issue is they're better athletes and stronger, and Cunha fits the profile we need, or we aren't going anywhere.

Players like Eriksen in our squad you'd hardly say is an athlete I'd say the same with Mainoo and some of the others

Massive rebuild ahead