I never wanted him and I don't think he's what we need. But trash? Come on.
Mason Mount's Many Misfortunes
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I never wanted him and I don't think he's what we need. But trash? Come on.
I’ve watched Mason Mount play 36 times for England & plenty of times for Chelsea. I didn’t need this season to know he wasn’t a particularly good player and was going to be a god awful signing for £60 million. The injuries have just been the icing on this particular shit sandwich.
He is bad now for 2-3 years, not overnight.
He had a purple patch, this is his level.
I never wanted us to sign him in the first place and I'm not basing that just off his performance tonight, he was terrible for England in the WC and had everyone calling for him to be dropped for Bellingham.
No, he's a good player that will do well in a good tactical system, good environment, and good teammates around him. Never judge any player on a nightmare season like this. The first sentence is true for a lot of our players as well, by the way. This squad is far from awful.
International football doesn't mean much either IMO.
CL, PL winner to this trash
Do we get more money from the transfer if he scoops United's player of the season award?
He's always been a nothing player, unfoturnately he fits right in with Ten Haag because pretty much all his other signings have been useless too.
And no, let's put to bed this idea he'll be good in the right system. Good players like Bruno are good wherever. He's good if you want lots of running and passing to the person next to him. Other than that? Nothing. He's not going to get as many asissts as he did for Chelsea as most of them were from corners. He's not going to get as many goals either as he played in a front 3 back then. So what does that leave? Nothing.
And no, let's put to bed this idea he'll be good in the right system. Good players like Bruno are good wherever. He's good if you want lots of running and passing to the person next to him. Other than that? Nothing. He's not going to get as many asissts as he did for Chelsea as most of them were from corners. He's not going to get as many goals either as he played in a front 3 back then. So what does that leave? Nothing.
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A good player whose last good season was what, when Chelsea won the CL? 3 years ago? 2 years ago if we’re being kind? Truth is he’s a decent hardworking squad player who had one standout season and has mostly been average before and since. He’ll follow instructions and work hard but his talent is limited. He’s the Chelsea version of Lingard and we dropped £60 mil on him like complete idiots.
All of us saw this coming. He didn't look anything special at Chelsea and we didn't have a place in our team for him. It's mental that we gave Chelsea 60 million.
Bang on
Won’t cost 60, 60 includes crazy bonuses like winning the league. It’ll be 55, which is still way too much.
He was brought in to lead the press, that's why Klopp and Arteta were after him too, he'd have been much better off going to one of those teams as they both have a coherent pressing approach with players willing and capable.
Sue the bald liar for the transfer fee.
Absolutely spot on. He is a grafter but is a bang average player otherwise. He runs around like a headless chicken a lot, but he is never more than a bench player for a team who want to be challenging the best teams.
He was good in 2021/22 as well, which was Tuchel's only full season at Chelsea after the CL winning one. After that, Chelsea 22/23 and United 23/24 followed, both environments where 99% of footballers cannot show their true worth.
If we become a good team and Mount isn't doing well, I'll gladly admit I was wrong.
@Rojofiam tell him how wrong he is, like you have with everyone else and it's definitely not you who is wrong.
Let’s at least be fair, it’s close to impossible to shine in this degree of dog poo, it’s actually absolutely outstanding that Bruno sometimes manages to lift his head above the mountain of shite.
And some braindead posters want to replace Bruno with him 
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.fecking shite.
We should try and get a refund, go full Karen mode and speak ask for the manager.
We should try and get a refund, go full Karen mode and speak ask for the manager.
Crap
That has honestly always been the issue with Mount: mgrs have tried him at RW, AM, deeper as an 8 … he lacks something for each of those.
Grinning away for the camera seconds before kick off
He would be doing very well for those teams, and the narrative on here would be how we "missed out" on Mount
Same if we had got another keeper instead of Onana, or let Hojlund go to PSG.
People can't understand that the tactical system and overall environment is by far the most important thing for a player.
Do they seriously think the likes of Bellingham, Vinícius, Foden, Haaland, Wirtz, etc. (most of the Ballon d'Or contenders) would look anything more than half-decent players at best in this United side? Such an easy and obvious concept but I guess it's better to moan about nonexistent issues.
Lots of people questioned this decision - particularly when it was to be the no.8 (and on a large fee rather than free as a squad option), and when it was clear we were letting Fred go and needed a dynamic combative no.8 who could also progress play, and ideally fill in as 6 when Casemiro or whoever went forward or needed to be dropped - but were told they weren't sophisticated enough to appreciate what Ten Hag was trying to do... Clear he does have a plan (of sorts) and that it's absolutely nonsensical in this league with anything resembling this set of players, even if he changes the profiles of 1 or 2. Even with that plan in mind, bringing in Mount of all people to play in the centre, in the PL of all places, when our CM gets so little help from other quarters normally, especially if 1st choice B and Shaw are not available, is...crazy.
What a waste of money Holy shit
The first 20 minutes or so he played really well I thought.
It's definitely not me who's wrong but I'm not wasting my energy for no reason. I'll just quote back your bad takes when Mount comes good for us
It's so weird. He's obviously good at something, he is a premiership player who has played for England loads...and yet, what is he? What does he do? Why did Chelsea sell him to us too?
I don't know. He certainly wasn't what United needed at the time, nor needs now for that money. It's baffling to me and likely always will be.
Was crap at Chelsea, is crap here.
Every fan on the planet knew he was not needed yet our master tactician had something up his sleeve. Turns out it was just his fecking sleeve after all.
What a clusterfeck of a signing at 50m when our team is severely lacking in every other department. There is a massive money laundering scheme going on im 100% sure. Ineos should investigate if they’re not part of it themselves.
What a clusterfeck of a signing at 50m when our team is severely lacking in every other department. There is a massive money laundering scheme going on im 100% sure. Ineos should investigate if they’re not part of it themselves.
He's a nothing player.
I think a lot of folks on here don't understand the scope of the rot that's set in throughout every department in the club. Just look at how often the idea of throwing a new manager, or a youth team player, etc at one of our problems is thrown around under the expectation that it'll fix things.
Mount would look good in a well drilled pressing team with able and willing teammates, he's one of the best off-the-ball players around. Unfortunately to look good at United at the moment players need to be able to make things happen out of nothing, which isn't Mount's game at all.
People haven't learned after seeing the same players perform very well in 20/21 and 22/23, whilst looking like a shadow of themselves in 21/22 and 23/24.
Or in Mount's case, they wonder how he's not been able to maximize his talent in last season's Chelsea and this season's United.
3 good seasons at Chelsea is a "purple patch", whilst two subpar seasons in bad environments is "his true level"Not to mention that from the limited amount of playtime he's had this season, he's looked good in several games.
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Possibly more invisible than Tom Cleverly.
Obviously has had no run of games at United really, still cannot understand how we ended up signing him.
I agree.
Also, just take a look at the 2021/22 season. Not one of our players had a good season. Some will try to argue Ronaldo but the reality is that he wasn't willing to do the bare minimum out of possession and also made other attackers play worse than without him before.
Just the season before that, that same team came 2nd in the league that would've been an 80+ points finish had there been something to play for after matchday 34, and was unfortunate not to win the Europa League. The football was also the most enjoyable post-Ferguson and we would regularly score 4-5, or more goals in a game, and we would always win away from home, even coming back from behind several times. 12 months later, we finished on 58 points at 6th and lost out to a very mediocre Atletico side in the CL whilst all of our players had a nightmare season.
We have at least 10 good players who would be on a completely different level if you sent them to the current City or Arsenal side. Mount is most certainly one of them. We have a good foundation to build on and this moaning about Mount, Onana, Hojlund, etc. is completely unnecessary, because the problem doesn't exist.
Baffling signing.
From the tiny amount of times we got him and Bruno together it never looked like it'd work either.
No doubt this is where we start saying he "needs certain players around him" or "needs a functioning system under a new manager".
We've been here before haven't we.
From the tiny amount of times we got him and Bruno together it never looked like it'd work either.
No doubt this is where we start saying he "needs certain players around him" or "needs a functioning system under a new manager".
We've been here before haven't we.
Looked decent for about 15 minutes
I'll just put this here, a post when we bought him.