Wow, I am sure we can make similar videos of even Casemiro or Bruno like this.
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Wow, I am sure we can make similar videos of even Casemiro or Bruno like this.
Yep, I think that's more or less the gist of the team.
If there was to be another signing for the first eleven outside those positions already strengthend, I'd like to see the right hand side of the back four improved as Martinez/Shaw is quite a bit stronger in possession than Varane/Dalot.
Have we signed anyone yet?
That's a very good team. The biggest reasons for our build up issues was de Gea being useless on the ball (and would be replaced by one of the best around with the ball at his feet) and no striker who can actually hold the ball up or compete for long balls (which would be addressed). So the build up play issues are entirely addressed. It would be a more counter pressing team rather than a Pep type slow and controlled team, but it gives us good deep build up, and great off the ball play. But a bit hectic in creating chances and going through midfield. Which is fine, definitely a team that can be successful, but takes time (and other pieces to be THE BEST, but being a top 5-8 club in europe is the first step towards that).
Not really...
We seem to be spending all of our time and effort on Mount as our primary target, as if he's going to suddenly make us into title contenders or something?
I'd rather us spend a bit more on an actual beast - or spend less on someone who we can develop into a beast...that needs to be the mindset, not overpaying for players Chelsea don't even want.
If we don't sign players who can play the system our coach wants them no one player is going to make us into title contenders.
Agree with this, especially about counter pressing. Think the idea would be to win the ball high and take advantage quickly.
If we improve our bid, then everyone will know that our stance of moving away from a target is just a hoax and we will pay more if they continue to negotiate.
Any increase is beyond stupidity. 55m is good enough to make this deal. If not then tough luck and move on.
Any increase is beyond stupidity. 55m is good enough to make this deal. If not then tough luck and move on.
Can’t get excited about this. He’s an average player isn’t he.
I’m getting deeply worried about our ineptitude in the transfer market again.
Rice going to Arsenal, Caicedo going to Chelsea and our number one target is someone who couldn’t get into Chelsea’s shambles of a team last year and has barely been considered by Southgate.
I’m getting deeply worried about our ineptitude in the transfer market again.
Rice going to Arsenal, Caicedo going to Chelsea and our number one target is someone who couldn’t get into Chelsea’s shambles of a team last year and has barely been considered by Southgate.
So we are improving on our “walk away” offer.
Joke of a club. I hope the new owners sack every single person in charge of player recruitment/contract negotiations.
What a surprise. It was all a bluff 
It's one thing for Chelsea to offload shite to Saudi but getting 120m for these two no-mark players is just insane. At least Havertz has more than a year on his contract.
It's one thing for Chelsea to offload shite to Saudi but getting 120m for these two no-mark players is just insane. At least Havertz has more than a year on his contract.
What a surprise. And we weren't really strongly linked to any other midfielders either.
Yup. Think klopps sides before they signed Thiago is the closest comparison to what ten hag will aim for for this first step.
The offer improvement will be on the structure of the 50+5 deal. Wheeler and Kajumba's article stated that the changes will be to the fringes of the deal. Don't expect United to improve the overall package.
£58M no add ons
Those two also think we are seriously interested in Caicedo so wouldn't take their word. Not against Mount like many of the fanbase but feel Caicedo fits what we actually need
Probably end up paying more sooner than originally planned with roughly the same fee. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of these ‘bid rejected’ stories are merely a case of two clubs hashing out when instalments get paid, especially in these FFP hoopjumping days.
No wonder a certain other team seem to get things done really fast as they disregard certain rules
No wonder a certain other team seem to get things done really fast as they disregard certain rules
Probably end up paying more sooner than originally planned with roughly the same fee. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of these ‘bid rejected’ stories are merely a case of two clubs hashing out when instalments get paid, especially in these FFP hoopjumping days.
No wonder a certain other team seem to get things done really fast as they disregard FFP
I just pray this isn't our only midfield signing because that will leave us reliant on Casa
Ten Hag needs to be stopped. Let him coach and leave it at that. Mount is good but not good enough. And frankly not cheap enough to warrant this aggressive pursuit. He’s not a world beater, he’s not amongst the best few in the league and probably doesn’t have that in him.
This manager seems to have a fixation on anyone he’s seen play in Holland once before. Mason Mount, Taylor fecking Booth. Does he need to be reminded that the job is to get us back to being the very best. Mount for some depth, absolutely. But for £60m we should be going for a genuine budding superstar like Szoboszlai, who has KDB potential.
This manager seems to have a fixation on anyone he’s seen play in Holland once before. Mason Mount, Taylor fecking Booth. Does he need to be reminded that the job is to get us back to being the very best. Mount for some depth, absolutely. But for £60m we should be going for a genuine budding superstar like Szoboszlai, who has KDB potential.
No should be Caicedo but like you say Erik's unhealthy obsession with Dutch connected players is becoming an issue
so not ready yet. Makes sense considering we want trophies next year.
Similar amount on Hojland and people will be up in arms because he’s not proven
Caicedo is nothing like Mount. If he wants Mount, he should go after Szoboszlai instead. One of the other top clubs in the PL will definitely get him within the next 12 months.
Yep said this months ago and got flamed here.
Meanwhile we are funding Chelsea so they can field a fecking Enzo- Caicedo pivot which rivals the best in the world. But hey, ETH wants Mount so we should just blindly agree and buy him guys!
Yes he is. Not ‘proven’ yet, simply because he is a young player in Germany. However, he’s nothing like Hoijland. He’s been in the Bundesliga for like 3 seasons.
Nah DS didn't play in the Eredivisie, Ten Hag has never heard of him.
Look I agree with your general point but you can’t just ignore all the reports of our financial situation. It’s all good saying we need to sign Caicedo or Szbozlai or Harry Kane but we’ve barely got a pot to piss in
Mount was a great player before this season, I mean he won the CL with Chelsea he’s not some twob bit nobody and has qualities the manager likes and wants. Most importantly, considering our financial outlook, he represents a cheap deal because we will most likely only pay Chelsea like 20mill this summer due to the fact he only has a year left on his contract and he wants to come to us it encourages Chelsea to part with him for a relatively decent deal that benefits us and our financial situation instead of paying the whole thing in one go.
Wish we could just trade Maguire and martial for him.
Getting fleeced paying a penny more than £40 million Maddison. Hope we go for someone else
Yeh we are definitely going to give up our forward and keeper sighing for Caicedo, because of budget and FFP limit.I knew they’d cave. It would amazing if we could sign Mount from them and then immediately hijack their deal for Caicedo.
Fecks me off beyond belief we have to make sacrifices due to the damn budget
Depends if the glazers feck off soon but ya it’s not looking good
I think this deal will get done soon , it feels an underwhelming signing but you have to trust the manager if he wants him.
Pretty sure we won’t be allowed to amortise his contract over more than 5 years, so the loophole has closed. I’m guessing for FFP purposes the last 3 years of that contract will have £0 hit on the books.
You're underrating Mount IMO, though agree on the Szoboszlai shout, he's class. Not sure on KdV potential though... And maybe he just sees more capabilities of playing deeper for Mount than for Szoboszlai. Or they just never heard of him, either way
Ffs he was Potter's 4th most used player, and then got injured.
Some just love to reveal just how much their opinion of players is formed by whatever shite they read online.
But we could be persuaded to go to £60M if they say no to 58.
Honestly I’d tell Chelsea £40M with a 5M add on for every treble we win with him in the 1st team. Or, they can go feck off.
For any player to become world class, they need the right context. The right coach and team mates. KDB, Salah, etc. All mediocre till they played to their strengths in a team that needed their skill set and had the right players around them to receive their pass or make the run, cover, tackle. As for Mount, you simply can't judge any Chelsea player on merit from last season because they couldn't play as a team; the context was all wrong. Reciprocally, Declan Rice is criticised as not being worth 100m, but that's because he's being coached by David Moyes in a mediocre team. Under a better coach, in the right system, he's going to fukn kill it, no question. Like that, Mount will shine for us. He'll drag defenders out of position, make space, make it easy for a proper 9 to flourish outside the box. He's good on and off the ball, he's sharp defensively and he's consistent like a more reliable and technically superior Fred.
We're quibbling with Chelsea over small change at this stage. We should just agree to sign him and be done. If we keep fecking around like this we won't get a striker or a keeper, especially if we're relying on sales.
We're quibbling with Chelsea over small change at this stage. We should just agree to sign him and be done. If we keep fecking around like this we won't get a striker or a keeper, especially if we're relying on sales.
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