They signed that lad from Villareal on an 8 year contract recently
https://amp.theguardian.com/footbal...of-villarreal-striker-nicolas-jackson-for-32m
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https://amp.theguardian.com/footbal...of-villarreal-striker-nicolas-jackson-for-32m
Chelsea will do the deal cos they need the money for Caicedo
That new rule is very recent and does not apply to contracts already signed
Sad news. Really hoped the transfer was off.
I knew they’d cave. It would amazing if we could sign Mount from them and then immediately hijack their deal for Caicedo. 
The club should do like they did with De Gea and offer less now with Chelsea keen on the deal.
Will be a good signing if we can agree a deal with Chelsea. But we still need to improve our build up phase by signing a GK and midfielder. Our biggest issue last season was our away form and ten Hag mentioned the reason for that being because we struggled in the build up. A teams forward players are only as good as the stability provided in possession by the players occupying positions in deeper areas of the pitch. So I'm hoping there will be a plan to create and develop that stability which was missing last season in possession against high pressing teams.
Below is a good thread on Mason Mount for anyone interested.
Below is a good thread on Mason Mount for anyone interested.
Cannot believe we are going with mount and letting Chelsea get Caicedo. Actually I can believe it. We have been shooting ourselves in the foot for the past 18 years.
I don't watch Mount enough to judge, but imagine a similar 'lowlight' reel from just this season for Bruno. It'd be miserable viewing.
You can make videos like those for most players. But unlike most players, they don't have some of the best managers in Europe wanting to sign them at 24 years of age.
Low light videos are useless. If you want to analyze what a player could bring, you look at his "high lights" and then analytics over the years in various positions, look at where/how he played best and how we could make the most out of him and how Ten Hag would use him realistically. And in mounts case... It says a very good player, albeit one who was used mostly in a Bruno role. So the question is how they'll be used, and if one or the other adapts well to the slightly deeper role.
There's people trying to make it out like last season was a blip because everyone at Chelsea was shit.
The second video was made in 2021! I can already see a Lingard scenario in 2 years time.
The 2021/22 season which most people are looking at judging him he was literally stat padding against bottom 5 teams - 9 out of 11 goals.
Yeah. We really need that hub/bridging player. I thought Rabiot was on the bag, as he'd fit in nicely there.
Such a shame that non of our wide players are creative. And now ETH has to compensate with adding Mount for that, and reducing that build up phase. A ball playing Gk will help, but then most of the action is progressing on the playing field.
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He's a good player mate. Just give him a chance and he may surprise you.
Nah we only started talking about Caicedo to put pressure on them to sell us Mount for a few million less. We’re funding their Caicedo purchase. It’s clear as day.I knew they’d cave. It would amazing if we could sign Mount from them and then immediately hijack their deal for Caicedo.
Aye, most likely. Would be hilarious though while transforming our midfield in the process.
Agreed 100% mate.
Erik ten Hag went on record and said that our biggest issue last season was in the build up phase. And a new GK will definitely help in that regard. But we absolute should bring in a midfielder who is strong in possession against teams who press us high.
It depends on the money and things are not looking great under the present owners. But under new owners we should be looking to sign both Caicedo and Mount. And also sign a RB and striker. And that's the bare minimum we should be doing in this window but unfortunately can't.
A lot of people raving about Rice to Arsenal but in my mind Mount at 55 million represents considerably better value. I know they're not similar players, before someone mentions that. The point I'm making is that I really don't see why Rice to Arsenal is seen as a better deal.
There are loads of stats that you can use that are not looking at goals or assists. And he showed up very well in them. As they look at every single minute he played and his impact throughout every game, compared to every player.r
Mad that our recruitment team/scouts after a year with ETH have this guy at the top of the list for transfers.
Underwhelming at best.
Underwhelming at best.
Think Rice is a far better player, better leader and has potential to be an elite player for a good 8 years.
We will have to upgrade on Mount again pretty soon.
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This is our prospective team next season :
----------------Onana
-------Varane------Martinez
Dalot------Casemiro------Shaw
------- Bruno--------Mount
Antony----Hojlund-----Rashford
I dont see where a new midfielder fits it. I saw us being linked to Carlos Baleba, who is a 21yr old young #6. Maybe we go for someone like that as a backup to Casemiro, and maybe another backup CB like Todibo/Disasi, but I dont see anymore first team signings. So the problems with the buildup play remains.
I think he'll have some moments where his vision and guile are questioned, I've always seen him as a very instinct player. That can be very effective in a good system. He won't be the star, but he should raise our overall level and deepen the quality of attacking options.
I'm positive on this transfer, because Ten Hag has made him first choice, but there's a healthy dose of scepticism from myself. He'll also need to improve, but what 24 year old is done learning?
Arsenal got rinsed for the Rice deal. Maddison to Spurs for 40m is the better deal.
I think you've got the right idea. The 6s we've monitored appear to be 21 or younger. If we didn't get Mount, that could switch to big money DM and a young rotational option in Mount's position, with Casemiro filling in there too.
This mindset is ridiculous
Say they signed an unknown you’d complain that he’s not ready and no one knows who he is.
You could say the same if we went for Caicedo (we seemingly are but still)
I don't think Bruno is the correct fit centrally because if the aim is to play in the opponent's half via a high defensive line, then the two advanced #8s can't afford to get bypassed when applying the press. And I don't believe Bruno has the athletic capabilities neither the discipline to stop a press resistant opponent. And if your press is weak centrally then the central half spaces will be exposed. And in that scenario playing in a high defensive line will become problematic imo. Bruno has been afforded a lot of freedom in a deeper defensive line but in a high-line setup he's best utilised as a wide playmaker imo. Mount has the technical, athletic and tactical know how to be a key cog further up the pitch with and without ball. Bruno can still contribute with his goals and assists but it would probably be best imo to play him as a wide playmaker ala Tadic.
Assumed this at the time. That he was their plan A, then Mac Allister was their plan B
I dont like Bruno much as a #8 either, but Ten Hag seems to. And Bruno seems very integral to the team, so I dont see him being rotated or moved wide.
Caicedo is the ''tastier'' signing so to speak but I can see how Mount could work well in Ten Hag's system. Same goes for that Dutch bastard De Jong. Caicedo on the other hand wouldn't make as much sense in terms of how we play/ compliment the players we already have in the team.
They wanted both it seems. They're now linked to a Mason Mount alternative in the Hungarian player from RB Leipzig, Dominik Szobszlai (sp). Who I wanted us to sign during Solkskjaer's time as manager.
I recall being very underwhelmed by him while following Chelsea's struggles (and frequently bet against them). I thought Kovacic was far superior in midfield. Mount must have felt very grateful for playing with Havertz.
I've been asking myself why EtH would want Mount. And I think it's because he doesn't trust Bruno out of possession centrally in a higher line.
Extremely underwhelming at £55 million for a player with less than a year left on his contract and average at best. We are actively funding Chelsea’s bid for Caicedo.
Watching some compilations, and two things jumped out. He isn't always in control of the ball while dribbling, and his passes aren't usually hit with precision. He has his strengths, but overall he is such a basic footballer and doesn't excite me at all.
I'm back to being less optimistic bout this signing.
I'm back to being less optimistic bout this signing.
These "funding Caicedo to Chelsea if we buy Mount" comments are so incredibly boring.
1. They will get Caicedo if they want to, regardless if they sell Mount or not.
2. What does it matter? Ten Hag prefers Mount and an offensive/creative playstyle as opposed to a defensive/brute style.
3. Caicedo has had one good season in PL and it's a bit premature to call him the next Kanté. Bissouma had even better passing and defensive stats in a weaker Brighton last year and we all know how he turned out.
1. They will get Caicedo if they want to, regardless if they sell Mount or not.
2. What does it matter? Ten Hag prefers Mount and an offensive/creative playstyle as opposed to a defensive/brute style.
3. Caicedo has had one good season in PL and it's a bit premature to call him the next Kanté. Bissouma had even better passing and defensive stats in a weaker Brighton last year and we all know how he turned out.
If it's a choice between one or the other for us, Mount would indeed be extremely underwhelming. I think the only way utd fans (by the majority) will be happy with Mount this summer is if we sign Caicedo as well.
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