Mason Mount | Confirmed

[Kaos]

The gigachad move would be to wear Chelsea down until they accept our offer for Mount, complete the signing and then swiftly hijack the Caicedo deal anyway

There's of course a 2% chance of that happening at best, and it wouldn't be smart business by us, though would be funny nonetheless.

 

[croadyman]

I think its important we don't fold in this negotiation

sends a good message for once

Yeah even if we lose out on Caicedo at least it shows our stances are getting stronger. This will definitely prove beneficial for any future deals

 

[bringbackbebe]

Just insert a Ballon d'or clause worth 15m and get done? This way, Chelsea get to boast they got 65m for Mount. Boehly doesn't look like the guy who worries much about reality.

 

[McGrathsipan]

As long as we win on the pitch, where it actually matters, then who really gives a feck at the end of the day

Can't win on the pitch unless the back room is performing well.
We've seen over the last 10 years we've wasted a bazillion quid

 

[TheLord]

This will be done next week. Disgraceful how they’ve treated Mount. Reminds me of how Woodward have treated our players in the past.

Mount is contractually bound to Chelsea by free will.
Chelsea have the right to demand whatever fee they deem appropriate by free will.
Mount has the right to turn down any future Chelsea contracts by free will.
No one is holding anyone hostage beyond the terms of the existing contract.


Why is it always the club's fault in issues like these? Why disgraceful of the club?

 

[Marcelinho87]

Mount is contractually bound to Chelsea by free will.
Chelsea have the right to demand whatever fee they deem appropriate by free will.
Mount has the right to turn down any future Chelsea contracts by free will.
No one is holding anyone hostage beyond the terms of the existing contract.


Why is it always the club's fault in issues like these? Why disgraceful of the club?

Because we have a forum full of people who love to spend the day hating on the club they apparently support.

 

[bringbackbebe]

Mount is contractually bound to Chelsea by free will.
Chelsea have the right to demand whatever fee they deem appropriate by free will.
Mount has the right to turn down any future Chelsea contracts by free will.
No one is holding anyone hostage beyond the terms of the existing contract.


Why is it always the club's fault in issues like these? Why disgraceful of the club?

We haven't see something like this happening at City (or even Liverpool). It's only a thing at clubs like Chelsea and United (before ETH) where players fight and want to leave but clubs don't let them go. Guardiola woulda shipped them out the moment that thought enters their mind. He got rid of one of the best full backs in the league mid season ffs and they won the treble. This explains a lot of difference in mentality and why they're so far ahead.

 

[Tarrou]

Because we have a forum full of people who love to spend the day hating on the club they apparently support.

pretty sure he's hating on Chelsea though, which is absolutely fine

 

[Mainoldo]

Because we have a forum full of people who love to spend the day hating on the club they apparently support.

Read it properly. Who was criticising the club?

 

[Mainoldo]

Mount is contractually bound to Chelsea by free will.
Chelsea have the right to demand whatever fee they deem appropriate by free will.
Mount has the right to turn down any future Chelsea contracts by free will.
No one is holding anyone hostage beyond the terms of the existing contract.


Why is it always the club's fault in issues like these? Why disgraceful of the club?

Fully aware of that. It doesn’t make it right though. They are overvaluing an asset due to who the buying club is.

 

[Highfather_24]

Mason Mount vs Christian Eriksen

Mason Mount vs Caicedo

Interesting way to see their profiles, their strengths, weaknesses, and how much they will actually improve us. If you dont want to fall into severe depression, please dont look up McTominay's chart.

 

[Marcelinho87]

Read it properly. Who was criticising the club?

I didn't read your post, just the reply!

My bad.

 

[aeh1991]

If you dont want to fall into severe depression, please dont look up McTominay's chart.

 

[redcucumber]

Mason Mount vs Christian Eriksen

Mason Mount vs Caicedo

Interesting way to see their profiles, their strengths, weaknesses, and how much they will actually improve us. If you dont want to fall into severe depression, please dont look up McTominay's chart.

I'm assuming those numbers are from last season?

 

[lysglimt]

I find it alittle wierd to see players crying when leaving a club to join another? I mean nobody is putting a gun to your head forcing you to leave.

Crying is overkill - but why shouldnt you feel sad when you are leaving a job that has been a part of your life for many years. I have changed jobs many times - even if it was my choice most of the times I still felt sad leaving nice work colleagues behind.

 

[lysglimt]

United should stick to their guns, £50 million plus £5 million in add ons is more than fair.

If we are £5 million apart - then we should not stick to our guns. That is just stupid if he is a player ETH really wants. We talk to Chelsea and say 52.5 + 5 m or something - and it will get sorted. Win/Win for everybody

 

[HarryGreaves123]

Mount is a good player, but he strikes me more as a Fred replacement, rather than a replacement for Eriksen.

I guess Ten Hag now prefers to spend money on energy rather than brain and elegance in the midfield. Which is, at least, interesting.

 

[pacifictheme]

Mason Mount vs Christian Eriksen

Mason Mount vs Caicedo

Interesting way to see their profiles, their strengths, weaknesses, and how much they will actually improve us. If you dont want to fall into severe depression, please dont look up McTominay's chart.

Have you got mounts from a previous season (assuming this is last season's).

 

[Highfather_24]

Have you got mounts from a previous season (assuming this is last season's).

It is, and nope sadly.

 

[pacifictheme]

It is, and nope sadly.

Ah that's a shame. He was injured a lot last year so would be good to see what he's like at his best over a full season. Might be the same but would have been interesting to see.

 

[Crimson King]

Mount is a good player, but he strikes me more as a Fred replacement, rather than a replacement for Eriksen.

I guess Ten Hag now prefers to spend money on energy rather than brain and elegance in the midfield. Which is, at least, interesting.

He's probably a mix of the two. Not as good a passer as Eriksen at his best, but has Fred's energy and ability to press high and create turnovers. Better passer and goal scorer than Fred though.

 

[AlexUTD]

Crying is overkill - but why shouldnt you feel sad when you are leaving a job that has been a part of your life for many years. I have changed jobs many times - even if it was my choice most of the times I still felt sad leaving nice work colleagues behind.

Sad to leave nice colleagues of course, but i never cried when i left to work somewhere else cause it was my choice and i get better pay.

It feels fake to me.

 

[WeePat]

Sad to leave nice colleagues of course, but i never cried when i left to work somewhere else cause it was my choice and i get better pay.

It feels fake to me.

Now, suppose you’ve been with this company since the age of 7 and you’re now 25. You’re spent your childhood, your teenage years and your entire adulthood so far in this company. It’s all you’ve ever known and a lot of the folks you work alongside have been there since you were 7. Now add the unique emotions and feelings that football has into the mix. It’s not hard to see why some players cry when they leave their boyhood clubs.

 

[Hammondo]

Mason Mount vs Christian Eriksen

Mason Mount vs Caicedo

Interesting way to see their profiles, their strengths, weaknesses, and how much they will actually improve us. If you dont want to fall into severe depression, please dont look up McTominay's chart.

Surely this shows Mount is an AM, not a CM.

 

[Banana Republic]

We'll still need someone alongside Casemiro and to provide cover for him, when he's not available.
Mount isn't doing that job and if Fred and McTominay are sold, we are going to be desperately short.


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[Syphon Wallet]

Yes many times. And never cried or got upset about it.

We are all built differently I guess.
Personally I can relate to it.

 

[Syphon Wallet]

Surely this shows Mount is an AM, not a CM.

Yeah it does, but with a strange aversion to forward passes.
Side Mount.

 

[croadyman]

We'll still need someone alongside Casemiro and to provide cover for him, when he's not available.
Mount isn't doing that job and if Fred and McTominay are sold, we are going to be desperately short.


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Yeah but the big question is who?

 

[saik]

 

[Giggsy13]

If we are £5 million apart - then we should not stick to our guns. That is just stupid if he is a player ETH really wants. We talk to Chelsea and say 52.5 + 5 m or something - and it will get sorted. Win/Win for everybody

This has been the problem with our club for years though, we aren’t ruthless enough in these moments. We’ve bent too much in negotiations and clubs now take the approach that they can squeeze United for more money. This is a good principled position and the Sterling comparison to last season is appropriate. Why would we pay £7.5 to £15 million more one season later when it’s an identical scenario?

 

[thomas porter]

I think both clubs will compromise and most likely we'll land at about 60m with 50-55m in fixed fee plus bonuses.

 

[caid]

This has been the problem with our club for years though, we aren’t ruthless enough in these moments. We’ve bent too much in negotiations and clubs now take the approach that they can squeeze United for more money. This is a good principled position and the Sterling comparison to last season is appropriate. Why would we pay £7.5 to £15 million more one season later when it’s an identical scenario?

Because Mount is younger and Chelsea dont want to sell him unlike City being quite keen to get rid of Sterling.

 

[FrankDrebin]

 

[sullydnl]

Some form of compromise seems the most likely outcome. They really aren't that far apart in valuation and it seems clear that Chelsea want to sell.

 

[Bertie Wooster]

If we are £5 million apart - then we should not stick to our guns. That is just stupid if he is a player ETH really wants. We talk to Chelsea and say 52.5 + 5 m or something - and it will get sorted. Win/Win for everybody

Yeah, I agree. There's times to make a stance, and times when that's just biting off your nose to spite your face. In this case, walking away from our number 1 target over what is now, reportedly, just £5m difference, would be the latter. Just reach a compromise, pay just £2-3m more than you've last bid, and get the manager the player he wants.

 

[Dancfc]

This is a good principled position and the Sterling comparison to last season is appropriate. Why would we pay £7.5 to £15 million more one season later when it’s an identical scenario?

Because on that occasion the selling club were somewhere in-between happy to let him leave and actively wanting him to go.

Not the case here.

 

[Lash]

If we are £5 million apart - then we should not stick to our guns. That is just stupid if he is a player ETH really wants. We talk to Chelsea and say 52.5 + 5 m or something - and it will get sorted. Win/Win for everybody

Of course we should, that just sets a precedent for any other transfer going forward. You either have a budget or you don't, you can't just keep "meeting in the middle" or you run out of cash. Chelsea have consistently come down and started from an unreasonable position anyway and have zero leverage, why should we bail them out?

 

[Giggsy13]

Because on that occasion the selling club were somewhere in-between happy to let him leave and actively wanting him to go.

Not the case here.

Unhappy or happy to sell, Mount has expressed a desire not to sign a new deal.

 

[Rajiztar]

Of course we should, that just sets a precedent for any other transfer going forward. You either have a budget or you don't, you can't just keep "meeting in the middle" or you run out of cash. Chelsea have consistently come down and started from an unreasonable position anyway and have zero leverage, why should we bail them out?

Nothing set the precedent going forward regarding transfer business. It's all about how much you want the player and how much player wanted to play for your club.

In this case mount gave you upper hand. But still chelsea hold all the power if we wanted to we can still say mount won't go anywhere.

 

[Lash]

Nothing set the precedent going forward regarding transfer business. It's all about how much you want the player and how much player wanted to play for your club.

In this case mount gave you upper hand. But still chelsea hold all the power if we wanted to we can still say mount won't go anywhere.

Of course it does if we cave, that's literally why you've taken up this position because you think we will, as we have in the past.

They obviously hold all the ultimate power to let him go, but if you take a hard line, you stand to lose him for nothing. Mount isn't going to make or break our season, so we should stick to an upper limit we seem to have set - which I still think is overpaying as it is.