Did Chelsea ask to put out Bayern rumours to counterattack or Caicedo smoke screen?
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Although I agree with you, there's no guarantee he will pick us when he's free. Interest in him will be more intense.
100%, the manager should always have some input. It has to be a collaborative effort, not something dictated by any one person.
I'm not sure to what degree this discussion is relevant to this thread anyway as Mount is a player most top PL sides' recruitment teams would happily opt for as a target when available, so it's hard to discern anything about how we are currently operating from this attempt to sign him.
It seems that way. Man United put out that they're going for Caicedo and Chelsea counter with leaks of Bayern links.
Bonkers to me that they don't just pick up the phone and have a conversation. Seems a colossal waste of everyones time to do anything else.
Then he would be awful DoF, someone who is power hungry idiot.
Recruitment team should work with manager/head coach to see what's best for the club and proceed with the targets. No individual should take the decision and recruitment team along with coaching staff should be a team.
What an absolute bunch of horse shite
I reckon after pep leaves city though they’re gonna go for a similar type of manager, otherwise their talented squad is wasted. If you’re gonna go from an attack minded manager to a more defensive one then its a waste of the players talents. There are managers that have certain styles but may tweak a few things. Like the Brighton manager could probably do a job at Liverpool and city with his style and their players. A lot of managers buy players to fit their philosophy, they may improve a few players but they rarely improve players to play the way they want. When pep took over city he bought dozens of FBs and a completely new defence to play the way he wanted. He didn’t improve anyone to play the way he wanted.
The outrage on here based on hypotheticals is hilarious at times. I mean from what we’ve read, United said they’d walk away and by all accounts have done, but some people are going mad that they might put in another bid.
A DOF is never there for years. It’s over blown nonsense, DOF themselves have a high turnover at most clubs.
It's mental isn't it?
United say they that the next bid is the last one and they'll walk away if it's rejected.
United bid.
Chelsea reject it demand more.
United walk away but leave the door open because they like the player and the player wants to join.
Caf: "EmBaRrAsSiNg!!"
If he doesn't choose us, then he doesn't really want to come to us and there's no point overthinking it.
Mount wanted to be amongst the top tier in pay at Chelsea. I don’t see Bayern offering Mount 250k without irking few other players.
I'm looking at some stats and now understand more why Ten Hag would want Mount in his squad. I'm still not confident about him and Bruno as the 2 midfielders in front of Casemiro. I could see though how both of them pressing from the front would be an annoyance for basically any team. Mount's pressing numbers were incredible since he started in the PL and we know Bruno could press albeit a bit chaotically at times.
Of course, if he comes he'll have to regain the form he achieved under Tuchel
Of course, if he comes he'll have to regain the form he achieved under Tuchel
It's all well and good "sticking to our guns" but we've been here before with the board not backing the manager. I'm not a huge Mason Mount fan but clearly ETH is and once again we'll have got to the start of the season without player(s) the boss wants, having wasted weeks. I really hope the new owners wipes this bunch of dicks in the boardroom away
If Chelsea didn't offer 250K and Man United don't agree a fee, Bayern wouldn't need to offer 250K.
Also, Bayern are already paying over 200K a week to about 10 players, 1 more won't irk anyone.
Hopefully Mount only wants United. So he can wait a year, we pay him more money whilst getting him for free. feck you Chelsea.
He won’t move anyway. Part of the brief over the last week is Mount wanting United now and when he’s on a free
Bayerns interest is not an indication of a players interest.Wait a second. He wanted to go United , and only to United
That’s literally how a DOF works.
You have a style of play, you bring in a manager/head coach who plays that way, the DOF gets players that suit that style of play. Manager says I need a striker. DOF gets a striker.
That’s how the DOF works. A manager has very little say if any say at all in transfers.
Of course it’s different at every club and slight tweaks are made but that essentially is how a DOF model works. It’s why so many managers hate the DOF model.
I only hope that the board will not budge and stick to their guns. Paying even 50+m for a player in his last year of contract from a team that finished 12 last season is a massive overpayment and would set us back for the entire transfer window.
There's a limit to how much they can back him. Chelsea are being ridiculous in their demands so I'm quite pleased that they're sticking to their guns.
Also, weeks? Calm down a bit would you.
This is my point. Mason Mount has a half-decent season, hits 8, 10 goals or so, which is plausible, and then we have a complete lottery next season. I'm quite disappointed that we haven't got this done (as yet..). Mount may need to push this thorugh himself, because he doesn't want to play for Chelsea.
It's all well and good but even Pep and Klopp themselves have evolved so distinctly from their earlier versions when they were at Barcelona and Dortmund respectively .
Heck their tenure at current Clubs bears no resemblance to how they began their Stints either .
when chelsea come calling for
As I said, I'm no great fan of Mount, but this is the transfer ETH is clearly focusing on. He obviously wants him and has a particular vision for him so we should go all out to get him. Once again, other clubs breeze through their transfers, even bloody Arsenal. Us? not so, much. Someone tell me how Arsenal can buy Havertz and remain clearly in pole position to spend £100m on Rice, while we can't...
Yeh... weeks... that's what they said last year about FdJ.
As I said, I'm no great fan of Mount, but this is the transfer ETH is clearly focusing on. He obviously wants him and has a particular vision for him so we should go all out to get him. Once again, other clubs breeze through their transfers, even bloody Arsenal. Us? not so, much. Someone tell me how Arsenal can buy Havertz and remain clearly in pole position to spend £100m on Rice, while we can't...
I can't believe that Mount is ten Hag's one and ONLY target this year. Just concentrate on his other targets for now and if we have 70 million spare at the end of summer, we do this.
Why are transfers always so laboured with this club?
Why are transfers always so laboured with this club?
But you're making it out like all of this is down us.
Chelsea are being ridiculous with their demands and we've compromised 3 times. They still want more and we obviously have a budget that won't allow for that.
We have other priority areas that need addressing and if we overpay for Mount it will have a knock on effect. We also know that ETH has back ups of the same profile in case we don't get Mount.
Arsenal aren't breezing through anything. They've just overpaid for Havertz and are probably gonna overpay for Rice, having been chasing him since the end of the season. It's still not 100% he'll join them.
The hysteria of certain sections of this fan base... sheesh!!
Umm they really aren't. Last year Casemiro, Martinez, Eriksen and Malacia weren't laboured. Antony was the only one you could label as a laboured saga. FDJ was another one.I can't believe that Mount is ten Hag's one and ONLY target this year. Just concentrate on his other targets for now and if we have 70 million spare at the end of summer, we do this.
Why are transfers always so laboured with this club?
The year before Ronaldo and Varane weren't long running while Sancho was. The year before that we got DVB, Telles and Cavani without any saga.
This is just a Caf circlejerk where they want transfers resolved within a week and think all our transfers take ages. It's only June right now, if we were to sign Mount in the next couple of weeks this would actually be a fairly swift transfer.
I'm not fussed either way, we get him or not. EtH seems to like him, FDJ last season that went well then we brought in Casimero that was better imo.
Chelsea are trying to screw us so just call the player tell him sorry son looks like it's not happening, leave it to him to force his move or tell him come next season for free and add another £75 k a week on his wages.
The bollocks in the press seems apt for the new Chelsea owner that's how he bought the club by press releases. If Mount comes I hope its the UTD price he comes for. We cannot be held to ransom on transfers.
Chelsea are trying to screw us so just call the player tell him sorry son looks like it's not happening, leave it to him to force his move or tell him come next season for free and add another £75 k a week on his wages.
The bollocks in the press seems apt for the new Chelsea owner that's how he bought the club by press releases. If Mount comes I hope its the UTD price he comes for. We cannot be held to ransom on transfers.
I like Mount, I’d welcome him here. Every Chelsea player underperformed enormously last season and he was their POTY in a CL winning season. Rashford was terrible for us for a big spell (partly injury) but look at him last season. I see a similar uptick in Mount’s fortunes too.
My main concern is around the wider transfer strategy this summer. Is Mount our #1 target across all positions? I hope we are doing business under the radar. We have been surprised with transfers in years gone by so not everything needs to be a 2 month saga so I’ve still got hope.
My main concern is around the wider transfer strategy this summer. Is Mount our #1 target across all positions? I hope we are doing business under the radar. We have been surprised with transfers in years gone by so not everything needs to be a 2 month saga so I’ve still got hope.
Pretty much!This is crazy…. So there’s me thinking Pep was the guy at City. But it’s Taxiri calling the shots.
Have abit of perspective mate. If the DoF and manager are in disagreement the DoF has F’d up.
I can't believe that Mount is ten Hag's one and ONLY target this year. Just concentrate on his other targets for now and if we have 70 million spare at the end of summer, we do this.
Why are transfers always so laboured with this club?
While I am also frustrated by the lack of official news, just because there is silence in the media surely cannot be taken to mean that United are not simultaneously working on the other targets EtH wants.
If only I could trust the club to conclude this in the next couple of weeks.
The fact that always have one summer long 'Will he, won't he?' saga almost every year is more than laboured enough for me. I can't remember the last time we had a relatively clean summer or sorting everything out before preseason.
If the club or the man doesn't fancy it, we move on.
Chelsea always use Ben for their PR. I’m sure once the deal is agreed on our terms they’ll be a Chelsea spin by Ben.
Yep. That fella's a chancer and always presents himself as being the smartest man in the room
What?? Who said that he’s our only target? We’ve been heavily linked with Onana?!I can't believe that Mount is ten Hag's one and ONLY target this year. Just concentrate on his other targets for now and if we have 70 million spare at the end of summer, we do this.
Why are transfers always so laboured with this club?
I literally said that it’s different at every club. So at City, you’d think, Pep being who he is, more or less gets the rule of the roost. If it was someone else however, I don’t think he’d have as much freedom as Pep gets.
I can't believe that Mount is ten Hag's one and ONLY target this year. Just concentrate on his other targets for now and if we have 70 million spare at the end of summer, we do this.
Why are transfers always so laboured with this club?
I can't imagine the mental gymnastics you'd have to leap through to even imagine that's the case. Nobody has even remotely suggested that.
A lot happens in a year. Frankly, I doubt we wait. We have issues that need sorting now.
Well all I'm hearing lately is Mount, Mount, Mount. No bids that I am aware of for other players.
I don't mind Mount but I don't want him to be the Sneijder or FDJ or Sancho or Maguire for this summer.
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