Outrage we haven't signed anyone coupled with incredulity we're not walking away from every deal if there's a difference in valuation
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Dont understand why it’s taken so long and if they knew it was going to be a drawn out affair can they not fecking multitask and be getting a keeper/striker signed in the meantime
We should walk away from not signing anyone.
I’d imagine there’s no rush because it’s blatantly obvious to all parties it’s going to happen.
Chelsea want him gone this summer rather than free next summer for the FFP relief the fee brings.
Mount wants it to happen.
Utd want him.
It’s happening no matter what.
It’s a complex argument because Fred’s off the ball work as an 8 benefits the side massively defensively, but on the ball he’s terribly inconsistent which in turn makes him a liability. It’s more focussed on our midfield needing that nippy pit bull energy in tough games, which Fred possesses, throwing tackles in all over the place and being a nuisance. I don’t see Mount as that type of no 8 personally, he’s more of a 10 than a 6.
£55m + 5 will get it done I think and I’d be happy with that. Yes he’s only got a year left but we’ve got United tax and English tax to contend with.
Still young, very good pro and brings a lot of things we’re missing IMO.
Still young, very good pro and brings a lot of things we’re missing IMO.
Timing isn't a big deal so long as we sign them before pre season
Actually I am quite pleased with how the club went about on this deal, first offer United made was 40, then 45+5 and probably that is as high as the United is willing to go, and as you mentioned, the initial reports about Chelsea's position were 80, then 70+add-ons and now it's 60+add-ons, so they budged several times and will accept far lesser than what was reported initially, I am expecting the our club not to budge from the 45+5 and wait for Chelsea to accept, no way they walk away from 45m for a player on his last year
Not gonna happen, think it will seal the deal at 55+5
Initial reports said Chelsea will not accept anything below 80, United only offered 40, now they want 60+5 and United offered 45+5, , which means Chelsea aren't entrenched in their position, and the longer this goes on their resolve will wane surely and they will have to accept the 45 on the table
I thought it was rejected today, no?
Yes it was rejected but as I said, United doesn't need to up their offer, 45+5 is a very fair deal for a player like Mount who is on his last year, just wait and Chelsea will evantually accept the 45+5.
Btw this is what I hope to happen imo, not sure if the club will do so.
Wank away
It's Mas-ON !!!!
English and United tax = exorbitant value. United will end up paying just as they did for Antony.
We're getting £70 mil it seems for Havertz. Don't let Arsenal out-do you.
I’d do the same so for once I’m not mad at you.
There are rumours that Ed Woodward has been seen at United's HQ in London.
This. You are correct.
Exactly. Sign the man! And sign more! Next season is going to be mega tough. Need players. Get em' in!
I hope we are not as dumb as Arsenal.
This is absolutely ridiculous. Mount is the kind of signing you try and get on the cheap because he’s in the final year of his contact and he’ll add depth to the squad. Making him your priority midfield target and spending the the majority of your budget on him is complete insanity. And you just know we’ll go back and offer more until we eventually pay what chelsea wanted in the first place. Our ineptitude in the market knows no bounds.
Just another Maguire and Sancho, he’ll be deadwood in a few years. Literally will not move us one inch closer to City, who are buying the better Chelsea midfielder and also Gvardiol
I bet we're going to get absolutely rinsed again as usual which puts pressure on the player as well.
Don't mind us signing him but just hope we get the players we actually need too.
Don't mind us signing him but just hope we get the players we actually need too.
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I’d tell Chelsea to jog on, £50m is more than enough but I can see us compromising and getting this done at £55-60m.
That's the obvious huge fear.
For us to play with a single DM and two no.8s, I think we need a much higher line which means a sweeper keeper, and arguably KMJ instead of Varane. And of course a striker to keep the ball in the attack and not just is lose it all the time. I'm sure we'll sign a striker but not sure about the GK, defender.
Would sancho for mount be a good deal for both sides and players?
No need to buy Mount, lads. The Oracle has spoken.
I see similar and think it is really poor. Mount is a £55-60m player....two seasons ago. He hasnt played barely over the last season for whatever reasons and he has one year left on his contract. This would be yet another example of us over paying.....we did it on three transfers last season. Irrelevant of the fact of players turning into great signings or not, over paying on these transfers and failure to offload players generally, especially for decent fees....see us being in the same postion as we have so often been after a successful season the last decade.....we fail to get more than four signings maximum indue to our net spend within a fairly tight budget, which we are probably in aain considerign the lack of take over.
My persoal feeling is we should leave that offer on the table as our final offer, go for targetsin other positions over the next week and if Chelsea still dont accept the offer, move on. Personally think Barella at similar pricing to the £60m offers us far more all round to the position and there are others cost way less than the offer we hvae just had rejected that are on a similar level if not beter than Mount to all round defeinately, such as Caqueret.
Mount was definately not my first choice signin gthis summer in that position, but if it ends up near £60m.....its a terrible signing in terms of the window as a whole
Exactly this.
But that said, I think people are selling Mount a bit short here. He was England's preferred choice over a LOT of competition, and he'll do well for us I'm sure.
Exactly.
In a world where we have that CF, we have that goalkeeper and the right side of our back four is as strong as the left, I have no qualms with this theoretical set-up.
But we're not in that world and it will take a good bit of business to get there. Which is why I assumed we'd be looking for a different profile of midfielder to take more of the burden off the back five.
I think we're getting close to what would be my limit. I was thinking 55 tops, including add ons. There isn't much further I'd go beyond offering a more attractive structure to Chelsea.
Huge part of that 3-1-6 was Eriksen's ability to play from the deep.. either to position himself as LCB pushing Shaw high up the pitch or to remain as a pivot when Casemiro dropped between two CB's. He did roam all over the pitch and was certainly the player with the most positional freedom, but a huge part of his offensive contribution was to help Casemiro and the team in build up phase.
So no, replacing Eriksen for Mount doesn't seem like a perfect solution even in that 3-1-6 in which we so often wanted to establish control and domination.
So, call me a sceptic if Casemiro - Bruno - Mount is our answer going forward.
So no, replacing Eriksen for Mount doesn't seem like a perfect solution even in that 3-1-6 in which we so often wanted to establish control and domination.
So, call me a sceptic if Casemiro - Bruno - Mount is our answer going forward.
Chelsea will have made £150 million from out of favour Mount, crock Kovacic and flop Havertz.
Let that sink in.
Let that sink in.
We are potentially getting the worse part of that swap deal so no thanks
In what universe is that even close to true?
Sancho has proven he has elite ability, he just needs to find his groove again, I like mason Mount but I always got the impression coaches picked him as defensive right winger or a defensive number 10 and his form last season is not really better than Sancho in and out form ?
Defensive number 10? 11 goals and 10 assists in 2300 minutes in PL only last season. Not even Bruno has reached these numbers if you look away from his penalties.
The Glazers should be walking away from Old Trafford !We should walk away from not signing anyone.
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