80million is just absurd.
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And what if United are the only place he wants to go to and nobody else bids higher than us?
Havertz is another example of the pressure on Chelsea. Madrid backing out is great news for Ten Hag since that’s a cash avenue closed off to you now.
Happy to sell and you even priced him out!
Think Mount would have to do something extreme like put in a transfer request for us to buckle. Don't think he has it in him to do that but who knows. Reckon if you meet us in the middle and offer £60m incl add ons it will get done. Otherwise I think he stays and we try to get him back on board over the course of the season.
He’s a Chelsea player and should remain a Chelsea player. Doesn’t belong anywhere else. Hopefully your club digs its heels in and Poch gives him the assurances he needs
Apparently United want it at 55m. Honestly that’s more than enough. You tried the same with Pulisic etc who all wanted to leave and you said no and have fallen off a cliff since.
You have to sell players due to your bloated squad, I can’t see the point in keeping a player that doesn’t want to be there only then to sell someone who would be usefull.
Doesn’t Nkunku play as a 10?
Hopefully that's the case. If pochettino able to persuade him to stay we will be happy. Him stay with us may be the difference between getting us cl next season and not qualified for it.
Makes a lot of sense to me. I could get behind a signing like that much more than us being bent over by Chelsea for Mr Average.
Mount and Pulisic aren't really comparable in terms of what they've done for Chelsea and their importance. I believe we only got loan offers for Pulisic anyway over the last few seasons so I can understand keeping him. He and many others will definitely go permanently though, don't worry about that.
Nkunku plays behind the striker yeah. With Mount for us though he's filled in anywhere we need him, left wing/right wing/middle. That's probably part of the reason I want him to stay but also part of the reason he might want to leave - because he wants a team with a clear plan for him and consistency in one position. Maybe Poch can do that but I don't see how with Nkunku around.
Thread title update. We walked away? I surely hope we did. They can get stuffed for 80 million
Ye don’t want to sell someone who isn’t going to sign a new contract and will be free next summer?
Heck no it isn't. There's years of posts from us Englishmen on here despairing at him starting for England over actual talented players for an example.
We should get Kokcu for 35m instead. that boy is really talented and controls the game better than Mount.
Anything above 40 is ridiculous. A slightly more mobile version of Jordan Henderson. Spending 70m on a player who is at best a marginal upgrade on Eriksen, with a one year contract at a Chelsea team desperate to get rid of players will be one of our worst transfers in the last decade.
That's not United style.
United's style is to drag this out for weeks and then end up paying the £70m.
And then sign another midfielder next summer as we realise over the course of the season he isn't worth anywhere near £70m.
I'm not personally sold on Mason Mount, let alone for a huge price with a year left or elite level wages. But, and this goes for retaining de Gea as well I suppose, he may have been identified for more than just his footballing ability. We happened to be linked to Spurs' and England's captain as well as West Ham's captain (and likely future England captain) too. So maybe the overlap there is leadership. I confess, I have not watched that much of Mason Mount, but enough to think he's a good player with a great engine, but I've never wished we'd had him. I assume ETH is looking for certain types of characters - he brought in Martinez and Casemiro, Eriksen is a cool head too despite his fading physical attributes, and he may well want to retain de Gea on lower wages because he's important in the dressing room. I'm keeping an open mind about ETH's read on things when my uneducated instinct (and I'll likely keep belting that out here) is to get rid of de Gea now, hold off Mount's signing unless it's for a modest price on a not-extravagant wage, etc. etc.
I don't recall Henderson ever getting close to 13 goals and 16 assists in a season during his career. Some of the hyperbole on this thread is mad.
We shouldn't be paying anywhere near that, considering contract situation and also his level. He is not that good.
Would love if he spend all that on Caicedo.
I mean if we could actually get Caicedo for 80 it would be an absolute no brainer. Especially if Chelsea are in for him as well and we get him ahead of them and show them right up by trying to price gouge on Mount. No shame at that club at all
In around 6 months time his value would be close to 0., as he could sign pre-agreement for free. Just bear in mind that.
Exactly. Chelsea have pretty much no hand to play with here. We should just stick to our 40-50m bid and go no further. They’ll be forced so sell as they need to due to ffp too
We should just hold onto 40m offer, not a penny more.
Yeah, we should be in for him.
Also we should play waiting game, he has only one year left, if he wants to extend let him do that. He isn't some unmissiable player that we have to do everything to sign him. He is decent-good player.
With so many positions to strengthen and less money we have to we shouldn't waste bulk of it on Mount.
Chelsea asking for more than he's worth, get over it. It's negotiating 101.
maybe wait to see how much he costs before having the full meltdown?
maybe wait to see how much he costs before having the full meltdown?
Totally agree.
Our top priority should be a world class top scorer. Then a GK. The midfield could wait a bit imo. We also have Mejbri whom I heard is very promising.
I’m surprised we arent due to how dead cert people consider him but the issue is that we just added Casemiro. Or maybe he just prefers another club.
There's also posts of you saying Casemiro is shit.
Almost every player has been underwhelming while playing for England. You don't think that has more to do with playing under Southgate rather than the player's abilities?
You don't get POTY for Chelsea two seasons in a row if you're not talented.
Posters on CAF rate him as dead cert or unmissable talent but it seems most Clubs while rating him highly aren't exactly prioritising him it's just not United .
Arsenal are going big for Rice , Chelsea tried to get Ugarte before Caicedo and Our primary focus is Mount for better or worse .
Yeah England is in no position to go into a game expecting to defend for 80 minutes. It was the same under Moyes, all of our attacker turned to shit overnight.
Chelsea will just play the waiting game.
We just make an offer now of 45mil and if it is knocked back then we move on elsewhere and sign him for free next season if he is available....so fecking simple!
We just make an offer now of 45mil and if it is knocked back then we move on elsewhere and sign him for free next season if he is available....so fecking simple!
You assume we'll buy him? I think what'll get us the furthest in the market is to basically value a player and say that's our maximum and last bid. If that can't be accepted then move on.
This is just silly. He wasn't one of Chelsea's best players for two seasons running on the back of no talent.
Tuchel rated him, Klopp and Ten Hag rates him and Poch rates him. But nah, @Yagami off the Caf says he's shit so they must all be wrong.
Yeah, Mount was always criticized on caf, especially during England games. There was lot of cries for him to be dropped and play other midfielders.
Yeah, this is bit strange. Many rate Caicedo was an obvious signing but the club that was really close to signing him are trying to sign Rice for a huge fee.
Looks like he is second option for almost all clubs.
We shouldn't be going above 45m for a player that is in his last contract year and is more a jack of all trades than a specialist. Every year, teams always feel they can get a deal at our expense when it comes to transfers. Despite talk of Liverpool wanting him, they still went for McAllister above him. We're the only likely bidder for him since Liverpool are out and he isn't want Arsenal needs. Heck, rather offer Bayern 50m for Gravenberch and they are likely to bite. He would fit the team better than Mount, add Gravenberch to Rabiot on a free and we are likely covered in the CM positions. We can then target a younger understudy to Casemiro next year.
At the price of 55m+, they are better players we can target that would likely fit our team better.
At the price of 55m+, they are better players we can target that would likely fit our team better.
There's a good chance Boehley is on a learning curve for sales and we don't need to be the test rat for it.
The Mac Allister fee was fair for this calibre of player. You shouldn't really be playing more than a 40m base fee and 60m max with add-ons.
I think we probably will as these reports seem genuine
but i wouldn't be surprised to see us walk away either, and personally I'd do that if the price is above 40m
I can see us paying 70m for Mount despite the contract situation. 
Boehly has an interest in keeping us at bay and leaving this signing to the very last minute. Let's not forget that.
If we end up playing the waiting game and don't walk away, we could just end up at pre-season without a new midfielder, or even worse we could end up without one or with the third/fourth-best options if we leave it late.
We definitely need to say this is the amount we're willing to give. If you can't accept it, then we'll move on (and then proceed to also move on instead of just saying it and actually hoping). We also need clarity whether we need to sell McTominay or other players like Fred, so we can't really afford to wait for Boehly to start making sense.
If we end up playing the waiting game and don't walk away, we could just end up at pre-season without a new midfielder, or even worse we could end up without one or with the third/fourth-best options if we leave it late.
We definitely need to say this is the amount we're willing to give. If you can't accept it, then we'll move on (and then proceed to also move on instead of just saying it and actually hoping). We also need clarity whether we need to sell McTominay or other players like Fred, so we can't really afford to wait for Boehly to start making sense.
I think it's all interrelated though. If Arsenal get Caicedo, just as Liverpool have got McAllister, then the competition for Mount disappears. Chance if we walk right now Arsenal could sign him for a decent amount.
There are other players for 2/3 the price. We set a deadline and if they don’t play ball we move on.
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