Didn’t Neymar have a sexual assault case?
Why do people want him?
Why do people want him?
Mason Greenwood (Please post respectfully)
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who?The people who can’t second chance Greenwood are still calling Maradona G.O.A.T
They do?
Come on mate, you know you would cheer for Adolf Eichmann if he was good for 30 goals and assists per season.
Its not really as simple as giving him a second chance though is it. There would be a lot of pushback on him returning from advertisers and at least half of the fan base. And that's before we even get to chants from oppo fans. These are all things the club has to take into consideration when weighing whether or not to bring him back.
I think the cognitive dissonance is rooted on people having seen/heard the Greenwood audio whereas with "Qatar" it isn't a person, like a specific culprit to point to. Also, I don't believe it has been established beyond doubt that Jassim's bid isn't a private bid, but rather a state backed bid.
That's incredibly common, sadly.
There's no way he should be given that opportunity at Manchester United or the PL. He blew it.
Yeah probably, especially if the glazers end up staying.
I'll be shocked if the thread is still open by Monday.
Instinct says no and I don’t think he ever will. But he was 19. Apologises, commits to counselling and supporting others, donates half of all future earnings to woman’s aid or similar…I don’t know. Would the women within the club support that? If they did then I don’t know…
Especially if he was a left footed PK taker.
Rooney, Ronaldo & De Gea have had cases at our club & everyone wasn’t so forced on their opinion then.
So was I mate
Someone's never seen an episode of Cops.
I agree with this and have changed my mind about both. Truth is football is utterly decadent and trying to pretend otherwise is delusional. Enjoy it for what it is and save ethics for things you can control.
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the problem is nobody knows why there was no trial. could be that the audio was recorded while a role play and the photo was faked as a plot from his gf to blackmail him. that could be a way out of this at least
There wasn't audio and pics in their situations.
Hell, I’d be impressed if it was still up by sundown here.
Maybe she genuinely loves him and just wanted him to change, and he did.
I think people need to remember that this mistake took place over several months and his girlfriend had the wherewithal to record it which indicates it wasn't the first time.
It wasn't a drunken mistake or something done in anger and immediately regretted. It was a pattern of abuse.
It wasn't a drunken mistake or something done in anger and immediately regretted. It was a pattern of abuse.
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I voted yes on the basis that his Girlfriend got pregnant with his child after all this broke out. If he was such a monster why would she have anything more to do with him.
Also, reports of her using his card to buy herself gifts during this whole ordeal makes it look like a total circus.
So since accusing him of rape and battery she has continued to meet up and chat, used his credit card to buy herself gifts then to top it off, gets pregnant with his child. Hilarious.
The whole thing comes across as a bit of a hoax.
Also, reports of her using his card to buy herself gifts during this whole ordeal makes it look like a total circus.
So since accusing him of rape and battery she has continued to meet up and chat, used his credit card to buy herself gifts then to top it off, gets pregnant with his child. Hilarious.
The whole thing comes across as a bit of a hoax.
Football really brings the worst out of some people.
Jerry Springer did it better
Rooney with the old prostitute and DDG with the donut theft? Or am I missing something?
It’s a sickening one. Don’t like the bloke but I clicked yes. We need all we can get up front. Not really in a position to be booting potential generational talents out the door after they are found “not guilty”,
Doesnt fit comfortably with me but Giggs played for us too and I didn’t like his home life either.
Greenwood is young too. He needs a life lesson but not sure destroying him is the way to go about it.
Doesnt fit comfortably with me but Giggs played for us too and I didn’t like his home life either.
Greenwood is young too. He needs a life lesson but not sure destroying him is the way to go about it.
Honestly, it's best to keep any speculation to yourself. Doubt it will be appreciated and will add nothing to the thread, which is already controversial enough.
But the fact people are okay with bringing this vile person back into the fold, with audio and picture evidence of what he did, just because we need him to score a few goals with us is mind boggling to me. Surely this is bigger than a ball being kicked about on a pitch?
The cognitive dissonance is staggering and people genuinely do not seem to care what he did to this girl because as soon as the ball hits the back of that net all is right with the world, absolutely shocking if you ask me
To be fair I think it's harder when we got audio and pictures with Greenwood
Couldn't cheer a team with him in it, I'm not an uber idealist with the likes of the potential middle east ownership etc, but him returning, I personally don't think I'd be able to follow United anymore.
It's not like this is a one off thing and the talk of second chances is nonsense for me too. There was whatever happened with the England team too.
If it was someone I knew I don't think I'd be giving them 'a second chance'. That's what I find more perplexing, if this was someone you knew and this shit surfaced are you still actually going to be associated with them
It's not like this is a one off thing and the talk of second chances is nonsense for me too. There was whatever happened with the England team too.
If it was someone I knew I don't think I'd be giving them 'a second chance'. That's what I find more perplexing, if this was someone you knew and this shit surfaced are you still actually going to be associated with them
So that’s ketchup on her face then? Halloween blood?
The charges were dropped. He isn't innocent and as @horsechoker pointed out, people need to stop pretending this was just some one off incident. It's clear from the initial evidence that the victim recorded that the abuse this poor girl suffered had been going on for quite some time.
And Ronaldo’s alleged rape case was when he already left the club, and a lot of people took a huge issue with him coming back.
It’s shit whataboutism.
Something about the way many here are not even willing to consider that his actions may have been those of a troubled young man who may seen his wrongs and may be willing to actually change for the better troubles me a little.
Domestic abuse is a tricky subject I know, but from what I hear, he and the lady could have denounced him but she didn't and now they are looking to start a family. Is it really that difficult to give the young man a second chance?? This isn't a case of a serial abuser who has a long history of abuse. Why is the cafe so reluctant to even hive him a chance??
Domestic abuse is a tricky subject I know, but from what I hear, he and the lady could have denounced him but she didn't and now they are looking to start a family. Is it really that difficult to give the young man a second chance?? This isn't a case of a serial abuser who has a long history of abuse. Why is the cafe so reluctant to even hive him a chance??
Absolutely not. Some of the replies in here are vile
He’ll be abused wherever he plays but more so for playing for us. If he ever gets to have a redemption arc, it won’t be with us.
Ronaldo and Van Persie also.
I’m not trying to make anything confusing. It was stated officially that new evidence and new material came to light, causing the police to drop all charges. It has nothing to do with Hariet being with him in any way whatsoever.
I have a different opinion than you and have respectfully explained why.
If you’re not able to accept that then best leave it there - it’s not a thread / topic for petty squabbling imo.
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