Any paper in the country would have payed her millions for selling her story after all the attention.
If money is all she cared about why did she decide not to do that to be with a man with a lot of career uncertainty?
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Any paper in the country would have payed her millions for selling her story after all the attention.
If money is all she cared about why did she decide not to do that to be with a man with a lot of career uncertainty?
Legally not allowed share it
Also I think being on less money is the least of his worries right now.
Whether we believe the investigation or not, its clear playing in another country there is going to be a lot less scrutiny on him.
Racist? Where does that come from?
And I dont know either, but the club statement says they are sure he is innocent. Thats weird, no? The club is actually calling her out there
Surely someone from outside England will take a punt? Cnut or not he is/was a superb talent, and he’s still very young.
I mean this is getting into ifs and buts which is no good really
If this was me and completely innocent
That info is getting realised and I’m not getting her a ring
My only annoyance is it's such a financial waste considering where we are - hope we're loaning, then selling him for a decent fee. We could definitely do with it!
People saying she only cares about money now?
Question they must have asked that how do you prove it without bringing his wife into it. I dont want to speculate but you do understand that there are very few ways he can be proven innocent and none that actually keeps his wife out of the equation. So i guess even if by any chance there is something that helps his case, they wouldn’t want to release to public.
They also said they didn’t have access to all the evidence and their decision was based only on what they had. They also clearly avoided saying he was innocent, Greenwood referred to him being found innocent in his own statement which Sky and others have redacted for being inaccurate.
It would make sense to send him out on loan for a year.
Then he should have every right to choose whether he wants to continue at Manchester United or leave permanently. After all, according to the statements, it was a mutual decision between him and our CEO.
Winning/performing well tends to gloss over everything when it comes to sports.
Selling him now would be an absolute disaster and we wouldn't get anywhere near a proper fee, not to mention Greenwood no doubt would go on to score goals wherever he ends up.
Is it so mental to give a young lad a second chance? Especially after he has publicly admitted to his mistakes and is striving to be better.
The feeling for me is we've left him out to the wolves. So much for protecting our own. fecking cowards.
I think he will be playing for a club in Turkey for a bit and if he ends up at one with European competition I can see his stock slowly rising again
Of course the issue with him not playing for 18 months without even professional training etc. is a huge problem but I don't think he will be in decent (not his old self) form by March assuming he gets a club in September
If he was around 25 or so I would have serious doubts but he is only 21 still
Of course the issue with him not playing for 18 months without even professional training etc. is a huge problem but I don't think he will be in decent (not his old self) form by March assuming he gets a club in September
If he was around 25 or so I would have serious doubts but he is only 21 still
The prospect of losing access to the lifestyle that he can provide her with is every bit as likely an explanation for her change of attitude during this process as any other that has been brought forward. I was just pointing out the ridiculousness of the original post presenting the posters opinion as if it was a verified fact, we don't know why they are back together.
What we shouldn’t do is assume things, like that his mental health is so damaged. Some people cope with things, some people have issues with diversity but we have no idea where he is at.
Saudi Arabia.
i don’t get how people think we will loan him, or even sell to be honest. I believe he’ll be released
Greenwood can share it, absolutely nothing to stop him or his girlfriend sharing it.
Of course he'll be back. Rival fans will forget about him in a few months and I wouldn't be surprised to see him back in the PL within two years.
That was part of the reason reason too. For months prior to that he was breaking the requirement to stay away from her. Naughty boy
Of course they are, surprised it took this long.
Innocent of what he was charged with - Mason said the same thing. It's either a load of shit or some carefully chosen words.
There's always Option 3 which is that he's innocent of any wrongdoing of any kind, but the fact that they're not releasing anything makes me question that possibility. Plus the club didn't have access to all of the information anyway, only what was given to them by the accused.
Yes it is. Please do read what innocent before law means. And his opinion was as a lawyer and not some vigilante journalist.
Otherwise whats the point of legal system if you cant be called innocent when no charges have been brought against you.
Felt exception not rule but I get you.
Each to their own indeed.
I've spoken about Alonso on here many many times. If you are interested the search function is easy to use but I won't derail the thread re-hashing years old debates.
Completely different sort of case - Doherty pleaded guilty. DV cases - where the defendant denies the charges - will rarely result in a conviction if the complainant is not cooperating. Burglaries are different, as there will likely be physical evidence and potentially independent witnesses linking the defendant to the crime, meaning the complainant’s cooperation is less vital.
You don't think his girlfriend (she's not his wife) would want this all cleared up? Of course she would need to get involved if she wanted this cleared up.
People drop charges, make out of court settlements, sign NDA's, get back with people, forgive people because of money all the time.
We've seen many footballers wives do this never mind wider society. It's a well walked path.
I say this without any judgement whatsoever. Money matters. It plays a huge role in life like it or not.
It's certainly more plausible than Greenwood almost immediately forgiving her for destroying his life.
He hasn’t admitted to whatever he did though. He just said “mistakes” which is far too vague to stop the questions. If he wanted to stay at OT he needed to come out,’have an interview and be transparent about what happened. But he didn’t so the questions will always be there. Especially for DV
Not if you believe he did it, it's not. It's fairly straightforward then.
Course you were
Believe what you want, the post in question stated as fact a number of things that were anything but facts however you clearly support the original posters agenda so I will leave you to continue writing your Mason Greenwood fanmail.
None of them were found guilty of anything.
In fact, only in 1 of the cases has the alleged victim spoken in favour of the accused.
United have set (been forced into) a precedent, why shouldn’t others follow?
Going on loan for a year and bringing him back the next will only confirm Richard Arnold's status as the mother of all snakes. Nobody is fooled with that sort of meaningless action. It will only bring more disrepute to the club later on.
It cannot happen that way.
I don't know how easy it is. And I guess we won't find somebody who is able to compare those to from an affected perspective. But I see your point, there is an actual difference, still don't know the extent. Especially seeing that social media is a much more integral part of younger peoples life than say mine. Don't know about you though.
True. There certainly isn't much and the things with the most substance while not being the end of all things are certainly concerning.
Agreed.
I think, there is a misunderstanding. I meant "strange people" in a sense that people who don't know Greenwood personally would go after him for a certain event, in Greenwoods perspective maybe even only a version of that certain event. This is kind of the connection with the actual witch hunts, people got diffamated for whatever reasons and it triggered strong feelings by completely other people who didn't know the actual involved people.
edit: but sensing the vibe of the forum today, can understand the confusion. But isn't "a complete stranger" a saying about people one doesn't have any connections with?
Easier said than done - IIRC under UK legislation the alleged victim has a right for anonymity for life - and if the supposed evidence the club used to ascertain he's not guilty of what he was initially charged with compromises said right for anonymity/the alleged victim - how would they publish those findings? Greenwood and the girl have just had a kid and are in a relationship - would he even want that? would their families? Too many unknowns and variables.
What we do know is the club doesn't believe him to be guilty of what he was initially accused of
I think we are talking about different things. You are talking more general. I am talking more specific.
I do not think that a case involving domestic violence getting dropped because the alleged victim does not want to move forward is not "as close you can get to being exonerated." Domestic violence cases get dropped because of this all the time.
Greenwood being 'innocent in the eyes of the law' is largely irrelevant here, United did not restore him in February when the case was dropped.
Should have been sacked the same hour the video was postedOut of context right guys?
A decision that makes sense, and is thought for protecting Mason and his new family. The amount of abuse he would have gotten from opposition fans is insane, and as people has mentioned his GF would also have gotten abuse.
Sad to lose such a talent, specially one who would be so useful for ETH.
Sad to lose such a talent, specially one who would be so useful for ETH.
Not surprised by the statement and decision. United have been a joke of a club for over a decade on and off the pitch. The comedy just continues.
Oh i thought they are married. My mistake.
Look I have no idea but i am just speculating unnecessarily here. Whatever decision they have taken, they must have thought about it. In case he was innocent, i can only think the reason why they might not want to release the specific for obvious reason. If he has been an idiot and has reformed post that, then he knows the society being judgemental that it is wont allow his return. So i see no point in releasing the specific.
Somehow it made sense in my mind. Apologies if it didn’t. But i do think its better for his family to grow away from limelight. You can see how that Athletic reporter is gloating how his reporting led to U turn by United. It was quite clear that judgement was already passed on him no matter what
Unfortunately there is a huge proportion of men who hate and despise women.
To see a young man physically abuse and sexually assault his GF, stay with her, father a child with her, marry her, all the while likely continuing to abuse her while he still gets to collect a large paycheck every week while playing for one of the largest football clubs in the world, then he becomes their ultimate hero, a top G so to speak.
To them he's getting one over on women and getting to give them joy by playing for their team. He's taking what's his, or whatever he wants and he faces no consequences for his actions because he's an alpha.
It's sad and bleak.
To see a young man physically abuse and sexually assault his GF, stay with her, father a child with her, marry her, all the while likely continuing to abuse her while he still gets to collect a large paycheck every week while playing for one of the largest football clubs in the world, then he becomes their ultimate hero, a top G so to speak.
To them he's getting one over on women and getting to give them joy by playing for their team. He's taking what's his, or whatever he wants and he faces no consequences for his actions because he's an alpha.
It's sad and bleak.
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