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Luckhurst with another truth bomb
I mean, it’s surely better that they U-turn on an idiotic decision rather than if they persisted with a damaging choice?
Luckhurst with another truth bomb
He is the guy at the end with clear prejudice and bias.If Wumminator was in the "12 angry men", it would've been a 5min short with a quick death sentence.
but they mentioned both thgings - why would they do that if it was only the victim withdrawing her statement?The withdrawal of key witnesses which you haven't highlighted is also a key statement. If witnesses do not provided that testimony, there is less chance of conviction.
It is the right decision but now completely baffled by the reasons they are giving for doing it. We are not being told everything.I think something is going on here that is not being fully explained
So if there's no trial but he's presumed innocent before trial what do you think has happened to that presumption? Nothing. Legally he is innocent because he has not been proven to be guilty.He wasn't. The charges were dropped. Different thing altogether. There was no trial so no verdict.
It isn't a opinion, it is a car crash of a post.For my opinion?
I'm curious about what this endtails
We all heard what was originally online, so, what possibly could have recontextualised that into a more complete picture?
They actually have, very specifically.
Greenwood is able to defend himself in public.Unable to defend himself in public.
Victim blaming. I’m impressed. How you can look away from those records and think its ok is beyond me.
No but they definitely drop cases where the only witness for the prosecution will go into it saying the thing you're trying to prove happened didn't happen.As I said, I haven't seen anything like al the evidence, so I can't and won't. and neither have you. I can tell you, however, that the CPS don't drop charges for fun
Luckhurst with another truth bomb
Oh well, I'm sure now the club have finally fecking made a decision that'll be the end of it, and we won't have some prat popping up in the match day thread at the weekend bemoaning the lack of the great martyred Mason.
No they've said he's innocent of what he was charged with.
That's not the same as no abuse.
That’s just speculation.He’s not guilty of what he was charged with.
They could think he’s guilty of other offences.
read all the statement - they have seen some things which aren't in the public domain. plus the CPS said new material had come to light - again, which we haven't seen but maybe the club hasWhy is then the club saying this? Wouldn't the statement be much easier without it? They're basically siding with Greenwood. "Based on the evidence available to us, we have concluded that the material posted online did not provide a full picture and that Mason did not commit the offences in respect of which he was originally charged".
They're saying he's gone because the public made up their minds about him.
I don't understand this. Then again it's United, we're a shit show of a club.
Hmmm I agree.If Wumminator was juror 8 in the "12 angry men", it would've been a 5min short with a quick death sentence.
Wumminator would be tying the noose on the doorstep of the courthouse at this rate. Judge Judy AND executioner all in one...If Wumminator was juror 8 in the "12 angry men", it would've been a 5min short with a quick death sentence.
but they mentioned both thgings - why would they do that if it was only the victim withdrawing her statement?
If Wumminator was juror 8 in the "12 angry men", it would've been a 5min short with a quick death sentence.
Sorry, I misspoke:He wasn't. The charges were dropped. Different thing altogether. There was no trial so no verdict.
Same fans moaning about funds for transfer don’t understand how hard it is to allow a 100m asset leave for free.
it’s the correct decision ultimately, but not as black and white. We all know if he was talentless and worth nothing this would have been done the day after the recordings leaked.
It’s utterly bizarreI just don’t get how the statement can amount to „we know he’s innocent but we won’t tell anyone why and we’re still getting rid just because.“
Who in their right mind sanctions a press release like that? This is sheer madness.
The club is a shambles - absolute shit show at every level. Terrible decision IMO, we should be working with the player to rehabilitate him and reintegrate into society. Instead we have decided to Vilify him and declare him damaged goods regardless of the statement UTD put out. Really poor by UTD. Well at least Rachel Riley is still part of the club, cant wait for her to have some sort of marital crisis - do we brand her the same way??
But they said both things were the reason for the decision. Why would they do that if it was only the witness refusing to testify?No but they definitely drop cases where the only witness for the prosecution will go into it saying the thing you're trying to prove happened didn't happen.
He’s not guilty of what he was charged with.
They could think he’s guilty of other offences.
He’s not guilty of what he was charged with.
They could think he’s guilty of other offences.
Nah, they won’t ban @Wumminator dont get excited.Some of the comments here. I hope these people are banned.
That's my point - but it was enough for the CPS to mention it so it must have a bearingYou don't know what the new material is, could be a different statement etc. No body is going to know what that is.