Saw this tweet are re watching The Cranes Are Flying.
Film Martin Scorsese - Marvel movies are 'not cinema'
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Saw this tweet are re watching The Cranes Are Flying.
What is an IP movie?
I could be wrong but I think an IP movie is based off already existing property like marvel comic books or the lord of the rings books. Where as a non IP movie is in theory something new although Free Guy is just one reference after another until the end credits..
Gotcha. Thank you! I’d never seen that term before.
No idea what that's about but I do think anyone over 18 wanting to watch it should be put into an asylum.
I'm struggling to think of any counter examples. Lots of horror movies but they were all pretty low budget affairs. Christopher Nolan has a few but he established himself on Batman
There would have been loads of movies released in cinemas this year that were original concepts. Obviously the general point is fair - cinema releases are heavily skewed towards existing IP's but it's not going to be the end of original concept releases anytime soon.
I think the next step for Marvel is to get into the smart glasses business, so you can have a different Marvel movie or TV show beamed into your eyes 24/7 while you sit and waste away in your chair.
O m g Martin scorsese and Denis Villeneuve and also Warner brothers have pulled a goal back, but will it be enough, with Disney up 12-1 and infinite minutes to go???
Maybe it’ll make more sense within the context of the film, but that’s so weird
Christ. If you're gonna make a Hiroshima joke(?), then you better make it a least a little funny(in a dark way). Which is easier said than done...
Not a big Family Guy fan(for from it etc), but this sort of works:
They're really milking the Toy Story franchise...
I checked the list of Pixar films and surprisingly only 11 out of 24 films are stand-alones(i.e. no sequel yet). I wonder if they'll ever try to cash in further on films like Wall-E, Up and Ratatouille, even though they absolutely do not need a sequel
There's a full sex scene between Buzz and Bo Peep and here's the twist, they show all of it. Full penetration.Is that a gritty spinoff of Toy Story
@Shane88 yeah I've seen that video before. One of my faves.
Is that a gritty spinoff of Toy Story
I remember when this guy was seen as a weirdo creep.They're really milking the Toy Story franchise...
I checked the list of Pixar films and surprisingly only 11 out of 24 films are stand-alones(i.e. no sequel yet). I wonder if they'll ever try to cash in further on films like Wall-E, Up and Ratatouille, even though they absolutely do not need a sequel
That's even weirder. I could understand if it was, say, a drama based on what Buzz Lightyear believes happened to him to make him so great. It'd be fitting for his character at least.
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Makes more sense but also definitely milking it.
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Yeah this seems to be pretty standard now, you take some detail that only a handful of people cared about in the 90's and expand it into a new product hoping that it will sell on pure nostalgia.
We basically live in a world where these people won.
I'm sure it's something about comfort zones but I'm not smart enough to formulate the point.
James Gunn is great. I wish more directors were like him and just called out the nonsense people post.
It's been a while since I've read it but Mark Fisher capitalist realism was a really good book on this subject.
Maybe I'm reading it wrong but doesn't Gunn undermine his first point(Marvel scripts aren't approved by the military) in his second tweet(Specific scripts have to get military approval to make sure the military isn't disparaged) ?
I know for one of the marvel films they literally ran air force advert along aside the film.
Slither and GOTG are pretty good.
Slither? Super? Yes he's making comic book movies atm but he's made some good indie films before that. Also gets props for the scooby doo script and how much risqué stuff he squeezed in.
Anyways, I was more commenting on his twitter responses than his movies, probably not the thread to big up comic book movies..
Ah yes, I've read it. Flicking through, the topic looks to be most relevant for the chapter 'Dreamwork and Memory Disorder'. There's a part specifically about the rapid rate of change and how it pushes us backwards (assuming that's because we understand it better). I think I'll have a proper re-read sometime.
3:50 - ''I bet that this is a gritty reboot in the(Toy Story)universe''.
Yeah I'll have to do the same at some point.
Read his second tweet properly. Military only gets to vet scripts if they use the military assets for free aka James Gunn didn't get freebies.
In his first tweet Gunn is questioning how people come up with the idea that Marvel films have to be approve by the military, then in the second tweet he said well yeah we need military approval if we use any of the US military gear for free(Which tbh should kind of concern people).
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It's always fun when these type of pre-reviews come out and then when the real ones are out, they're much worse.
You keep leaving out the most important part which is for free. He's basically saying Marvel paid to use those assets unlike other movie studios.