I'd say im less critical of Marvel. They do feel like something else, something quite cynical in a thousand ways. I enjoyed their comics as a kid and I'm probably easy enough to sell on cheap sentimentality and pretty explosions. Their probably closer to comfort food than Cinema so maybe i agree with you.Very true. It started as me disagreeing and then I noticed similarities between what me and @caid were saying. Just different angles as you say
Somebody else can have the master's thesis as I need to go to sleep.
Film Martin Scorsese - Marvel movies are 'not cinema'
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They pumped Kumail with so many steroids that he ended looking like big head Ken Griffey Jr and yet he still has to wear a awful suit and can't talk.
Tbh this is why they make Marvel movies.
This is what the director last film looked like
At this point I'm not even sure why Marvel even hire directors.
Getting Chloe Zhao to direct this film after making The Rider and Nomadland is depressing.
Marvel movies are inherently evil.
Marvel movies are inherently evil.
I haven't seen it yet as my local multiplex cinema is useless(The sound is awful and they tend to leave the lights on for the whole film). The reviews seem to be alright though.
What the hell?
Do they also put tall dummies with afros on the seat in front of you if it's available?
I remember watching Blade Runner 2049 where both the sound was broken to the point where every 10 minutes the dialogue would cut out and the lights were on full blast for the 2+ hours.What the hell?
Do they also put tall dummies with afros on the seat in front of you if it's available?
There is some fantastic material in the comics for Eternals that would probably be perfect to drop straight into the current cm universe as is.
This looks like it's going to be dreadful though.
This looks like it's going to be dreadful though.
The 2 genres of film, superhero comedy and superhero brutality
Cringe and hilariously out of touch.
Also I hate this new trend in big budget films of making everything as dark as possible so you can't tell what is happening.
It's dark so they can half-arse the CGI so you can't tell how wank it is.
Also, what the feck is with that "Watch out!" part. Why doesn't her face move?!
I feel this thread has just become an echo chamber where people who don't like superhero laugh at anything they see. Maybe rename it to 'let's all laugh at superhero movies'.
Fun at what parties? Should I be worried if I'm not invited to any?
Fun at what parties? Should I be worried if I'm not invited to any?
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Yep good point. CGI seems to have been at the same level since Avatar.
Always has been
Meh, I enjoy it. It's not all homeruns, but there's definitely some funny/cringy stuff getting posted. Credit to @Sweet Square for that
I don't really mind, it's just a bit lame compared to some of the discussion that has been had. And anyway, those posts did help me find out about Free Guy! (Thanks again @berbatrick - and I'll stop bringing that up now, cause it probably isn't as funny as I think it is.Meh, I enjoy it. It's not all homeruns, but there's definitely some funny/cringy stuff getting posted. Credit to @Sweet Square for that
)''A man who,beyond the age of 26, finds himself watching a marvel film can count himself as a failure.''
I don't really mind, it's just a bit lame compared to some of the discussion that has been had. And anyway, those posts did help me find out about Free Guy! (Thanks again @berbatrick - and I'll stop bringing that up now, cause it probably isn't as funny as I think it is.
as penance for helping kill cinema i will go watch dune a lot
The lasers will go pew, the baddies will go smash and the heroes will do a Marvel zinger™ every 90 seconds.
It's junk food, visual pizza and that's fine.
"Complex thoughts" Fecking spare me.
Superhero films are movies in the same way that dinner at The Fat Duck and McDonalds are both food. Occasionally you might feel like McDonalds but superhero films are like being force fed McDonalds 24/7.
Since watching The Avengers in 2012 I have avoided superhero films entirely and I only watched that because someone I knew in the 80's was the cinematographer.
What is depressing is that a great sci-fi film like Blade Runner 2049 hasn't broken even yet while superhero popcorn rakes in huge sums so keeps getting remade.
Edit: Not true - I watched the Guardians of The Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool films. In both cases the first film was worth watching but the second wasn't.
Since watching The Avengers in 2012 I have avoided superhero films entirely and I only watched that because someone I knew in the 80's was the cinematographer.
What is depressing is that a great sci-fi film like Blade Runner 2049 hasn't broken even yet while superhero popcorn rakes in huge sums so keeps getting remade.
Edit: Not true - I watched the Guardians of The Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool films. In both cases the first film was worth watching but the second wasn't.
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Big OLED are pulling the strings.
In all seriousness, OLED is a fecking gamechanger for dark scenes.
I was reading that John Carpenters The Thing bombed back in the 80's along with most of his other movies recently and was kind of shocked. I think sci fi films (along with a lot of other genres) never do well commercially. Dont think the original Blade Runner did well initially either did it?
Maybe its certain kinds of sci fi films? Interstellar had a good take i think? I can imagine that Bruce Willis / Aerosmith shite that got released in the 00's doing well.
Interstellar was terrible so it makes sense that it did well I guess.
The Thing and the original Blade Runner were two of my favourite films of the 80's and luck enough to see both in first release in the cinema.
I can’t imagine what it was like seeing The Thing in cinema. What an incredible movie. I fast forward through the kennel scene though, I can’t stomach it
I can’t imagine what it was like seeing The Thing in cinema. What an incredible movie. I fast forward through the kennel scene though, I can’t stomach it
Great movie. Funnily enough it is also one of my son's favourites.
Kurt Russell has been in some crap but he’s also played the greatest protagonist ever in my opinion.
He was great in that. It is one of my son's favourite films as well funnily enough. I remember getting in trouble with my wife when I let him watch that when probably a bit too young.
Apparently the toy money for Marvel and such dwarfs the film money. So even if they lose money they win.
I didn't want to post it in here as some might see it as bullying but this guy also put out an article about how as a grown adult he was too fat to sit on the rides at some Harry Potter theme park.
Cheers. Makes a bit more sense now.
In general, yes. As it happened, "Genre film" (including sci-fi)* was never intended to make serious money. They were made kind of 'in the tradition of cheap entertainment for the vulgar' with an attitude of "If you produce one that manages to break out of its niche a little bit ('breakout hit', and later on, 'crossover appeal'), then terrific, but if not, no big deal." And they were made to cater to what was seen as a built-in audience for each and one never really thought about expanding beyond said niche. But those markets started to sloooowly but very steadily dwindle from around the early 70s on.
So later on, you got more and more experiments in combining them (action + sci-fi + disaster = Bruce Willis Aerosmith), bigger budgets so they 'looked better'/'appealed more to women' (Alien), etc.
*depending on whom you ask: sci-fi, romcoms, horror, mystery, musicals, and believe it or not, action.
EDIT: The Thing was one of those 'bigger budget' experiments as well, probably given that money in the wake of Alien's success.
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They showed it at the BFI Southbank a few years ago, around Halloween time. That soundtrack on the big screen...I can’t imagine what it was like seeing The Thing in cinema. What an incredible movie. I fast forward through the kennel scene though, I can’t stomach it