RvP - Great
Rooney - Lost
Kagawa - Not Match fit. Can't make the team
Nani - Same as above
Valencia - Can't attack for some reason
Zaha - Young. Will only play a bit part role this season imo
Young - Is Young.
Marouane Fellaini
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Rooney - Lost
Kagawa - Not Match fit. Can't make the team
Nani - Same as above
Valencia - Can't attack for some reason
Zaha - Young. Will only play a bit part role this season imo
Young - Is Young.
RvP
Kagawa Rooney Valencia/Nani
Fellaini Carrick
This can be our setup in crucial games. This will be pretty much similar to City's, where on one wing they have proper winger in Navas and on other they use the one who drifts in i.e. Silva. Aguero and Dzeko/Negredo complete the front 4 and Fernandinho and Yaya sit behind these 4.
For matches where we need to pack midfield, we can have a trio of Fellaini-Carrick-Cleverley with Rooney playing on left.
Fellaini will undoubtedly give us an additional option and add the much needed steel. We need to forget/stop moaning about fee/other failed transfers now and get behind this guy.
Kagawa Rooney Valencia/Nani
Fellaini Carrick
This can be our setup in crucial games. This will be pretty much similar to City's, where on one wing they have proper winger in Navas and on other they use the one who drifts in i.e. Silva. Aguero and Dzeko/Negredo complete the front 4 and Fernandinho and Yaya sit behind these 4.
For matches where we need to pack midfield, we can have a trio of Fellaini-Carrick-Cleverley with Rooney playing on left.
Fellaini will undoubtedly give us an additional option and add the much needed steel. We need to forget/stop moaning about fee/other failed transfers now and get behind this guy.
Why do we have two Fellaini threads in the Manchester United forum?
It's not always about something special. Were at times a team obsessed with players doing special things rather than the unit outplaying them with quality football. You say we have enough talent but how creative have our wide players looked in recent times? Someone like Herrera or fabregas was needed so the quality of possession through the middle and our ability to hold the ball in tight spaces was improved.
Seriously, all you see missing in our midwifed is it's ability to protect the back 4 on the counter???
RVP - no comment needed.
Rooney - isn't lost, the transfer window is closed, he'll play out of his skin now.
Kagawa- isn't always going to be not match fit. With two defensive midfielders in there now, he can roam around as much as he wants without any consequence.
Nani - Will rediscover his form, just needs to stay away from bad injuries.
Valencia - Played well against Chelsea, good signs.
Zaha - Can be our explosive winger this season, certainly has the ability.
Young-
at the case you make for youngWell, yes. Scoring goals was never a problem for us. How many times have we been done on the counter at Chelsea, City, and other clubs because we pushed too many men forward and had only Carrick as a deep midfielder? I even remember Steve_J posting a formation in a Liverpool match thread with the back four, lots of empty space, then our midfielders.
We've been crying out for a deep lying midfielder for some time now, that's all I see missing in our midfielder. We've always relied on wingers for creativity, always have, always will. There's extra competition this year with the new kid trying to prove himself.
He said "is Young" as in "is useless", I say otherwise. All I can see from your side is smilies and senseless posts, so here's the obligatory
Well he could replace Carrick, if we play a 4-3-2-1 combo.
------------DDG-----------
Rafael -- Rio -- Vidic -- Evra
Valencia --Fellaini ----- Nani
-----Rooney ---- kagawa ---
------------ RvP -----------
Blimey !!!
------------DDG-----------
Rafael -- Rio -- Vidic -- Evra
Valencia --Fellaini ----- Nani
-----Rooney ---- kagawa ---
------------ RvP -----------
Blimey !!!
That's basically the same problem we have now, switch Carrick in for Fellaini and it's the usual we're getting overrun in midfield, I don't think him or Carrick will be playing alone in the middle.
You're completely deluded then.
Fellaini, Carrick, Cleverley, Anderson
Arteta, Wilshere, Ramsey, rosciky
Gustavo, swieinstiger, thiago, Martinez, Goetze
Busquets, xavi, iniesta, fabregas
Do you not see a difference in quality on the ball between the first and the rest?
Always relied on our wingers, yes? But when we had Keane and scholes in the middle the quality in the centre was brilliant. Less so, but it was still great when we had scholes and Carrick there in 06-07. I hope the club doesn't think the way you do in not giving a shit about the quality in the middle. And well they don't given they tried to get fabregas and Herrera.
I think Fellaini has more of a presence than Carrick. Coupled with the workrate of Rooney+Kagawa in front of him, I don't think we will get overrun in the midfield. Nani & Kagawa overlap and interchange poistions as both can play wide and cut in. When was the last time we played them two together?
No offence man, but I wouldn't have "Clevz" in the first team. I'd have Carrick & Fellaini in a MF of 2 & Kagawa in for a MF of 3. Tom's a decent wee player but he's goin backwards not only his play, but his progression as a whole & he cant shoot for shit either.
His game is pretty basic & he's been a world away from that 2nd half performance of the Community Shield a couple of seasons ago against City. After that, he got injured & has never been the same player. Now he's just safe & seems afraid to score & chokes when in a position to do so. Hate being harsh on the lad, but we're dying out for goals from mid-field & Toms not the answer unfortunately. Maybe that'll come if the old Tom returns before the injury. We cant rely on RVP again this year, but maybe this could be Rooney's season to be top-dog again or both of them being top-dogs more importantly?!
I miss the "deluded, stupid, idiotic" comments from the football forum arguments, sigh.
Anyways, add Cazorla in the Arsenal midfield, cause based on what you have written, our's is stronger than theirs. Arteta isn't all that, Wilshere is always injured, Ramsey is most of the time out of form and Rosciky is very frustrating and inconsistent.
I don't care about the Bayern and Barca midfield. You're basically comparing a team which focuses on wingers to teams which focus on central midfield play, of course their midfield will be stronger. Also, I think Moyes will concentrate on the league in his first season, no way he's going to make a significant push to the CL in his first season, he's still getting to know the team and needs some experience in Europe. For the league, I'm very happy with that midfield.
Rodwell, Fernandinho, Toure, Garcia
Essien, Ramires, Lampard, Mikel, Bruyne, Ginkel, Willian
Compare our midfield to these teams. Can you honestly say our central midfield players aren't better than Rodwell, Fernandinho, and Garcia? Toure is great and probably equal to our best midfielder.
Similarly, Essien is past it, Ramires is a good defensive midfielder (although sometimes a liability), Lampard is Lampard, Mikel is an average squad player, and I don't know about the three new signings because I haven't seen them play enough.
Before, most on here used to say we can't hold a candle next to the midfields of these teams, I think we're on equal ground as of the Fellaini signing.
Good for you. Let's sell Cleverley then, I guess? I mean there is no point really having faith in a player who is so obviously going backwards. We're a bunch of mercenary signing cnuts who just give up on developing a young players game and all. Sounds like a good idea.
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One second, if the likes of barca, real and bayern focus so much on midfields, are we actually better than them in wide areas? Real have bale, ronaldo and Di Maria (no contest), bayern have robben, ribery, shaqiri, muller and possibly Goetzem(again no contest), and barca have Neymar, iniesta or fabregas, Sanchez, Pedro, tello.
As far as domestic sides are concerned, I'm not sure Chelsea even counts as a title challenger given how far back they finished last season. With regards to city, it depends on how good fernandhinio is. But they anyway seem to make up for it by having playmakers all over the pitch so not having a great midfield (apart from Toure) doesn't seem to affect them as badly. Also, this argument that because our rivals are messing up we should too is something I disagree with,
Anyway this isn't the thread for this so I'm not derailing it further.
As far as domestic sides are concerned, I'm not sure Chelsea even counts as a title challenger given how far back they finished last season. With regards to city, it depends on how good fernandhinio is. But they anyway seem to make up for it by having playmakers all over the pitch so not having a great midfield (apart from Toure) doesn't seem to affect them as badly. Also, this argument that because our rivals are messing up we should too is something I disagree with,
Anyway this isn't the thread for this so I'm not derailing it further.
Do you have a toilet brush on your head too?
Glad he's here and will support him. At the start of summer, I thought Thiago and Fellaini - in addition to keeping Rooney and Nani - would be a cracking summer. That ship sank, but then it was hopefully going to be Herrera and Fellaini (I never believed Fabregas was ever a possibility, especially not for the ridiculous bids we put in).
Still, he's a good player, and underrated, in my opinion. Seems to get written off as some clogger target man who is only good for lumping the ball up to, which I think is unfair. He will finally give us some physicality in midfield which we have lacked for a long time, but he's more than just a brute. His touch, passing and goal threat are all very good, and he's constantly improving. Everytime we have played Everton, he has been so difficult to play against, and he as often bulldozed through us, and alot of other teams. We even had Phil Jones man mark him for a whole game recently. How often do we give a player that sort of treatment? The only other time I can think of is Ronaldo when we played Madrid. Obviously I'm not saying he's as good as Ronaldo!! But it shows just how effective he is that we employed such a tactic to stop him from getting into the game.
Good player. Iffy fee. He's immediately become our 2nd best midfielder though, so it is an improvement. Let's just hope he doesn't get injured, eh?
Still, he's a good player, and underrated, in my opinion. Seems to get written off as some clogger target man who is only good for lumping the ball up to, which I think is unfair. He will finally give us some physicality in midfield which we have lacked for a long time, but he's more than just a brute. His touch, passing and goal threat are all very good, and he's constantly improving. Everytime we have played Everton, he has been so difficult to play against, and he as often bulldozed through us, and alot of other teams. We even had Phil Jones man mark him for a whole game recently. How often do we give a player that sort of treatment? The only other time I can think of is Ronaldo when we played Madrid. Obviously I'm not saying he's as good as Ronaldo!! But it shows just how effective he is that we employed such a tactic to stop him from getting into the game.
Good player. Iffy fee. He's immediately become our 2nd best midfielder though, so it is an improvement. Let's just hope he doesn't get injured, eh?
Number 7 shirt anyone!! 
Happy with the signing (bullshit around the fee aside).
He's a very good player who'll give us numerous options. He can cover Carrick, partner him, give us some much missed aggression in the middle, provides a genuine goal threat and will be an asset defending set pieces.
Once the dust settles and everyone see's him playing in the shirt we'll realise we've got a cracking player.
He's a very good player who'll give us numerous options. He can cover Carrick, partner him, give us some much missed aggression in the middle, provides a genuine goal threat and will be an asset defending set pieces.
Once the dust settles and everyone see's him playing in the shirt we'll realise we've got a cracking player.
I am shocked by the fee, but very confident he will be a scintillating success. Dazzling buy, if it was true he was chosen ahead of Herrera... I feel sorry for the Spaniard, but still in delight.
EDIT: we did not need two midfielders right away. Maybe next summer, when Carrick will be 33.
For now, we need to focus on playing our top signing who we've bought just last season (Kagawa) and let him plus RVP, Nani, Rooney do their thing with Fellaini and Carrick bossing what happens in front of defence.
We can still field the fourth best first team in world football.
EDIT: we did not need two midfielders right away. Maybe next summer, when Carrick will be 33.
For now, we need to focus on playing our top signing who we've bought just last season (Kagawa) and let him plus RVP, Nani, Rooney do their thing with Fellaini and Carrick bossing what happens in front of defence.
We can still field the fourth best first team in world football.
On paper he is the player we need, but let's see if actually has enough quality. At the least he'll be an improvement on Cleverley I guess.
He'll surprise people going forward. Very interested to see how he does. Hope he's instantly first choixe
I'm looking forward to him and Carrick together.
Oh god, I woke up to Moyes talking about how he can play in the hole.
Welcome to United Fellaini.
Really pleased we signed him, should've signed him as soon as we could as it was obvious we were going to, looks a little like last choice this way instead as adding to the squad. Unfortunate for the lad, but he will hopefully prove to be what we've needed since Keane left.
Just hope we now have the balls to free the rest of the team up to go fecking postal on this league!!
Really pleased we signed him, should've signed him as soon as we could as it was obvious we were going to, looks a little like last choice this way instead as adding to the squad. Unfortunate for the lad, but he will hopefully prove to be what we've needed since Keane left.
Just hope we now have the balls to free the rest of the team up to go fecking postal on this league!!
He's a fecking liability in Europe as he'll be sent off as soon as he gets on the pitch. European refs are going to take one look at this use of his elbows and give him a straight red. Willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and wish him well now that he's a United player, but he's not going to solve anything, and may actually give us more problems.
Dream on. They'll be everywhere.
Seems to do alright for Belgium.
oh cheer up ya miserable gimp
Looking forward seeing the pube-permed lanky twat playing for us!
Happy with this signing. However, if he and Carrick play together, we really need to start playing Kagawa in the hole or at least off the left. We need some creativity.
I'm pissed off with the way it was done, but more than happy about the signing. All other options short of Fabregas were a relative gamble, giving us somebody who might be a better version of what we have. Fellaini definitely gives us something we've been missing.
We've said for ages we need steel in midfield, and other than Yaya I can't think of anybody in the Premier League who fits that decrypting better.
I admit to not having seen much of Herrera but I'm sceptical that a lot were jumping on the bandwagon because it seemed cool to back the technical guy from Spain. The money was way too much for a 24 year old who's not even around his national team. I don't remember seeing him feature in"who should we buy?" Threads before yesterday!
We've said for ages we need steel in midfield, and other than Yaya I can't think of anybody in the Premier League who fits that decrypting better.
I admit to not having seen much of Herrera but I'm sceptical that a lot were jumping on the bandwagon because it seemed cool to back the technical guy from Spain. The money was way too much for a 24 year old who's not even around his national team. I don't remember seeing him feature in"who should we buy?" Threads before yesterday!
Again, it's not so much on missing out on Herrera as it's about the way we missed out, and our conduct in general. Herrera deal was the tipping point. Paying more than Fellaini's original release clause didn't help either.
Anyhow, Fellaini will be shutting up quite a few people here. We won't have other teams running through the middle again with a midfield of Carrick and Fellaini.
Probably this. We should have just got him in July and Moyes should have told the fans that that's all we were going to get, no pissing around.
I hope he's not but his exorbitant fee pretty much guarantees it.
glad we have him, hope he is nowhere near starting XI if Carrick is fit and ready to play.
Will allow us to play Kagawa.
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