I would presume it's probably Matic's responsibility, but he got dragged way out wide in that situation. Not sure if that was a mistake from him or whether he did the right thing and whoever was supposed to cover for him (Pogba?) didn't do so.This begs the question then, who is covering the actual DM danger positions around the edge of the box where the goal came from today?
If we are to say that when we dont have the ball Fellaini is playing as an extra CB, then I guess its not his responsibility. So who's is it? Is it then Matic's responsibility again?
Usually thats clearly the DM's area. But if he's not playing DM when we dont have the ball, who is playing it?
There are many positions bar GK where we can have better players. But getting rid of Fellaini shouldn’t be a priority.He wasnt that good. Compare his role in the team to how fernandinho plays and its night and day. So many loose balls and he cant pass a ball more than 10 yards.
I get what he does for the team but we really should be having better.
I talked about his performance, it was good for a player with his attributes, he played to his best for sure, but it does always goes back to a top club looking to a player like this for results, it's just not going to be a good thing in the long run.
He played very well today, credit to him.
But he will struggle a lot against teams that press him. He's not a natural DM, he's not comfortable with the ball at all in that position.
He's better than Pereira though for us because he also gives us a lot of options in attack, which is where he's the most useful for me. Weird player Fellaini, a target man striker masquerading as a DM.
I would presume it's probably Matic's responsibility, but he got dragged way out wide in that situation. Not sure if that was a mistake from him or whether he did the right thing and whoever was supposed to cover for him (Pogba?) didn't do so.
Fellaini will get into most top teams in the world as a squad player. I think he is massively underrated because he is not a flair player.
He played very well today, credit to him.
But he will struggle a lot against teams that press him. He's not a natural DM, he's not comfortable with the ball at all in that position.
He's better than Pereira though for us because he also gives us a lot of options in attack, which is where he's the most useful for me.
Weird player Fellaini, a target man striker masquerading as a DM.
To be fair, Moyes did try to use him in that role but he failed miserably. His positioning was shocking and he looked totally out of place. He seems to be a completely different player in the same role now.
IIRC Mourinho put him straight in as the holding midfielder when he came in. Within a few games it was changed around.
I still feel like we'll pay for this when he gets in a position to make challenges inside our own box. But for now its working
He is exactly the type of player we need against Liverpool.. to bypass their press. thats what we have been doing last few seasonsHe is the go to guy for games like Burnley, Watford. When there's lots of long balls, crosses etc. Been excellent, and I'm not his biggest fan, but he gives you something different. Had great world cup. Can't see him playing against teams who move ball quick not in the air. But a brilliant sub to bring on in games of that nature if we need a goal, or protecting a lead.
Was he not a key component when we beat both City and Liverpool in the past?He is the go to guy for games like Burnley, Watford. When there's lots of long balls, crosses etc. Been excellent, and I'm not his biggest fan, but he gives you something different. Had great world cup. Can't see him playing against teams who move ball quick not in the air. But a brilliant sub to bring on in games of that nature if we need a goal, or protecting a lead.
Or Chelsea, or Arsenal, or Madrid. I actually prefer him in the big games than vs minnows. At least in previous years.Was he not a key component when we beat both City and Liverpool in the past?
IIRC Mourinho put him straight in as the holding midfielder when he came in. Within a few games it was changed around.
I still feel like we'll pay for this when he gets in a position to make challenges inside our own box. But for now its working
Jose > Footballing Einsteins.
I think he will start as a "false CB" - that is a perfect description of him btw. Fred and Pgba can play ahead of him. Like Lukaku he gets derided for his lack of technique but in the modern games it takes all sorts. He can cause mayhem in the opposition box and can shut games down when he comes on as sub. He wouldn't be in my first choice 11 when we want to go on the front foot but he is a valuable squad member. He's taken some awful stick in the past but has come thru it. Good luck to the big man.Do we reckon he'll be starting in Matic's spot against Wolves? I feel we'll play without Fellaini in the "false CB" role at home and have him as a more traditional DM role, maybe bring Fred in and play with Pogba and Fred ahead of Fellaini.
Mourinho does seem to have found the perfect role for Fellaini, hopefully he can keep up this form because he was a real asset the last two games I always felt Fellaini's technique gets criticised too much, it's nowhere near as bad as people make out to be, personally I actually think it's fairly decent. My issues with him lie when he stops playing football and just goes around fouling everyone.I think he will start as a "false CB" - that is a perfect description of him btw. Fred and Pgba can play ahead of him. Like Lukaku he gets derided for his lack of technique but in the modern games it takes all sorts. He can cause mayhem in the opposition box and can shut games down when he comes on as sub. He wouldn't be in my first choice 11 when we want to go on the front foot but he is a valuable squad member. He's taken some awful stick in the past but has come thru it. Good luck to the big man.
Never forget the Everton game
He did and initially he played well there for 2-3 games, but his limitations in the position soon became apparent and he switched to Herrera as the DM.
But back then he was in a 2 man midfield though and Fellaini often struggles in a two. With Matic in there beside him this time around it negates some of his limitations and allows him to do a specific job of breaking up and helping out the defenders.
The guy clearly dived, and the ref was Oliver. How is that pen Fellaine’s fault?
Edit.
For comparison, turn to 2:30, same ref but the penalty wasn’t given. This was a clear penalty.